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letram
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posted October 07, 2011 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i haven't been here for a long time, but i have i believe, began something new.

i met someone online a long time ago, i felt the subtlest of attraction to them, it was very subtle, i wouldn't call it necessarily romantic, just familiar and comfortable.

i was in a relationship then but not anymore.

now i began to talk to this person on the website i met them.

based on what they do on their, supporting other members on the site, and doing things that really support people with projects, i could just smell the Aquarius in the chart.

i actually thought this person was in their earlier twenties, i had a shock yesterday to find out they was Not! they had in fact turned 18 only in September. so it turned out they were a younger person with a mature exterior, and i that familiarity i sensed really made sense, saturn was at play here.

okay, so getting to the point, i finally made a move to start talking to them yesterday, and it went really well as far as subject matter, familiarity, and a sense of deepness and not too much superficiality. but i felt since i had tried to get this to happen, a lack of balance. this person spends most of their time on this website, so much time. and i offered to them that i'd be free to talk to sometime, but it ended up being me making the first move of talking.

and since then, this fear of mine that their just too busy for me, have no time or desire to make time for me has kicked in.

i want them to want my time as much as i want theirs.. need theirs.

but that Aquarius energy.. i can tell already just seems like its only going to give more to everyone else.

thats even if this girl shares these feelings i have started to develop further.

at the end of our conversation, she showed enough interest to literally :

A talk again.
B talk when shes not busy, as far to tell me when shes got time off.

but i felt this feeling in me, to be compelled to make sure i was in control. and though i am a control orientated person, i'v never been this way with a girl before. i usually feel comfortable to compromise and not care who decides when the time is best.

but this time i did, i was not going to let this go her way, simple as that.

in the end i grew tired of her 4 minute + long replies. so i said i had to go and left some what abruptly.

i don't usually act this way but i just felt a need to do this.

can anyone see in this synastry whats going on? does it look one sided? all i can tell is that i feel its possibly one sided, and i need to feel they want to sacrifice their busyness for me Now to feel they are even the slightest into me or interested.

i'm the outer red circle.

i don't have a birth time for Blue Inner Circle / Person B yet.

thanks for any insight or comments.

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waxlobster
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posted October 07, 2011 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what... an honest answer from an Aquarian Sun-Jupiter and Uranus rising... If she's not enthusiastic she's not into you.

For someone to attract me I have to be interested in their mind and via facebook some acquaintances have become close friends of mine due to them intriguing me with their creativity and humour in their interactions.

The one thing that makes me withdraw from somebody is those that incessantly contact me. I find it needy and tiring.

Think about it the action of contacting somebody frequently comes from an "I want" mentality. "I want your energy/time/love/acceptance/friendship/affirmation"

It's the opposite of Aquarius we are "I observe". We're used to people following us, copying us, trying to get our attention. We're interested in those that are interesting enough to captivate us by being themselves.

Hope this helps. You have a Sun-Venus and Venus-Mars but if you want to interest her BE interesting and leave her alone for a while and be interested in her creativity or ideas...and then stand back again.

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posted October 07, 2011 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Goodness, what a beautiful synastry!
Venus-Sun conj (romance, tenderness, affection), Mars-Venus conj (intense attraction), Sat-NN conj (long-term bonds).
You, guys, have it all. I hope it will work out!!

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letram
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posted October 07, 2011 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks waxlobster!

yeah, i'm not a completely blind fool, i can't say yet if she's not enthusiastic about talking to me. it seems kind of 50/50.

trust me, i understand the aquarius space thing.

heres what happened:

i left a message (like hundreds of people have been doing) on her page, i never chased her. she used to come to my page and comment on my work, but that isn't unique to me, thats what she does for all people in the community.

i recently commented on her page, showed interest in one of her projects (which is genuine) and thanked her for her support and efforts she gives constantly to the community. i showed an interest in her mind because i read a journal, she seems to have some issues. so all i did was offer myself as someone to talk to sometime. eventually she gave me her skype after i offered, and we didn't talk since.

the other day i commented on something she wrote as song lyrics in her "status" on skype. she wrote back when she was online (was appearing offline, so she technically reached out to me from then) and we just talked.

i'm not a chaser, and i will never chase anyone.

i spent a fair bit of the conversation talking about why she is the way she is, but she started to ask questions and said she was curious about me, though i didn't give much.

thats about it.

my last relationship was with an aquarius sun, i was apparently too detached.

trust me, i get it.

