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posted October 14, 2011 10:26 AM            

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posted October 14, 2011 10:38 AM              

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Wow, that is weird!
She is only one day younger than me, but we have different Ascendants.

What is with that stellium in 6th house in composite? Are you working with each other?

In the synastry I like the exact line up of 5th house and ASC. Speaks of fun and a lot of romantic sparks.

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posted October 14, 2011 10:41 AM            

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How interesting,I'd never say u r sb who need freedom in relationship,by looking at ur chart.

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posted October 14, 2011 10:52 AM            

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^ uh he has an aquarius moon lol, virgos hate clingy people, and libras like space too.

Of course he'll want the freedom

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posted October 14, 2011 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
^ uh he has an aquarius moon lol, virgos hate clingy people, and libras like space too.

Of course he'll want the freedom

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opposed by H7 ruler Saturn,while Pluto,H5 ruler sq Cancer Mars,add to that Virgo Venus... But,the force of luminaries obviously tops that. Plus,Saturn is in H2,what he values is Saturn-theme.

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posted October 14, 2011 11:32 AM            

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I'm a virgo sun and mars, and I like my freedom. I would think him being a virgo venus would be the same way. Saturn aspects would just make him more the serious type, that's all. It would sober him up alittle, but it wouldn't make his aquarius moon behave too much like a cancer (for eg).

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posted October 14, 2011 11:59 AM            

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posted October 14, 2011 01:10 PM            

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Boys with Mars/Pluto aspects can come across as forceful and possessive. Maybe it's not about changing but finding ur match. I am always in favour of that Or fate? there is Dsc/Pluto connection.

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posted October 14, 2011 01:26 PM            

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posted October 14, 2011 02:40 PM              

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Duckerbunny, the 6th house stellium could also indicate that every day life may play an important role in your relationship.

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posted October 14, 2011 03:30 PM            

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I think the pluto dsc conjunction isn't a big deal since pluto is a generational planet and it moves really slow. BUT I see that the north node conjuncts the desc. That points to your meeting being fated =)

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posted October 14, 2011 05:27 PM            

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it definitely felt fated. I've never had a first date that long. We found so much in common and didn't want the night to end. Had to be hands down one of the best dates of my life.

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posted October 14, 2011 07:15 PM            

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Honestly, my mars square pluto generally sabotages or messes things up when it comes to relationships. But, in this relationship its different, or at least there are some pretty tight reigns on it. (does our composite or synastry show that this factor is somehow negated or lessened?) There is a lot of heart felt affection that is reciprocated. I can be completely emotionally open to them. I feel extremely patient with them. I keep asking myself..am I ..changing?

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You also have Venus conj Saturn and Moon opp Saturn equal to intimacy fears, sabotaging things. She has Venus in Capricorn so on some level she is understanding of this underlying serious approach to relationships. Plus she has Venus t square Saturn and Pluto.
She has Venus sq Pluto which speaks nicely to your Mars Pluto aspect so there is a steamy undertone to communications there that your Mars appreciates.
I can understand freedom desires from Mars/Jupiter trine Uranus + Aqua Moon.
Your ASC axis meeting up with her MC axis points to an affinity and acts as an attractor.
Her Moon in 12th, Mars in 8th
You Mars in 12th, Moon in 8th so there is a lot of emotional exchange here, in tune with each other, she likely satisfies your need for a partner with depth.
You have Mars 12th, she has Mars conj Neptune so you 2 easily enter into sexual fantasy with each other, a dream world.
You have Sun sq Jupiter, she has Sun Sagittarius in the 9th, so you 2 meet on idealistic expectations of the world, big ideas, lots of theories to express and discuss with each other. She also has Moon conj Jupiter so you prob see her as a fun dynamic individual at least part of the time (when she is not under pluto/saturn to her venus).
You both have Neptune basically conj but your Mercury squares it and her Jupiter squares it so together there is a Neptune/Jupiter/Merc t-square which points strongly to over idealizing this relationship, which you're both primed for natally. Enjoy it, but don't expect it to give you everything you think it will. Guard against misrepresenting yourself to her even if you think you've been clear and don't expect her to follow through on everything she says. You could get addicted to the positive feeling of Jupiter forgetting that it doesn't work so well when realities surface that neither of you can change. It's a sweet synastry, I can see where you would see her as being like yourself, but she is v.changeable and can cut off a relationship in an instant when it no longer meets her immediate wants or needs and is also prone to easily slipping into the arms of another so it may prove difficult in time to keep her attn turned to you. Her sadge Mars (Asc ruler) only squares your virgo Venus which is in her 6th so she may come to see you as a bore over time. Your Asc and Dsc rulers make good aspects to her chart, so you're set there.

