posted October 13, 2011 01:23 AM            

I'm curious because I've been reflecting on the many connections I made with people when I was in college not too long ago. I had a couple very intense connections, two in particular that have stayed firmly in my memory. One was an Aquarius of which I had an intense attraction to. He was friendly and perceptive but he'd have bouts of going cold and was very distant and another who was a Cancer, Gemini Rising very sweet but unstable and flighty. I wasn't incredibly into natal charts during college therefore I can't give complete natal descriptions based on dates. Neither of these relationships went past deep conversations. It was weird because both of these two people weren't shy about hiding how they felt about me yet they both ended up settling for women nothing like me. Maybe I was guarded but it made me wonder what would push someone to take the sure thing over the possibility. I identify myself as the possibility because I'm Uranus dominant and pretty out there. I ask because I have always chosen the possibility when it came to friendships and relationships I guess it's the Aquarian in me always looking for something just over the horizon. I've never settled for anyone and I'm curious why they both did. Can this be isolated astrologically? It's like the cold feet concept except we weren't assessing the probability of marriage.

posted October 13, 2011 01:35 AM            

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posted October 13, 2011 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
I always feel put off by aquarian men... they are too aloof i guess!

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I'm also attracted to Aquarius, but I don't understand them (I'm a Leo Sun) or at least men with Aqua influences. My boyfriend at the moment has Aqua rising and he can come off really aloof, and selfish, plus he is a Taurus which doesn't help with the selfishness...

posted October 13, 2011 02:46 AM            

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I became insane, with long
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sanity.-Poe

If the truth is relative then there's nothing that is really true.

You were created the same way I was and will eventually be destroyed the same way as well.

Who saw him die?

posted October 13, 2011 12:35 PM            

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Vertiver: I'm noticing a pattern that Aquarius, when un-evolved, can be very selfish, its like that humanitarian potential got inverted, and all they care about is themselves.

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I agree because I've met my fair share of un-evolved Aquas. He was 4 years older then me when I met him, it sucks when they're older and still not together.

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Amelia28: I normally choose the possibility but after giving my heart and soul to someone who did not fight for me when he needed to instead of 9 years later I am more hesitant now towards choosing the possibility over the for sure thing as I don't like making same mistakes repeatedly.

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Thanks for sharing your perspective Amelia. There's a lot of risk that comes with choosing the possibility. I've only given my heart to a couple people but when I did it was a major risk because they weren't sure things. The people I'm discussing weren't the two men I mentioned in my initial post btw. One left me hanging the other didn't and we grew apart, we became different people. But I don't regret taking those chances. The one who left me hanging was surprisingly another un-evolved Aquarius, man I'm a gluten for punishment.

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BelligerentPygmy: NativelyJoan, honestly I think you nailed it with your initial guesses; I immediately thought it sounded like a Saturn/Capricorn-type thing.

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Thanks, and I think it really is that conservative Saturn dominance. It makes me wonder though why we need so much outside security in life, especially when it comes to relationships. So much so we'd marry someone who could provide for our family and build a solid foundation but whom we may not be truly in love. I just don't think there's a right way to live, and you could honestly build a life with anyone it would just take a lot of unconditional love. I'm not on the fence about this stuff, I know exactly what I want in life and love I'm just curious about other peoples ideas related to similar situations.

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Anongrl10: I think it's in human nature to settle.

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Yeah I think half of it is human nature and the other half is nurture or the environment we're in or have been exposed to. I grew up in a broken home and can identify what out of that situation made me lean on the fence toward more unconventional relationships and living situations as opposed to the traditional conservative route. My upbringing somewhat parallels my personality and it's probably why I consistently take chances when it comes to relationships. I however use much discrimination in making those choices. I'm not a settler.

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RegardesPlatero: However, though these people can be interesting and can teach us lessons that we have to learn, they simply don't have it in them to build a solid foundation and then to put a stable relationship on top of it.

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Thanks for your insights RegardesPlatero. I also think society has a big impact on what we'd characterize as solid and stable. Which is a natural reaction to the type of environments we've been exposed too. It's why we can so easily fall into gender norms and gender roles in relationships because society mirrors that. I personally feel that overtime the lessons we learn from different people in different relationships help us to accept unions that balance against our evolution. In fact it would seem in the end we aren't settling but accepting the possibility of something greater that truly resonates with us beyond the material and physical.

posted October 13, 2011 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I personally think expectations are why people settle, it's easier to settle and have someone live up to your expectations then be disappointed by choosing the possibility, which may or maybe not bring something more. Even though truthfully expectations have no place in life or love. Maybe conservative Saturn might have something to do with this. [/B]

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With Saturnian/Capricornian people I think it's strictly about appearances, social status and stability. They don't want someone on their arm that they think isn't going to improve their social standing in some way, whether by being super-attractive, or super-successful, or having a lot of power, so on and so forth. They care a LOT about what other people think and they aren't going to set up house with someone unless they think the world at large and all their friends will be wowed or impressed by their choice in some way...even if that isn't the person they really have the strongest feelings for, for them their improved social status trumps all that.

Along with the desire for stability. Did you say your ascendant was Aquarius? Uranians/Aquarians are scary as hell to people that are pretty Saturnian, because they're eccentric and unpredictable, and they're all about stability.

posted October 13, 2011 01:49 PM            

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With Saturnian/Capricornian people I think it's strictly about appearances, social status and stability. They don't want someone on their arm that they think isn't going to improve their social standing in some way, whether by being super-attractive, or super-successful, or having a lot of power, so on and so forth. They care a LOT about what other people think and they aren't going to set up house with someone unless they think the world at large and all their friends will be wowed or impressed by their choice in some way...even if that isn't the person they really have the strongest feelings for, for them their improved social status trumps all that.

