posted October 30, 2011 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by prettywords:
For me it was an unrequited love. The person whose Venus fell in my 12th totally fed into it and led me on. It wasn't until years later that I realized they kept me hanging on just for their ego.

I'm pretty bitter about it actually, but don't care at the same time... if that makes any sense.

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posted October 30, 2011 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Sure, that makes sense. You'd feel that impression of being used in some way, but at the same time, understanding what had happened, so maybe the full sting isn't there any longer. I'm guessing here...

So you were in contact with that person, and they manipulating your feelings. Any Neptune involved with all that? In your synastry? Anything like that? Just curious... Were you in awe of the person?

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posted November 21, 2011 08:51 AM            

I can tell you the feelings of deep, spiritual, enduring & endless love keep growing stronger within me. We've known each other for about 4 1/2 years and he just has the balm I need somehow. I don't think I could ever not feel for him, it feels very unconditional to me.

He acknowledges the feeling also, but I'm not so sure he feels it as profoundly as me (not so sure about that). We are not together as a couple - just friends and it feels to me like we are destined to be together (even if it is just friendship) - in fact its always felt that way.

I feel like I always want to help him, it doesn't feel like I owe him or have too, it feels like I want to help him in his life, I want to see him shine, and at the same time I accept what he has to share with me, his words mean something to me, I have a great respect for him and I feel that he understands me where no-one ever has.

posted November 22, 2011 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hi Pretty words

My Venus in his 12th--unforgettable.

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posted February 21, 2013 06:17 AM            

Honestly.. 12th house synastry is not very good.. I wish it were easier but the planet person always messes up (actually both can mess up at different times). Idk why, maybe they're too uncomfortable with the 12th house energy ?

And it's often very 'hidden', there are undercurrents going on but no one openly talks about them.. it's all on an intuitive/unspoken level.

But it's magnetic. You're drawn to that person but you *don't know why*. You may very well know that they're wrong for you or that nothing's ever gonna happen between you and yet there's still that pull that's hard to break. Weird..

posted February 21, 2013 11:04 AM              

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44857

posted February 21, 2013 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
tuxedomask...the first relationship you described sounds alottttttttttt like the one i have now...his venus falls in my 12th also......he has poured his feelings out to me yada yada we'll have these great flowy convos then he just randomly stops talking? i don't wanna talk back cause maybe his busy? he has started to make me feel awkward and ****** off for ignoring me..happened more than once...don't treat ppl like that...then following week he'll pop back up again...its like he only wants to talk when he wants to talk yet "loves me" and wants to see me so bad.....stfu is what i say now no more for him.

why do they do this? is this a 12th house aspect trait or just dusche trait?

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I did this with someone in whose 12 house my venus resided. His saturn, pluto and moon were in my 12th.

I didnt do this to be a douchebag like you said. I just felt very unsure of my postion in his life and being around him was all sorts of drama. I dont mind drama but I didnt feel appreciated by him at all. He would talk about marriage, kids, getting a house and then all of a sudden he would be lazy, need to hit the gym, go do something the moment we would get to chatting online. He would then talk to other girls and say gn to me. So I mean, come on! Im not stupid. Im not going to sit around for someone like that. He would have excuses and say hey but I thought you were sleepy or what have you, but I would only say I was sleepy after I would notice a disconnect from him. Anyway, he never understood me. The worst part was he never tried. He also never appreciated me for the things I did for him and the time I was there for him. So one day out of the blue, after a huge fight where he told me he hated me and wished he never met me, I wished him luck in life and stopped talking to him altogether. I felt like ok so you want to be free and dont want to be around me. So be free. I gave him what he wanted.

posted February 21, 2013 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I did this with someone in whose 12 house my venus resided. His saturn, pluto and moon were in my 12th.

I didnt do this to be a douchebag like you said. I just felt very unsure of my postion in his life and being around him was all sorts of drama. I dont mind drama but I didnt feel appreciated by him at all. He would talk about marriage, kids, getting a house and then all of a sudden he would be lazy, need to hit the gym, go do something the moment we would get to chatting online. He would then talk to other girls and say gn to me. So I mean, come on! Im not stupid. Im not going to sit around for someone like that. He would have excuses and say hey but I thought you were sleepy or what have you, but I would only say I was sleepy after I would notice a disconnect from him. Anyway, he never understood me. The worst part was he never tried. He also never appreciated me for the things I did for him and the time I was there for him. So one day out of the blue, after a huge fight where he told me he hated me and wished he never met me, I wished him luck in life and stopped talking to him altogether. I felt like ok so you want to be free and dont want to be around me. So be free. I gave him what he wanted.

He never appreciated me. And this is why I feel that 12th house venus means they will never appreciate you fully, and I felt very led on by him. So yeah, he was the douchebag. I dont respect him nor admire him. I decided that want to be around someone I have respect and hopefully someone I admire.

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posted February 21, 2013 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Which sign is your Venus in?