I progressed both of your charts for a month ago, mid september, which is when you started dating. It shows some clear connections,
---Her p.Venus is at 24 Aquarius *exactly* conj your natal Moon (asc ruler) and this is a nice sweet connection, she is caring for you is there to give you the space you need, you are not pushing her with more of a relationship than she can handle, likely she feels now that she wants to set the pace in relationships and you are not burdening her in this respect, you don't make her feel bad for wanting her own space
---Her p.Moon is in Cancer conj Saturn (it will stay in cancer for another yr and a half or so), so she is picking up on your natal Moon/Saturn opposition and its needs for security. Her Moon is also picking up on your ASC in Cancer so she likes that you express yourself via the asc in a calm clear manner.
---Her p.Mars is at 2 Capricorn exactly trine your natal Venus, so there is more of a workable sexual tension here, that adds to the excitement of the synastric Venus/Mars square which would point to lots of tension, with the trine from her progressed Mars she is using her energy in a more straightforward less nebulous fashion than her natal inclines so for now, at least, she is willing to deal with relationship practicalities and can meet your Venus Virgo wants at least half of the time with no problem.
---Your p.DSC is 21 Aquarius, conj your n.Moon and conj her p.Venus so all this adds up clearly to your desires for freedom now as you stated, and you can see how they match up nicely with hers at this time.
---Your p.Sun at 4 Scorp trine her n.Moon at 6 Pisces so there is a v.v.pleasant non verbal emotional exchange going on, very close, very intimate, lot being communicated even when there are no words and it feels healing that someone understands both of you on this level.
---Your p.Venus at 13 Libra is in her n.7th, 4 deg off from a conj, may be a bit wide when looking at your progressed, but it does show again a Venus/DSC dynamic which shows both looking for the same things right now in a relationship. Nice that it is in another air sign so the Aquarius dynamic is not adversely affected. Tho keep in mind Aqua is an energy that is looking out for itself, it will stay by you if you don't tread on them, otherwise it bolts, but Libra will stay and work on things, so those 2 energies are something you both want right now, someone who will stay with you long enough to not be too heavy, no crazy demands, and to see if either of you individually can really pull off a relationship. Transiting Saturn in Libra has been going through her natal 7th and it has been going over your p.Venus/Pluto in Libra conjunction. So you both are dealing with a Saturn/Venus dynamic, like I said both natally, and also with how t.Saturn is working over both your charts right now. Venus/Saturn like this can indicate a marriage or formal commitment. Not saying anything, just saying what it could point to.

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posted October 17, 2011 10:25 AM            

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Thank you so much for your reply! Very, very detailed - and incredibly interesting. Again, thank you for this it is much appreciated.

I'm curious to what each of us would be expecting from the relationship since we do have the tendency to over-idealize it. I've noticed that she does say a few things but forgets or doesn't follow through. That part doesn't really bug me though. Sometimes it is difficult to get her to open up. She is a lot more open via text or email though, face to face deep conversations are somewhat difficult. It seems as though her personality is somewhat split in that fashion (she made that comment initally).

Can you please shed a little more light on the "..when realities surface that neither of you can change", would this be personality related or situation related?

Also, what makes me see her as being like myself? At times there is so much similarty there but then it, like you said because of her changefulness, changes rapidly and I see a new side of her. To me it seems like she loves new experiences and it is the routine of things that tend to get her bored down. If that is the case though, relationships may prove difficult because they always get in to some sort of routine, even though you may spice things up from time to time. Is that true or no?

What makes me set for the Asc and DSC ruler aspects?

Thank you again, I am so curious about this! I love astrology, it seems to hit everything spot on. I would say the first couple weeks of dating was very intense, we had to see each other constantly. Now it seems to be dying down, which for me feels ok, I don't like the saturated feeling for too long (probably for my need for space) but she has the reigns and we will see where it goes.

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posted October 17, 2011 12:25 PM            

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Edit: I just read what you wrote above the charts and yes with Uranus conjunct the love stellium Freedom will definitely be a very strong feeling and THEME in your relationship. You will feel like you can do anything together because each of you makes te other person break out of their comfort zone and preconceived notions! As far as arguments go, saturn being square the love stellium does indicate that in time one or both of you will turn pretty critical and inconsiderate of the other in time. However, saturn makes two people feel a heavy commitment to each other, so it doesnt mean you will necessarily separate despite the difficulties. Plus, you have jupiter opposing the love stellium so it's not so bad. That and uranus eases a lot of the stress.
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In the composite, your planets are all clustered together, so it is no wonder you're drawn to one another. You also have what I call the "love stellium" A Sun-mercury-venus conjunction, even though it's not very tight. You also have sun conjunct venus and venus trine moon which is really good.
This all indicates unconditional love and I would say you are very compatible so congrats . The love stellium indicates the most loving relationship of your life and all planets being clustered together means "soulmates!"
However, synastry could seriously change that. If you have mutual moon-saturn aspects for example, you will feel that it's very hard to be together. That's just one example, so I'm just trying to make a point that the synastry is very important for further info.

The only thing is that you have the "love stellium" squared by saturn so you will find out in time that you can both be pretty serious and depressed together. Most of the time it'll feel like you're two dogs on a very short leash together will all the pessimism and financial difficulties or responsibilities that will rain down on you. On the other hand, you do have the stellium opposite jupiter which indicates a whole lot of FUN together. So, i can see why you came together despite the saturn. Your relationship will probably have both things---depression AND the ability to lighten each other up a little.

I could tell you more about your compatibility from your synastry but the chart you posted doesnt have the synastry aspects there. You could try grupovenus.com and see if u have any mutual synastry aspects (it will say it at the top of the romantic compatibility report).
Mutual aspects usually describe relationships in and of themselves.

Also i like astrology3d.com because it shows the minor aspects which are tight in orb which are very true as well but you wouldnt really find in any other compatbility reading.

Moonit.com or sasstrology.com/love-calculator is very accurate for me as well. The friendship compatbility on moonit is the long-term compatibility. Unfortunately, sasstrology only has the romantic comparibility, so what I do is creat a profile with the other person's birthdate and then put my birthdate into the report where you would usually put your significant others bd when i select it.

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posted October 17, 2011 09:28 PM            

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"Can you please shed a little more light on the "..when realities surface that neither of you can change", would this be personality related or situation related? "
---Idealism vs. reality.

"Also, what makes me see her as being like myself?"
---Shared aspects like I wrote, things in common.

"If that is the case though, relationships may prove difficult because they always get in to some sort of routine, even though you may spice things up from time to time. Is that true or no?"
---I'm not following here...

"What makes me set for the Asc and DSC ruler aspects?"
---Your Asc and Dsc rulers in good aspect to her chart.

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