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letram
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posted October 07, 2011 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anongrl10,

i'm not sure our synastry is all that,

what i did find interesting though was this mix up:

our suns in opposite signs to eachothers moons.

but my moon actually opposes her sun by 5 orb.

her saturn opposes my sun by abut 4 orb.

what i also found interesting was that my moon depositor is conjunct her sun & mars depositor. and mercury depositor actually.

our sun-moon midpoints are opposite signs (mine 17 gemini, hers 10 sagittarius)

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posted October 07, 2011 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get off the computer and go meet a real person. Fear is controlling your life and you use the computer for distance between a potential partner.

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posted October 07, 2011 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean you are not sure? You posted the synastry chart above; do you know how to read it? What I listed, it's on the chart! LOL, I didn't imagine it myself.

Anyway, good luck, it seems a relationship worth pursuing!
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anongrl10,

i'm not sure our synastry is all that,

what i did find interesting though was this mix up:

our suns in opposite signs to eachothers moons.

but my moon actually opposes her sun by 5 orb.

her saturn opposes my sun by abut 4 orb.

what i also found interesting was that my moon depositor is conjunct her sun & mars depositor. and mercury depositor actually.

our sun-moon midpoints are opposite signs (mine 17 gemini, hers 10 sagittarius)


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letram
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posted October 07, 2011 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anongrl10,

lol yeah i can read it and see but i don't know.. isn't other aspects here usually the ones people rave on about around here?

i guess we'll just see what happens, thanks!

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posted October 07, 2011 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The most desired synastry aspects are:
-between the Sun and the Moon
-between Mars and Venus
-between Saturn and a node or an angle

As I said above, you have:
-Sun-Venus
-Mars-Venus
-Saturn-NN

And you also counted a few others, like Moon-Sun opposition (very important for long-term viability of the relationship).

What else do you want? LOL

The rest is UP TO YOU.

Even the best -astrologically- synastry will not happen UNLESS you two make it happen. Free will, u know? Your chart will show the propensity of certain things to occur but your life has to be lived by YOU; you're not on the wall-socket running in auto mode. You must make it happen!

blessings,
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posted October 07, 2011 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Mars on her Venus and your Venus on her Sun, I am not all that surprised that you feel an "energetical flow".

Her Moon in the sign of your DESC gets your attention for sure.


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posted October 07, 2011 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anongrl,

the problem is that in the Venus-Sun AND Venus-Mars-aspect he is the "needier" one.
If she likes him back, this will not be a problem though.

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posted October 07, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
without a birthtime I cannot really say anything about her.

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posted October 07, 2011 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, that's my suggestion that he needs to pursue it if he wants it!
Plus I think it's debatable who wants whom in a Venus-Mars conjunction. We discussed that in another thread; I am an Aqua Mars and met a Venus Aqua guy. I think we were both equally nuts for each other. It's not etched on stone that the Mars person (who can be a woman) wants it more than the Venus person (who can be a man as well).

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posted October 07, 2011 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen,

i think i noticed her moon from the begining, i never picked up on the libra as much, i think i could feel the virgo familiarity though.

i have a feeling her ASC is an air or fire one.

my top guesses are:

Aries ASC
Gemini ASC
Aquarius ASC
Libra ASC
Sagittarius ASC.

why? because i noticed in her journals despite all that libra, she feels fre to be vulgar when venting, in quite a direct way. shes quite mercurial and very detatched. very mental based.

i feel i am the neadier one, thats why i'm backing off because i don't like imbalance. and i need to feel something more from her side.

but i feel this issue of control in the mix, i got to talk to her because i felt i could understand and help her with her emotional issues she seems to have. she doesn't understand her lack of feelings and emotions, and detachment. she seem to resonate with what i was getting at about the potential causes, it seems to have been the relationship with her mother, like in most cases. unavailability. emotionally unavailable too maybe. she said she was hardly around.

i guessed this based on that potential saturn-moon conjunction.

obviously aquarius moon speaks for its self as far as detatched nature goes, but i know it goes deeper than that because i sense a rejection issue in her..

she pushes away very quickly any notion that anyone can be attatched to her "nobody is attatched to me".

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posted October 07, 2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anongrl10,

yeah, i am going to peruse it carefully, i just feel for some reason, a huge uncomfort at her being in the drivers seat, and this being all one sided. i just hope i find out sooner or later.

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posted October 07, 2011 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah Letram, from your response I can see you DO get it yes It wasn't clear from your original post but it actually sounds good and there are some nice links so... I suppose just keep doing what you're doing and see what happens.