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posted February 22, 2013 12:28 AM            

well i'm aware of the fact you need really good communication because things can get pretty wild and hazy and distorted in this house.....it's like all of a sudden i'll be thinking horrible of him having all these bad feelings towards him..but then i take a step back and think wow, what has he even done for me to feel this way? his done nothing but just be flighty in communication but still i shouldn't be so worked up over it yaknow? and then once i realize that it's like my head comes back down to earth hahah anyways

I know for one i try to be very clear with him, theres no doubt or not even possible he couldn't think i like him and care about him...but he still is flighty, his the one that talks about marriage and is alwaysss the one that brings it up, its like his putting all this unneccesary pressure on himself and sabatoging the relationship lol like chill dude

i definately believe this is a karmic placement,,i feel like i know him in my heart, but my mind doesn't know him at all

i feel this can work out well if other partner isn't afraid to be vulnerable, UNFORTUNATELY he has capricorn moon the opposite of vulnerability, should i just give up now?

thats a stupid question, cause its karma it wont end till we get down and dirrrtayyyyy

posted February 22, 2013 01:38 AM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
hmmmm seems to be a consistent pattern in relationships with how this energy interacts!!!! UGHHH WHYYYYYYY

well i'm aware of the fact you need really good communication because things can get pretty wild and hazy and distorted in this house.....it's like all of a sudden i'll be thinking horrible of him having all these bad feelings towards him..but then i take a step back and think wow, what has he even done for me to feel this way? his done nothing but just be flighty in communication but still i shouldn't be so worked up over it yaknow? and then once i realize that it's like my head comes back down to earth hahah anyways

I know for one i try to be very clear with him, theres no doubt or not even possible he couldn't think i like him and care about him...but he still is flighty, his the one that talks about marriage and is alwaysss the one that brings it up, its like his putting all this unneccesary pressure on himself and sabatoging the relationship lol like chill dude

i definately believe this is a karmic placement,,i feel like i know him in my heart, but my mind doesn't know him at all

i feel this can work out well if other partner isn't afraid to be vulnerable, UNFORTUNATELY he has capricorn moon the opposite of vulnerability, should i just give up now?

thats a stupid question, cause its karma it wont end till we get down and dirrrtayyyyy

he has sun, mercury, venus, and saturn in my 12th house.....if saturn is there would that make him want to stick around?

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True.
He put the pressure on himself.
In the beginning I refused to make it an official r/s because I wanted to be open about it with family and friends.

He kept saying things like *I kinda feel weird having a single status, you know? I mean we ....*

And he knew that I would not say I love a guy until I was 100% sure. And he would ask me, when would I know. I used to joke, *When I am 80 and he is sitting next to me on a porch, then I will know for sure. He weathered life with me and was faithful to me the whole time.* lol

So when we got into an argument, he blurted out that he loved me. And then it made me feel guilty that I didnt reply back. I felt like I loved him and cared for him deeply but I had and still have no realy notion of true love. Anyway, so he said.....*Look I know you wont say it back because of how you feel about saying those words. So let us leave this on the shelf, ok?*

And i was speechless for a while but eventually after a nice talk with my dad about life....I told him I loved him as well.

But see even the marriage talk, kids, even how we would decorate our house....it was all him. I never brought that stuff up.

I as well as my friends and more thoughtful guy friends felt he was really irresponsible though. Why bring those things up when things were clearly ok without them. He wasnt sure and was really thoughtless about these topics. It is one thing when you are talking lightly about it, but he was so serious.

He put so much pressure on the r/s and near the end he acted like I made all thsoe promises. It was so lame how there was such a reversal. Bait and switch. And I fell for it.

posted May 20, 2014 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
^ My venus is in the 12th conj my s.o's asc. Idk I just think he's gorgeous n I wanna spoil him rotten most of the time.

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posted August 30, 2014 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Yea I don't like this position, depending on who is the venus and who is the house person, I either can't tell the person I like them or the other way around is they tell me they like me, but I feel like I'm a secret to everyone. I mean it could just be my own imagination..but that's how 12th house works, you never *really* know..

I don't know which is worse though Venus or Mars in the 12th..

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posted August 30, 2014 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Merope:
asstacular.

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I've literally laughed at this for several minutes. Thank you.

posted August 30, 2014 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Helios:
I've literally laughed at this for several minutes. Thank you.

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Sorry, I'm more often than not inappropriate with my sayings.

But his mars/venus conjunct my venus in my 12th house, and reading this post has actually shed light on how I behave towards him and his reactions to me.

There's a lot of doubt on my part, fear of his rejection even though he tells me and shows me otherwise, but we work together so I always tell him to not let people see us interact, etc. And I ignore him when other people are around, well not IGNORE but unless he inserts himself into the conversation I don't acknowledge him because I don't want people to see my reaction to him. I feel like there's a big neon sign on my forehead telling everyone I've got feelings for him. And it's pretty obvious, cause I'm a rampant hard ass but when he and I speak I turn soft and happy. lol.