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tuxedoMask
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posted October 04, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkwSpW5klMQ

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Some members of the Anonymous hacktivist collective are disputing the legitimacy of a weekend threat by another apparent Anonymous faction to "erase" the New York Stock Exchange "from the Internet on Oct. 10 as part of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protest in New York City.

"On Oct. 10, NYSE shall be erased from the Internet. On Oct. 10, expect a day that will never, ever be forgotten," warned a video message posted on TheAnonMessage YouTube channel.

The AnonMessage channel has been used to post several Occupy Wall Street-related video messages since the protest against lax regulation of the financial sector and growing economic inequality began on Sept. 17. Those messages include an initial "official" Anonymous video regarding Occupy Wall Street and a warning sent last week to the New York Police Department that threatened retaliation if "the brutality does not stop" against Occupy Wall Street protestors.

But a separate Anonymous message published Tuesday claimed that the threat of an Oct. 10 attack on the NYSE was "a fake planted operation by law enforcement and cyber crime agencies."

The more recent message claimed that those behind a supposedly Anonymous-led operation called "Invade Wall Street"—apparently believed to have originated the NYSE video threat—were in fact an attempting to undermine the Occupy Wall Street protests, now in their third week.

The video threat against the NYSE included a call for Anonymous supporters to utilize the so-called Low Orbit Ion Cannon (LOIC) voluntary botnet tool to launch a Distributed Denial-of-Service attack against the NYSE's website on the target date.

The LOIC tool has been used to great effect by Anonymous hackers to take down websites in the past. But some prominent voices in the global hacktivist movement have called for it to be permanently retired because its reported deficiencies in masking its users' identities may have helped law enforcement around the world make a string of recent arrests of alleged Anonymous members involved in "Operation Payback" and other major DDoS attacks in the past year.

The idea that the Invade Wall Street operation was designed as a lure to identify Anonymous members and supporters appeared to have a good deal of support on Twitter and other social media outlets used by Occupy Wall Street supporters to communicate.

Whether or not that's the case—and PCMag is unable to confirm or disprove that theory—it remains true that the very nature of Anonymous makes it difficult to ever say with certainty that some faction or another is not a "legitimate" part of the "leaderless" global movement.

Technically, anyone who says they are part of Anonymous is in fact a part of Anonymous.

In August, media honed in what appeared to be an Anonymous-generated plan to take Facebook offline on Nov. 5—a date observed as Guy Fawkes Day in the U.K. Since members of Anonymous often wear Guy Fawkes masks to hide their identities at public protests, "Operation Facebook" appeared like it might be a legit, if difficult-to-accomplish plan by the collective.

But now it appears that Operation Facebook may simply have been an idea floated by some Anonymous members that just wasn't very appealing to the much wider group that would be needed to attempt it.

Similarly, Invade Wall Street and the plan to "erase" the NYSE may be "false flag" operations designed to discredit Occupy Wall Street protestors and perhaps trap would-be DDoSers, but it seems just as likely that they are the efforts of a faction of Anonymous that is tactically at odds with another faction. Or perhaps those disputing the legitimacy of the NYSE attack are the plants—circles within circles, anybody?

Here's the full text of the message disputing the legitimacy of the NYSE attack and the Invade Wall Street operation:

Citizens of the world,

We are Anonymous! Recently something very disturbing has come to our attention. You must take all notices and information claiming to be 'Anonymous' with a grain of salt. Consider EVERYTHING.

Operation Invade Wall Street is bulls***! It is a fake planted operation by law enforcement and cyber crime agencies in order to get you to undermine the Occupy Wall Street movement. It proposes you use depreciated tools that have known flaws such as LOIC.

Anonymous would never tell you to use LOIC—not after the arrests and failures of Operation Payback.

Anonymous wouldn't attack NYSE on a HOLIDAY—it is debatable if Anonymous would ever even attack NYSE.

Be wary friends!

We are Anonymous

We are Legion

We do not Forgive

We do not Forget

Expect Us

Be wary of imitations!