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posted October 07, 2011 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, waxlobster, i'm experience the detatched side of aquarius energy for a change. my ex who was an aqurius sun with moon capricorn and uranus conjunct mars, was really attatched in nature, i guess that Cancer ASC really can make a difference. i'm very detatched generally, but in this situation i'm finding detachment come in. shes very detatched like i am.. or was, so if she shares this mutually, maybe it will really wake up that moon of hers and her feelings, if that happens she can't ignore or be detatched but i know i'm getting ahead of things there.

thought it might be useful to upload the natal charts, what i thought was interesting is her Venus and Sun lack any major aspects. so my venus/moon opposite/cnjt her Sun must really make it feel "alive" and present? there is also my Jupiter and uranus/saturn squaring it. thats a lot of attention to her sun.

her venus takes a conjunction from my mars, and a trine from my saturn and neptune, possibly my Uranus too, and lastly a sextile from my jupiter!

anyone have experience with a girls Mars Sextile mans Sun? is this worth bothering to consider?

my ex's mars trined my sun and i felt that.

her = no birth time

i just noticed she has a strong aspect on all 4 of my angle rulers. i wonder what hers are..

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posted October 07, 2011 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Letram,

I feel you have a good approach. Probably she just need time now.
If she is into you as you into her only time will tell.
Astrology aside I also feel that if you pressure her in any way, she will disappear quickly, even if she might have feelings for you.

I know it is not just the Aqua-Moon, but I have one myself, and I could do that. Acting completely against my feelings out of fear of rejection or becoming too attached or the other becoming too attached (in my case the exact inconjunct to Saturn in 8th house might figure in as well).

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posted October 07, 2011 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anongrl,

yes, you`re right, the debate Venus-Mars is still on.

For me personally Venus seems to signify what I am most attracted to. Someon`s Sun or Mars falling on my Venus and I will be likely attracted to them.
But it is not only the planetary energy of Venus as work here, but evven more so the fact that she rules my 5th house.
In my experience the house connections usually "trump" simple planetary ones, if there are contradictions.
But it might simply be different for other people.

Here in this case, I was also looking for Letram`s 5th house.
Sagittarius on the cusp, with Jupiter in Cancer in 11th house - which definitely makes him vibe with her lunar Aquarian energy, too.
So that are already two hits, by her Aquarius-Moon; 1. in the sign of his DESC. 2. embodying his 5th house-needs.

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posted October 07, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anongrl10:

Goodness, what a beautiful synastry!
Venus-Sun conj (romance, tenderness, affection), Mars-Venus conj (intense attraction), Sat-NN conj (long-term bonds).
You, guys, have it all. I hope it will work out!!

Yeah, I saw that too and thought, "There's no way this thing is one-sided."

I think the OP is just kinda needy and takes the girl not hanging on his every word and dropping everything to immediately respond to him, as some sort of rejection.

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posted October 07, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i feel needy, but its more about what I need than Her. im growing to like her, no big deal. but the problem is, shes being a certain way which doesn't feed what i need to know wether it can work, or if she even feels the same.

for example, when i want to spend time with someone i'm interested in, i'll happily compromise something i may have been doing or usually do. but i don't see it from her, she's happy to stick to her routine of socializing on the web and make it difficult to make time for one another when were not busy. I need to see she's willing to sacrifice some of that sooner than later. otherwise it wont take a genius to figure out i won't get what i need and want enough in a relationship like that. i feel a need to know wether its gonna be a all or nothing approach.

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posted October 07, 2011 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by letram:
i feel needy, but its more about what I need than Her. im growing to like her, no big deal. but the problem is, shes being a certain way which doesn't feed what i need to know wether it can work, or if she even feels the same.

for example, when i want to spend time with someone i'm interested in, i'll happily compromise something i may have been doing or usually do. but i don't see it from her, she's happy to stick to her routine of socializing on the web and make it difficult to make time for one another when were not busy. I need to see she's willing to sacrifice some of that sooner than later. otherwise it wont take a genius to figure out i won't get what i need and want enough in a relationship like that. i feel a need to know wether its gonna be a all or nothing approach.


I can put it to you in one sentence :

I think she definitely likes you, but if you keep on this way, you are going to run her off because of her Aquarius moon.

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posted October 10, 2011 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I agree, if you're posting about her this much you're thinking about her more so that may come across in some way either online or just in your energy.

To be quite honest I find it unethical to analyse synastry for non-couples anyway. Sure it's fun to have a look but interactions cannot be defined until closeness between the parties is established.

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