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curiouswoman
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posted October 12, 2011 09:33 PM
  
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posted October 13, 2011 04:51 PM
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 13, 2011 05:39 PM
In my experience, yes. Except it can be unstable bc even though there is an attraction there is also a repulsion at the same time. This can result in a pretty push-pull situation because both ppl are attracted yet there is almost a tendency to avoid each other not only for fear of rejection because of the obsession, but because there is also a lot of things you dont really like about each other even though you are so drawn to it. Pluto is weird like that. It creates obsessive situations, but the fact that both people become so shy around eeach other and leads to a lot of emptional trouble is basically what aids in a transformation. After holdin in ur feelings, one dy u release them only to find out the person feels the same way, and you strugle together with the shyness an hesitation even if you're pretty sure the other person likes you. So its almost because u both struggle together that makes u get closer and it results in a feeling that you are really loved.To answer your question, though, yes in my experimce it has always been a mutual obsession, and the heaitation and repulsion factor was always there in every single case as well. Also, i have seen this in my friends' crushes...people they were mad about, an the other person also showed interest but in a very shy hesitant way that made them think they almost hated them instead of liked them. Just saying, watch out for that. Have u seen my thread in this? Lol. I have a topic dedicated to it, too  IP: Logged |
cooljen
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posted October 13, 2011 06:34 PM
lol crazy...I am currently experiencing a situation like this with someone I know. Your description above is soooooo accurate! Of course I can't speak for him exactly but I definitely notice this attraction/repulsion crap. I don't trust him. I'm attracted but then there is plenty of reason to avoid him (because I don't trust him). I told him I thought he was a player. (This was a while ago). And anyway, some weeks after that and other various episodes, we are no longer talking. I stopped talking to him, so now he doesn't talk to me. Haven't talked to him in a couple of months, though I see him everyday. I am amazed at how easily he carries on conversations with everyone else yet with me, when we were talking of course, he seemed like he's holding something back. I even sometimes felt as if he wanted me to go away (for lack of a welcoming feeling). But then other times, he seemed like he was trying to impress me in a way. He seemed to be more comfortable talking to me when other people are around (odd). But, one on one, its weird. I'm not quite sure what kind of 'transformation' this is supposed to be creating, or really what the purpose of this mess is. I don't see an end to this mess and I don't dare contact him. I've very subtly reached out to him a couple of times but he didn't exactly respond. Anyway, it is definitely not my job to chase after the guy. So if he were interested, he should step up and do something about it. Plenty of others do (make it known) and I think he knows that. At least he should. But he's too busy fooling around (whatever the hell he is doing or whoever? lol). So I've let him be. I feel like he needs to figure out stuff; what he's looking for, wants and needs and what not. I'm not trying to 'throw myself' at him. Not my style at all. (I'm Venus in Virgo and Mars in Cancer afterall). Some other Pluto aspects in the chart(besides Sun square Pluto): Moon square Pluto (Sun & Moon are conjunct) and Jupiter conjunct Pluto. From the moment that I noticed this situation is just like one I experienced a couple of years ago (not exactly the same but close), I've been wary. That previous situation; me and the guy talked/flirted for a little while. Then some crap happened and I stopped talking to him. He didn't talk to me, I didn't talk to him. I ignored him. I saw him everyday. One day I was p1ssed at him for something so I confronted him and yelled at him about it. He yelled back. About 2 weeks later (and 3-4 months or so of not talking), we both ended up at a party. I got slightly 'buzzed' for the first time and anyway, our 'no-talking' phase disappeared. We basically got together (my first) and after that I was done. No longer wanted anything to do with him. We had Moon opposite Pluto. I fear something like that happening with us (current guy). Of course, at this moment, that looks highly unlikely. At any rate, this situation as it is, is annoying. I don't like it, I deal with it, but don't like it. IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 14, 2011 12:28 AM
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posted October 14, 2011 12:32 AM
we also have venus trine jupiter could it mean that we def like eachother? I honestly feel as if i know him. like i understand him. it is such a strange feeling. i was with my ex for 7 years not once did i feel like this. this whole feeling is scaring me.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 14, 2011 08:48 AM
The "transformations" happened for me when I realized the guy really does like me. And when I realized that they had liked me all along, but were just too shy around me, just like I was with them. With Sun square pluto the tendency to feel "okay you acted this way towards me, so I'm going to act the same way towards you now." is very strong. It is very hard to forgive each other or let go of the little things you have done to each other because of shyness! It can be a power-struggle to the end. And for me, it has usually eventually resulted in both of us ignoring each other completely because we are so unable to trust that the other person
doesn't really mean to hurt us with the little things they do to AVOID us. They feel the same way about us, because we also avoid them just the same. So we just end up ignoring each other. Struggle and unhappiness
results in transformation. The fact that you realize eventually that they did like you but were just scared to show it, makes you throw more caution to the wind the next time it's a matter of choosing whether to follow your heart or not. After my push-pull ignoring games with sun square pluto I feel the need to break out and be more open and expressive, because i realized holding back with them only resulted in regret. Change a lot of the time, only comes out of complete and total desperation. Sun square pluto can make you pretty frustrated, and therefore, desperate for change. quote:
He seemed to be more comfortable talking to me when other people are around (odd). But, one on one, its weird.
