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Doreen
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posted October 16, 2011 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you help someone with this placement The guy has it in the natal chart
Sat in Pis Moon in Gem

And also in synastry with his girl friend the girl asked me to help her deal with it and I would like some help with this from you guys any remedies ?

Should I tell her to stop being serious and start acting like a child around him ?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 16, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He prolly finds it hard to express his deep, childlike,playful side. Is he kind of cold, emotionally?

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posted October 16, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for squirrel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doreen,

he is probably prone to depression or self pity and has to deal with some emotional insecurity and/or an inferiority complex.

I wouldn't call him cold, not at all. Those people are rather sensitive and easily hurt.

About synastry-I can't tell, I never had it in synastry. Sorry.

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Doreen
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posted October 16, 2011 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
He prolly finds it hard to express his deep, childlike,playful side. Is he kind of cold, emotionally?


Yes quite cold emotionally kind though

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Doreen
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posted October 16, 2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by squirrel:
Doreen,

he is probably prone to depression or self pity and has to deal with some emotional insecurity and/or an inferiority complex.

I wouldn't call him cold, not at all. Those people are rather sensitive and easily hurt.

About synastry-I can't tell, I never had it in synastry. Sorry.


Definitely has an inferiority complex he is the eldest in his family mother never really paid much attention to him oh yes and easily hurt

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 16, 2011 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in synastry, i would tell whoever is saturn to be more considerate of the moon person's emotional needs, more kind and sweet and happy, and less demanding

this aspect reminds me of a "tough love" kind of feeling

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Doreen
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posted October 17, 2011 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you RAS I always enjoy reading your posts

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Lonake
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posted October 17, 2011 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doreen:
Should I tell her to stop being serious and start acting like a child around him ?


Haha. Tell her to encourage him to verbalize his emotions when they hit, not after analysis or stuffing them away, to feel em through, he might be prone to anxiety so this would help. Saturn in Pisces also needs to be involved in the arts. If he feels a good mental bond with someone he will open up.

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mintgirl123
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posted October 17, 2011 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They aren't cold, just find it hard to express their deep emotions. It's like buried all inside. Think the extent of it will depend on how close it squares.

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Taineberry
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posted October 17, 2011 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon square Saturn. If this guy’s experience is anything like my own it is likely that the love he received as a child came with a lot of conditions attached, which makes it really hard to trust people’s motives later on in life. As a result, emotions are very guarded and disciplined. It is almost impossible for a Moon square Saturn person to open up emotionally to another, unless that person opens up to you first, AND they have earned your trust. This may take a long time. Moon square Saturn is a master of emotional defense and emotional self-control, but this does not mean to say that they are cold and unfeeling. In actual fact, feelings may run very deep and, once formed, are very enduring.

Moon square Saturn is not necessarily chronically depressed/ unhappy / suffering low self-esteem (I am none of these). I am quite happy and comfortable with being a private person, and I take my time before expressing deep felt emotions (surface emotion is ok for me to express freely), as I cannot ignore my stern inner voice warning me that the other person may not be trustworthy or sincere and they may use whatever I tell them against me at some point. Experience has taught me that a lot of people are emotionally manipulative or will ride roughshod over your heart if they get half a chance in order to boost their own ego!! Sometimes not, as well (there are good people out there), but better safe than sorry. This chronic wariness is something I just accept, and honestly, I feel very uncomfortable around people who gush with emotion as I immediately feel it is probably fleeting and superficial – not real. I enjoy personal relationships that mature slowly, and where the other person backs up their emotional expression with behavior that is congruent with what they say they feel over a period of time. For me, it is essential that the other person does take time to earn my trust and is comfortable with taking the lead in opening up on an emotional level first (before I do).

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AscTaurus
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posted October 17, 2011 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Saturn in Pisces on people who have a strict adherence/ following to a certain religious/philosophical ideal.

I am not saying that your boyfriend is one of those, not at all. I am just suggesting that the Moon squaring this Saturn placement, may suggest strict protocol adhrence form the moon(for good or ill).

