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Topic: Transiting Neptune square Sun-experiences
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polysigh
Knowflake Posts: 70
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posted October 06, 2011 03:31 PM
  
I know some one who has Neptune opposite the Sun, Mercury and Mars in their chart. This person is now at the tail end of a Neptune Square Sun transit. In the beginning of this transit this person met someone and is now planning to take the relationship to the next level. How strong would you perceive this relationship to be? Could there be a lot of deception, projection etc? And how would this transit effect someone who is highly Neptunian natally as opposed to someone who does not have a lot of Neptune aspects in their chart?IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted October 06, 2011 04:52 PM
It depends on the rest of the chart, they might have heavy nep but if they have aspects to pluto or uranus it'll help to balance things out. I had nep oppose my sun last year and I found it very difficult, was very unsure of who I was. I also had some seriously heavy saturn and pluto stuff going on though and I was made to face reality about a relationship I had been in for a few years. Natally - netune will let you wear the rose coloured glasses but they can be broken by aries honesty or uranian insight. It depends on the level of self honesty about the emotions. Neptune contacts to the sun can confuse the identity but it's moon/nep that'll help you lie to yourself. Saturn can also help to ground a person, the whole chart needs to be taken into account to assess the level of potential denial. One of the problems that generally occurs with relationships that start under neptune transits is that the rose coloured glasses come off and then they have to relate to one another differently. A "normal" person will handle this better but a strongly neptunian type will not be so tolerant. It may take a while for the bubble to burst but then if they are strongly nep they could always choose to start drinking or go on anti depressants to keep up the illusion and hold onto the relationship. There is always the possibility that they could be genuinely happy.... IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 09, 2011 07:25 PM
I'd say projection would be a strong element here, positive or negative, and also self-deception.
Neptune/Mercury could lead them to feeling that others don't believe them, Neptune to Mars/Sun just wants an escape so the transit square could have them falling into something as a relief from that feeling. It could take various directions.
I haven't had the transit Neptune square but I do have Pisces Sun and a few yrs ago it progressed to square my n.Neptune. Toward the end of that madness there was a definite feeling of 'how did i get here'. Sort of Alice in Wonderland-ish, all these things had been set into motion and I had basically blinded myself to them. Anything that Neptune does not want to see they can easily act as if it does not exist. Had the same sort of feeling when t.Neptune a few mos back was conj my Sun. When it comes back again I'm gonna have to hold onto the rails.IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 09, 2011 07:46 PM
Interesting, Lonake, what kind of rails do you mean?  I mean, HOW do you plan to prepare? I'm looking for ideas here...I'm currently going through a T Nept square my Sun/Merc/Neptune/MC stellium and... well... where do I begin. In one word: loss, disorientation, dis-illusion, confusion, frustration. Nothing works as it should. It takes all my patience, sanity, persistence to endure this. I have well-aspected Pluto and Uranus and I agree with dm above that this help balance things a bit. And unlike what they say about Neptunians (my N Nept conj my MC) I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. I'm not interested in such stuff (Uranus is my chart ruler hehe). Anyway, on your specific question; my hunch is the relationship acts as a bottle of wine for the person. It helps alleviate the pain. It will end with disillusion when the person gets out of the Nept square. In the meantime, s/he *needs* it. Like a drunk needs his alcohol. If that was a friend, I would feel compassion and just hold my mouth shut. They need to do what they do to prevent/lessen the pain/confusion/disorientation. I don't blame them one bit. Just expect the inevitable end and be ready to pick up the pieces. It won't be pretty. But it's necessary.
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Lonake
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posted October 09, 2011 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
I mean, HOW do you plan to prepare? I'm looking for ideas here...
I can't even believe what happened to me as I was really skeptical that anything Neptunian was going to occur since with me & transits, it has to be seen to be believed, I don't buy anything from a book or article until I see it for myself. I had this set image in my mind for what the relationship was going to be, I kept an eye on it at various checkpoints, making sure it was still measuring up, and all the time I was ignoring what he was telling me about himself because it just didn't register, it was like background noise, a non-event. I got out alive but barely and sank into a bit of a depression afterwards only because I was so mad at myself for only seeing what I wanted to. Picking myself back up again now. And when Neptune hits again early next yr I plan to at least entertain the possibility of extraneous bits of info that are flying at me. I will try lol. Not making any guarantees. I did not do any alcohol, any drugs, etc. and I know if I went that way the impact would likely be increased (!) I'm undergoing a Saturn Return, but apparently Neptune does not care and will infiltrate regardless. So we will see.... I was mainly expecting Saturn to stamp out Neptune but apparently it is no use. Digressing."Anyway, on your specific question; my hunch is the relationship acts as a bottle of wine for the person. It helps alleviate the pain. It will end with disillusion when the person gets out of the Nept square. In the meantime, s/he *needs* it. Like a drunk needs his alcohol."