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BP you are sooo full of sh*t lol where do you get your info, the horoscope section of the newspaper?

posted October 13, 2011 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
BP you are sooo full of sh*t lol where do you get your info, the horoscope section of the newspaper?

As a Cap who knows many other Caps, what BP said is not true. Personally I go for the bad boy types that promise a thrilling (yet sometimes disastrous and hurtful) relationship. The only person I've ever known to want someone just for looks, status, and appearances was an Aries.

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I think BP was describing the archetype of Saturn/Capricorn. Of course possessing all those traits would depend on many things including sign placements and aspects. There's an executive aura that seems to surround Saturn heavy individuals. My father is heavy Saturn and he is a no-nonsense conventionally systematic and conservative prick. When I was younger and used to borrow things from him, let's say his car, he'd type up a contract for me to sign.

posted October 13, 2011 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Did you say your ascendant was Aquarius? Uranians/Aquarians are scary as hell to people that are pretty Saturnian, because they're eccentric and unpredictable, and they're all about stability.

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Wow, I completely agree thank you. I honestly think it's the aura of unpredictability and plain zaniness that I give off being an Aquarius Rising with dominant Uranus in my chart. In addition I have personal planets in my 8th house as well as Pluto there which means I'm pretty intense. Which is true everyone says I'm very intimidating and intense. I think it's my presence not anything I intentionally put off. Actually many men I've dated have stated that, and they would never relax around me. Anyways I think that coupled with my Uranian energy puts more conservative types off because I represent intense erraticism and instability.

posted October 13, 2011 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
BP you are sooo full of sh*t lol where do you get your info, the horoscope section of the newspaper?

As a Cap who knows many other Caps, what BP said is not true. Personally I go for the bad boy types that promise a thrilling (yet sometimes disastrous and hurtful) relationship. The only person I've ever known to want someone just for looks, status, and appearances was an Aries.

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I got it from firsthand experience with :

Two Capricornian/Saturnian exes, one with Capricorn Rising, and the other with a Cap moon.

As well as having lived my entire life with my brother, who is a Capricorn ascendant.

The Cap ascendant ex started seeing another woman before he even properly ended his relationship with me; even so, after that he kept hovering around me making comments to me about the other girl. His usual comment about her? "It's awesome to finally be in a power couple", along with periodically mentioning how 'beautiful' he thought she was. Seldom did he mention love, and when he did I had a hard time buying it because he was spending so much time and energy around ME.

The Cap moon ex would spend a lot of time trying to talk to me about the band he was trying to start and how he knew a musician who played for famous-person-so-and-so, name-dropping. Whenever we discussed him going to school, the thing he always seemed to be the most interested in wasn't the subject he was majoring in but the money he'd be making once he graduated and went into the field; he harped on that enough that at one point I flat out asked him is that why he chose the major he did, at which point he tried to back track and insist it wasn't. Privately he was all over me but publically he did his best to distance himself from me, especially around his friends and would even sit there and say nothing while they'd attack me. I confronted him about it privately at which point he started on a rant about everything he felt was wrong with me and didn't come up to snuff, topping it off with how he thought I was a loser, before ending the relationship. Later he tried to deny ever having been romantically involved with me in front of them and actually said I was lying.

posted October 13, 2011 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Wow, I completely agree thank you. I honestly think it's the aura of unpredictability and plain zaniness that I give off being an Aquarius Rising with dominant Uranus in my chart. In addition I have personal planets in my 8th house as well as Pluto there which means I'm pretty intense. Which is true everyone says I'm very intimidating and intense. I think it's my presence not anything I intentionally put off. Actually many men I've dated have stated that, and they would never relax around me. Anyways I think that coupled with my Uranian energy puts more conservative types off because I represent intense erraticism and instability.

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*laugh*

I'm the same way. I have Pluto in the eighth too along with three other planets, I'm also an Aqua rising, and I actually have Uranus and Lilith conjunct my midheaven. I make waves and stick out without even trying to, and I don't think of myself as coming across intense but apparently I do because I get the weirdest reactions from people. Strongly Uranian people with packed eighth houses, really aren't for cowards.

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posted October 13, 2011 03:44 PM            

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BelligerentPygmy: Strongly Uranian people with packed eighth houses, really aren't for cowards.

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Definitely. It took awhile for me to understand that, growing up you think anyone could flow with anyone else but it's never that easy.

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BelligerentPygmy: The thing about your dad drafting a contract before you could borrow his car is hilarious to me; that reminds me of my brother! One month something came up with my money where through no fault of my own, I wasn't able to pay my half of the rent, right? I went to open the blinds in the living room and he came in right behind me, closed them and told me that since I didn't pay half the rent that month those were HIS blinds and that I couldn't touch them.

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It's crazy, just madness. Your brother definitely sounds hard to handle. I have lent friends, siblings, partners all kinds of things and never once asked for anything in return especially not resorting to contractual agreements. My dad did that with everything. I have old contracts from various things when I was growing up. He saw me as a free spirited wild child and to this day he feels that way. It's nuts because I'm zany but not untamed, I'm wild in my perspectives not necessarily in my actions. I'm just a free thinker.

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Ami Anne: Well, if you do House Rulers, you can see what spheres of life are important to you. I will do yours, if you put your chart up.

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