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tuxedoMask
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posted October 04, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VOC Moon -
by: Dr. Loretta J. Standley
http://www.drstandley.com/Void_of_Course_Calendar.shtml

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To better understand the 'Void', please read the following two paragraphs before scrolling down to see the calendars.
Believe me, it will make a lot more sense. Have fun!

In 11 years since publishing this website, I have had a handful of people call, which is less than 5 people and worthy of addressing because that's how I roll, who asked me why my Void of Course Moon Calendars have different times than other site(s) that post a Void of Course Moon Calendar. Recently I had one astrologer call to school me on my translation but yet he/she never bothered to entertain the calculation between the 27 degree and 3 degree movement. I don't understand how this movement cannot be considered when its clear that when we move from one house (residence) to another, we are in the midst of chaos. Many people are forgetting to simply observe astrology and then practice what they learn in the daily Life. No wonder astrology does not work for some people! A planet is 'in the void' when it is in the midst of moving from one sign into the next sign. It only makes sense! That calculated time 'should be' between 27 degrees of one sign and 3 degrees into the next sign. Other Void of Course Calendar's that you may see on the web state the Void is when the Moon makes no other aspects to other planets before it leaves its sign. It is a flat out ridiculous thought process to think that nothing is happening at any given time. I'm telling you folks, this calculation does not work in terms of the chaos and shake up movement as it does when it moves between 27 and 3 degrees. Not to mention THE MOON DICTATES OUR EMOTIONS! Now wonder we get all freaked out when changing from one thing to another . . that involves movement from one place to another. This particular astrologer who called pressed me to change my take on this in order to agree with others interpretations and I just won't do it because it simply does not work like it does when you use the 27 degree to 3 degree calculation. I'm sticking to my guns and that's final.

You know what I always say, "When it's the Truth, it shows up everywhere." So folks, make certain when you are studying your astrology that you can boldly and plainly see it. You will be able to see that this Void of Course Moon between 27 degrees and 3 degrees is OBVIOUS because when it's the Truth, it will show up everywhere.

Look at it this way . . . you know how you feel when you move from one house (residence) to another house (residence)? There is a lot of packing, moving about and just general chaos keeping track of all of your stuff in trucks as it's being shuffled from one house to another. Well the energy of a planet preparing to move feels the same chaotic way. Energy is shifting and it feels off balance and cranky to say the least. This is not the time to sign something new or make a new plan while you are in the midst of change. If you notice in the dark blue areas of each of my calendars I call your attention to the 27 to 3 degree time period. So the degrees involved are 27, 28, 29, 00, 01, 02 and up until the start of 03 degrees. I calculate the start of the void at 27 degrees 00 minutes up until 02 degrees 59 minutes 59 seconds . . . once the next second ticks away and the 3 degree mark is reached, then it is out of the void and the planet has settled into the next sign. Now compare this to how you feel when you move from one house (residence) to another and need to get settled. I have checked some of the other Void of Course Moon Calendars out there on the web and I can tell you based on the time zone they have listed, it doesn't make sense and the Moon is 'still' making aspects to other planets. Go figure.


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amowls**
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posted October 04, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God f*ck Anonymous and their self important BS. I am an occupy wall street supporter (I'm going to occupy my city in 2 weeks) but I wish Anonymous would not be associated with it at all. It makes us look bad.

That said, without even looking at the horary, it is doubtful they'll be able to successfully take down the NYSE.

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amelia28
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posted October 04, 2011 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am part of we are change, I am a ron paul supported, alex jones supported, adam kokesh supported and I also like anonymous. I think anonymous though just like occupy wallstreet opt is getting really big and people who don't understand the origin of the movement, which is to raise awareness that the federal reserve needs to be put to an end among other things (federal reserve is a private bank that keeps printing money and inflating the dollar and nothing about the federal reserve is federal not to mention its existence is completely unconstitutional), are starting to get involve making the movement look bad.