---Sounds exactly like what I wrote above post, seeking a safe haven. I'm on that train too altho it is not by horribly damaging Neptunian pursuits. I couldn't do without my diversions at the moment. I wouldn't want to either. Honestly I still feel like I'm under Neptune, the after effects from the summer are lingering in a way that I did not expect. I didn't expect anything at all but the idea of the sea being impossible to contain sounds apt, as if a tsunami took place. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 09, 2011 09:01 PM
Goodness, you write so well, Lonake!
It's scary and yet it's life (well, "life after a Neptune hit" but "life" nonetheless).
I hope you get back in "order" soon.
Do you have any other biggies in your chart right now (you mentioned Sat return)? T Pluto is coming to a square to N Uranus in a couple of months here...IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 28, 2011 09:50 AM
I remember drawing and painting a lot. I was pretty much an agoraphobic. I know there were other things going on, but that was what i spent most of my time doing. Daydreaming, too - optimistic about the future. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 28, 2011 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Do you have any other biggies in your chart right now (you mentioned Sat return)? T Pluto is coming to a square to N Uranus in a couple of months here...
I think this is it for me,
--t.Saturn conj n.Saturn, exact
--t.Saturn conj n.Pluto (next month, it'll also conj the IC then too)
--t.Chiron conj n.Sun, in sign 1 deg off (I'm ready for this one to go away (!)
--t.Uranus conj p.Sun, exact
--t.Neptune conj n.Sun (3 deg off, out of sign right now, in sign in Feb 2012)
--sa.Neptune conj n.Venus/Moon, in sign 1 deg off
--t.Neptune conj sa.Moon, in sign 1 deg off
--t.Neptune conj p.Moon, in sign 2 deg off
(solar arc Moon is conj sec progressed Moon right now, 26 and 27 Aqua)So are you feeling anything re: the upcoming square?
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anongrl10
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posted October 28, 2011 05:05 PM
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So are you feeling anything re: the upcoming square?
Well, I'm still quite disoriented from Neptune (lol) and into thick fog.
T Pluto is in my 11th and N Uranus is in my 8th. Uranus is also the ruler of my chart and I suspect the square might hit the entire chart.
I also have Jup/Sat conjunctions.
It's hard to pinpoint the source of my ailment so to speak just because so many things are "ringing" at the same time.
Both Pluto and Uranus are well-aspected in my chart so I just hope the changes are positive. Pluto rules my 10th and Uranus my ASC. In my SR chart, my ASC has moved to my 10th. It would be nice if I finally got back to work and revived my career.
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enchantress299
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posted October 28, 2011 08:58 PM
I hear you guys on the Neptune transits. I am quite tired of this one already and it's not even close to being over. It's already opposing my Venus at 0 Pisces. Once it hits 2 Pisces, it will create a grand cross with my Jupiter/Sun/Chiron T-square. I not only feel disoriented/in a fog/lost, but I also feel like all of my inner wounds/past issues are being dug up (oh lovely Chiron). I find it very unpleasant. Not to mention the guy that decided to pop up at the same time that Venus opposed my Neptune, who I've been in a sort of 'nebulous' relationship with because we are friends, but moving in the direction of more than friends, but at the same time I don't want to go there because of a few things I've found out about him (that he hasn't been fully honest about)... It's a nice big nebulous Neptunian mess. It also just seems to further dig up those issues that I don't really care for. quote:
This person is now at the tail end of a Neptune Square Sun transit. In the beginning of this transit this person met someone and is now planning to take the relationship to the next level. How strong would you perceive this relationship to be? Could there be a lot of deception, projection etc? And how would this transit effect someone who is highly Neptunian natally as opposed to someone who does not have a lot of Neptune aspects in their chart?
I think this relationship could potentially work out, provided both parties are very honest with each other. People always think Neptune means deception, but I don't think that it does in all cases. It may also refer to boundaries that aren't well defined, and they may want to take a look at firmly defining their boundaries when dealing with each other to prevent misunderstanding and hurt. Someone who is highly Neptunian natally would probably deal better with hard Neptune transits if they also have hard natal Neptune aspects. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 28, 2011 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
I not only feel disoriented/in a fog/lost, but I also feel like all of my inner wounds/past issues are being dug up (oh lovely Chiron). I find it very unpleasant.
Same here. It's currently squaring my Moon and will square my Venus/Nodes as well. Also trine my Uranus/ascendant and conjunct my Mars at close to 3*Pisces. I think I fared better under the Sun transit, because I was so isolated, and working on creative things. I had some contact over the internet, and made a few friends through a social anxiety penpal list. When it squared my asc/desc axis and trined my Moon/Venus, I should have felt wonderful, but I had someone act weird with me (a guy) and then became more agoraphobic. I barely kept contact with anyone. Oh, there was another guy, one of my penpals, who also cut contact with me for some reason, late in 1999. That after we'd had a little phone contact, and he'd written me a few proper letters. I've been more drawn to creating art again, since the Summer of last year, but I don't have anywhere near the same focus as I did in the past. I found the timing interesting, as I initially started to get back into it at my Saturn Return (eight years ago). IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 28, 2011 11:10 PM
This t.Chiron in Pisces is no joke (!)