lol this happened to me with every guy i had sun square pluto with as well. It seems to be a trend, too. It's like once they were alone with me, they felt I could see so much past their insecurities into their soul or something that they felt scared and naked. Around other people, i guess they felt i didnt have enough time to focus on just them, or maybe they could distract from their real feelings by focusing on somebody else in the group.But the guys would literally shake when we would talk alone together. I guess with guys it is scarier to be naked and vulnerable. Did you notice what happens when you look in each others eyes' ? Truly scary and absolutely beautiful! It's like you can see into each other's soul! Sooo deep. Some of them would purposely try not to make eye contact with me when we were talking. But when they did, they found it hard to break the eye contact nevertheless. It's hard to stop looking in someone's eyes when you can see so much in there!<3 IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 14, 2011 08:54 AM
Good Luck, Curious
Pluto transforms
I have not regretted my Pluto encounters.One must transform or outside things will do it for us,and it is worse!------------------
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http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 14, 2011 09:01 AM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207559-2.html
That's the thread url
Ps. I wanted to mention that sun square pluto in the composite is nothing compared to sun square pluto in synastry when it comes to lack of trust. In synastry it seems to be horrible. It could easily mean that you share lots of personal things with someone you dont even like or care about and who doesn't respect you. Sun square pluto in the composite seems to vibe differently in that it gives a deep bond that you clearly FEEL, but dont necessarily express. You dont share extremely revealing things with each other, and so it isnt as dangerous as the aspect in synastry where you do share things but you dont even feel a bond with that person.
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 14, 2011 09:05 AM
Ps one of the guys even admitted what ot felt like to look in my eyes. He said he couldnt stop looking in my eyes, he couldn't "help himself." So don't worry you're not crazy! Lol.IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 14, 2011 09:41 PM
oh my God YYEEEESSS. "But the guys would literally shake when we would talk alone together. I guess with guys it is scarier to be naked and vulnerable. Did you notice what happens when you look in each others eyes' ? Truly scary and absolutely beautiful! It's like you can see into each other's soul! Sooo deep. Some of them would purposely try not to make eye contact with me when we were talking. But when they did, they found it hard to break the eye contact nevertheless. It's hard to stop looking in someone's eyes when you can see so much in there!<3" ahhhhh that gave me goosebumps. when him and i lock eyes, it is like LOCK we cant stop staring. but I noticed he does try to avoid my eyes and I try to avoid his because it is THAT INTENSE.IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 14, 2011 09:42 PM
by the way runaroundscreaming...are you the sun or pluto?IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 14, 2011 09:43 PM
oh my God YYEEEESSS. "But the guys would literally shake when we would talk alone together. I guess with guys it is scarier to be naked and vulnerable. Did you notice what happens when you look in each others eyes' ? Truly scary and absolutely beautiful! It's like you can see into each other's soul! Sooo deep. Some of them would purposely try not to make eye contact with me when we were talking. But when they did, they found it hard to break the eye contact nevertheless. It's hard to stop looking in someone's eyes when you can see so much in there!<3" ahhhhh that gave me goosebumps. when him and i lock eyes, it is like LOCK we cant stop staring. but I noticed he does try to avoid my eyes and I try to avoid his because it is THAT INTENSE.IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 15, 2011 03:45 AM
i heard that sun is more obsessed with pluto than the pluto is with sun. or is it mutual? i really like him i am sun he is pluto. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 15, 2011 04:00 AM
But this is the composite, there isn't any sun or pluto person.Are you talking about synastry, maybe? IP: Logged |
cooljen
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posted October 15, 2011 06:28 PM
@RunAround...Thanks for your responses, They are really insightful! IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 15, 2011 10:24 PM
quote:
ahhhhh that gave me goosebumps. when him and i lock eyes, it is like LOCK we cant stop staring. but I noticed he does try to avoid my eyes and I try to avoid his because it is THAT INTENSE.