The tea party movement got started by 911 truth movement and then got infiltrated by mainstream republicans which are not real republicans so is the occupy wallstreet opt also starting to get infiltrated and Alex Jones is trying to redirect this movement to focus on raising awareness about the federal reserve which is the root of the problem of the economy collapse in this country.

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posted October 04, 2011 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sitting up here in quiet Canada, but from what I know about all dis, I doubt the NYSE will be taken down...it just seems like a bit too much to do in like, one movement or whatever. I dunno. Maybe I should stay outta this...nawt my country, yo'.

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amelia28
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posted October 04, 2011 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem is that people are protesting for economic inequality without really understanding the root of economic inequality. This ignorance results in these people who are protesting without really understanding coming up with solutions to fix the economic inequality that are not good or and will not work.

A movement has started without people really been educated enough and a bunch of protesters protesting thinking they know without knowing is dangerous. The next thing you know protest will turn into violence which will give the government an excuse to call martial law..... the end result and objective been for the poor to kill each other! www.infowars.com

If we have a chance of beating this we need to stop getting our news from mainstream media and get our news from independent sources or through underground networking. Mainstream media is basically owned by a guy name rupert murdoch. Basically the news that we receive is biased and is a monopoly.

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posted October 04, 2011 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I've been taught to never bring two things up in public or over dinner and those two things are religion and politics.

EDIT! This was not directed at anyone - just sayin'.

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amelia28
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posted October 04, 2011 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Also, I've been taught to never bring two things up in public or over dinner and those two things are religion and politics.

Oh so we shouldn't talk about it and just let the masses stay sleep! LOL. Well I am an activist and believe in freedom of speech. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you but I will fight for everyone's right to express themselves.

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posted October 04, 2011 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Oh so we shouldn't talk about it and just let the masses stay sleep! LOL. Well I am an activist and believe in freedom of speech. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you but I will fight for everyone's right to express themselves.

I didn't say that, D:

It's nawt that I'm try'na stifle you er anything, but there's a time and place fer everything. Now, Tuxy-baby brought up a question 'bout astrology. I do suppose this could count a time to bring up your fight for freedom, as it IS related.

Relating this back to astrology, it could be my Libra Asc./Mercury that wants to avoid conflict, as, by stating your opinion, which I do not oppose, someone is bound to have an opposing opinion.

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posted October 05, 2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I didn't say that, D:

It's nawt that I'm try'na stifle you er anything, but there's a time and place fer everything. Now, Tuxy-baby brought up a question 'bout astrology. I do suppose this could count a time to bring up your fight for freedom, as it IS related.

Relating this back to astrology, it could be my Libra Asc./Mercury that wants to avoid conflict, as, by stating your opinion, which I do not oppose, someone is bound to have an opposing opinion.


yeah i feel you! I would want for people to say how they feel without name calling or getting argumentative. We need to be able to discuss things that people feel different about peacefully as in the end we are all connected and are all here to grow .

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posted October 05, 2011 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope they pull it off, truth be told.

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posted October 05, 2011 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've been rather quiet around here. but i think that the movements of the 60's have got folks disillusioned about how social and political movements work and how they grow.

we are talking uranus in aries and pluto in capricorn here. this movement is one that WILL COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE SYSTEMS THAT ORGANIZE AND PROVIDE STRUCTURE IN OUR LIVES/WORLD.

how is that going to happen? you can't count on it being innovative, surprising and unexpected displays of heroism, pioneering and creativity. there may be aggression and violence but at the end of the day, the work will look completely different that it did 3 years ago, today or tomorrow.

we can argue and debate about the level of education and intelligence of the protesters but as far as i am concerned if you are not for them, you are against them. if you are not providing constructive criticism, new idea and or dialogue, then you are needlessly talking and adding to the vibration of things staying just the way they are...

my 2 cents.

and i am a college graudate that owes $20,000.00 to the american government in student loans, i have no benefits and no health insurance. i teach and have taught since i left college, but its just not the same. there is no american dream for us to fulfill. its time we create a new dream...

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