Neptune conj, seeing what you want, life can be beautiful and then I felt as if I couldn't trust my own judgment and was scared.
I'm starting to get back to myself a bit. Sorta wary of the next Neptune Pisces ingress.Neptune over Mars/Venus in Pisces tho, sounds like a v.creative combo! Neptune/Mars is classic for charisma. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 29, 2011 07:09 AM
Currently T Uranus conjunct my Chiron in early Aries and trining my Sun/Nept/Merc/MC stellium in the 10th.
I had a lot of pain when T Nept squared my Moon (on my IC) and T Pluto square my Chiron...
It seems never ending...
I agree with the above observation though that people with strong Nept in their natal can deal easier with these transits as the energy is not foreign. You would think with N Nept right on my MC, I'm used to fog but no, I was protected by my Sag Sun and Taurus Moon and even by my Taurus Saturn. Very down to earth. So these Neptunian transits find me completely unprepared. The one thing that hasn't happened yet is getting messed in a Nept affair. I did have a nasty "friendship" where my wishful thinking led me to a very dangerous situation as the "friend" proved anything but... Deception is true but mostly due to our Neptunian pink glasses. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't have trusted that person so easily. Oh well, right?
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Originally posted by Lonake:
This t.Chiron in Pisces is no joke (!)
Neptune conj, seeing what you want, life can be beautiful and then I felt as if I couldn't trust my own judgment and was scared.
I'm starting to get back to myself a bit. Sorta wary of the next Neptune Pisces ingress.Neptune over Mars/Venus in Pisces tho, sounds like a v.creative combo! Neptune/Mars is classic for charisma.
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Lonake
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posted October 29, 2011 10:13 PM
^Gah, I know (!) Neptune is sooo seductive.IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 30, 2011 03:13 AM
Lonake, you can say that again.
I never had issues with illusion or deception, as I have a good mind and can see things for what they are. BUT under the current influences it's like driving in the midst of fog. You can't prevent falling into a ditch! IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted October 30, 2011 03:22 AM
Grrr... Im really starting to dislike neptune...I seem so confused.. IDK what direction,path to take...
T.Neptune opps Mars.
T.Neptune sq N.Neptune... blahhh IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 30, 2011 04:07 AM
Lioness, You have the dreaded T Npt sq its own Natal self, like I do. Except in my case, N Nept is in tight conjunction to my Sun and Merc and MC!! Talk about confusion, yeshhhh!
It's a long transit but I keep saying: this too shall pass..... at some point.... surely? IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted October 30, 2011 04:13 AM
Yeah I have the Natal Neptune/Transit Neptune/Mars t square going on... T. Neptune is in my 12th...
I have lots of inner confusion. Neptune keeps going and coming... Cant wait until it moves along... Well actually that prob wont be any better then either since its moving toward my Asc.. IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted October 30, 2011 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yeah I have the Natal Neptune/Transit Neptune/Mars t square going on... T. Neptune is in my 12th...
I have lots of inner confusion. Neptune keeps going and coming... Cant wait until it moves along... Well actually that prob wont be any better then either since its moving toward my Asc..
i read that once it moves into your twelfth house, you becomes something like a 'guru'... don't know where i read it.. tried searching about the transit of it through one's 11th and found something on tribe.. someone said in the 11th one comes into contact with celebrities, artists, bohemians, etc... guru was somewhere in there so where's the love, lioness?  IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 30, 2011 12:10 PM
ROFLAMO!IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted October 30, 2011 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i read that once it moves into your twelfth house, you becomes something like a 'guru'... don't know where i read it.. tried searching about the transit of it through one's 11th and found something on tribe.. someone said in the 11th one comes into contact with celebrities, artists, bohemians, etc... guru was somewhere in there so where's the love, lioness?
WOW!!
How on earth did you get this pic of me
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tuxedoMask
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posted October 30, 2011 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
WOW!!
How on earth did you get this pic of me
i googled: "lioness' good side" IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted October 30, 2011 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i googled: "lioness' good side"
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! What ever you do dont goggle Lioness bad side.. This is what happens when the Lion deals with the fish..
(hugging self while rocking back and fourth)
repeating this phrase
Neptune makes Lion go crazy!
Neptune makes Lion go crazy!
Neptune makes Lion go crazy!
Neptune makes Lion go crazy!
Neptune makes Lion go
Neptune makes Lion go crazy! go crazy!
Lion crazy because of neptune...
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tuxedoMask
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posted November 01, 2011 12:38 AM
Hey, i found this  IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 01, 2011 12:44 AM
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