It's pretty amazing how one pluto aspect to the sun can describe things so well, right? Your reply to what i said gave me goosebumps too! That's exactly what would happen with me and these guys. Exactly! Haaa that is so awesome. It was like looking in their eyes felt really healing....sigh. It was so dreamy lol. Cooljen you're welcome! This is definitely up there as one of my favorite aspects along with sun conjunct jupiter, sun conjunct venus, venus or moon in the first house, and venus trine pluto. It's very frustrating but very passionate, right? <3 IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 16, 2011 02:10 AM
what would be the difference if it were in synastry?IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 16, 2011 11:31 AM
I've mentioned the difference I felt here in this thread, and in my own thread, too. But basically from my experience in the composite it makes two people much closer and gives a stronger bond. With it in synastry a lot of this stuff we've been talking about, including the stuff about eye contact doesn't even apply at all. In synastry it just means you share a lot of personal things with each other and that's pretty much all it means. I never felt especially close or any sort of bond with people I had it in synastry with. Never even felt obsessed or even an attraction.IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 16, 2011 09:01 PM
what's a good site to do the composite? IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 16, 2011 11:30 PM
Astro.com? Lolastro-click portrait IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted October 16, 2011 11:32 PM
hey thanks but it is complex to use it and i don't know my crush's birth time.IP: Logged |
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posted October 28, 2011 03:24 AM
Bumping this because I have more to share about this situation...So this guy, we're still not talking. There was a bit of a break like 1 day last week, but then I went back to ignoring him. And I got p1ssed off at him because I don't trust him. Lately, he seems to find some time everyday to pass by me and give me these 'seductive stare downs' where our eyes lock for a few moments. On one hand it seems to be our only connection, but then on the other hand I wonder...is that all? Now its starting to seem like we want different things. This is becoming too passive. What is he trying to gain by staring me down? Its like he wants me to go to him (not happening) and he's saying 'I just want to get in your pants' which only further makes me think of him as a player. And there's another girl in the picture, who I don't trust at all because she flirts right back with him, even though she has a boyfriend and is much younger. He's changed his behavior. I've noticed. He doesn't act like he did months ago (overtly flirtatious) but I don't know if that's just him hiding it. What if they made some pact or something to hide it at work but outside its something else? Again, I don't see what the point of that would be. To me that just seems like a lot of unnecessary work. Why go through all that trouble? Why can't he just be upfront? There's just way too much being hidden, which of course is part why I don't trust him. Maybe its that... he won't be upfront because no girl wants to be one of many, and apparently he wants to keep many or something. At least this is how its starting to seem, despite his change in behavior. How difficult is it to know what you want and be honest about it? Because of this, I just continue to not pay attention to him. Why should I pay attention to someone who wants to divide his attention? Isn't it easier to just be honest? Being this way causes the other person to be jealous and possessive and suspicious of everything. Its no way to relate to someone. I find myself going back and forth... 'ignore him' then 'cut him some slack, maybe I'm just being too hard'...etc. One thing that remains is this on my mind. Not like every minute of the day or something! But even when I resolve to not pay attention to him and focus elsewhere, this still ends up cropping back up in my mind at some point (maybe days later). Maybe because there's a lot unanswered and unclear. I think I'm done venting (for now at least)! IP: Logged |
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posted October 28, 2011 03:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by curiouswoman:
hey thanks but it is complex to use it and i don't know my crush's birth time.
You don't have to know his birth time for the composite unless you're looking at aspects to the moon or the angles(that includes the asc).Just put the birth time as 12 pm, and why is it complicated? IP: Logged |
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posted October 28, 2011 04:01 PM
From my experience with pluto the insecurity was not real. I also thought the guys I had sun square pluto were players or were trying to use me in some way, but sooner or later I found out that was not the case. Maybe he thinks he should keep his options open? But as a guy, you chasing after him would definitely be a big ego boost, and then he will lose interest. So don't do it. I found with these guys that if I showed myself to eager towards their advances then they would back away. But, if I ignored them that also didn't go well, they seemed hurt and confused. So be friendly, but not too eager.IP: Logged |
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