There are many interpretations of moon-Saturn square:

He could have very strong/rigid ideals or perspectives that he tries to emulate. Tough or as unrealistic as they may be, Saturn will make sure that he doesn't stop trying.

There could also be a strong need for intimacy(moon) from a communication/relating perspective.

But that intimacy is blocked from the perspective of Saturn-because Saturn is unrealistic on what facet of communicating the other party should be(pisces). Or that Saturn fears complete merger(pisces) in the event that it suffocates the detached and flighty moon(gemini)

He could be an intellectual snob(gemini) that simply will not settle for people who are not world -renowned or knowledgeable in many subjects (pisces is also rules by Jupiter).

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mintgirl123
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posted October 17, 2011 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
I have Moon square Saturn. If this guy’s experience is anything like my own it is likely that the love he received as a child came with a lot of conditions attached, which makes it really hard to trust people’s motives later on in life. As a result, emotions are very guarded and disciplined. It is almost impossible for a Moon square Saturn person to open up emotionally to another, unless that person opens up to you first, AND they have earned your trust. This may take a long time. Moon square Saturn is a master of emotional defense and emotional self-control, but this does not mean to say that they are cold and unfeeling. In actual fact, feelings may run very deep and, once formed, are very enduring.

Moon square Saturn is not necessarily chronically depressed/ unhappy / suffering low self-esteem (I am none of these). I am quite happy and comfortable with being a private person, and I take my time before expressing deep felt emotions (surface emotion is ok for me to express freely), as I cannot ignore my stern inner voice warning me that the other person may not be trustworthy or sincere and they may use whatever I tell them against me at some point. Experience has taught me that a lot of people are emotionally manipulative or will ride roughshod over your heart if they get half a chance in order to boost their own ego!! Sometimes not, as well (there are good people out there), but better safe than sorry. This chronic wariness is something I just accept, and honestly, I feel very uncomfortable around people who gush with emotion as I immediately feel it is probably fleeting and superficial – not real. I enjoy personal relationships that mature slowly, and where the other person backs up their emotional expression with behavior that is congruent with what they say they feel over a period of time. For me, it is essential that the other person does take time to earn my trust and is comfortable with taking the lead in opening up on an emotional level first (before I do).


I have this squared (loosely though--7ish degrees) and I can identify with all of this too. Doesn't make us cold lol, it makes us serious about expressing emotions (which I personally think is a good thing). I too find it ridiculous when people proclaim their feelings in a grandiose manner, esp straight away. I find it fake and know they don't mean it.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 17, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw! Thanks, Doreen

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Doreen
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posted October 18, 2011 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:

Haha. Tell her to encourage him to verbalize his emotions when they hit, not after analysis or stuffing them away, to feel em through, he might be prone to anxiety so this would help. Saturn in Pisces also needs to be involved in the arts. If he feels a good mental bond with someone he will open up.


Thank you Lonake you're another person who's posts I enjoy reading very informative

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Doreen
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posted October 18, 2011 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
I have Moon square Saturn. If this guy’s experience is anything like my own it is likely that the love he received as a child came with a lot of conditions attached, which makes it really hard to trust people’s motives later on in life. As a result, emotions are very guarded and disciplined. It is almost impossible for a Moon square Saturn person to open up emotionally to another, unless that person opens up to you first, AND they have earned your trust. This may take a long time. Moon square Saturn is a master of emotional defense and emotional self-control, but this does not mean to say that they are cold and unfeeling. In actual fact, feelings may run very deep and, once formed, are very enduring.

Moon square Saturn is not necessarily chronically depressed/ unhappy / suffering low self-esteem (I am none of these). I am quite happy and comfortable with being a private person, and I take my time before expressing deep felt emotions (surface emotion is ok for me to express freely), as I cannot ignore my stern inner voice warning me that the other person may not be trustworthy or sincere and they may use whatever I tell them against me at some point. Experience has taught me that a lot of people are emotionally manipulative or will ride roughshod over your heart if they get half a chance in order to boost their own ego!! Sometimes not, as well (there are good people out there), but better safe than sorry. This chronic wariness is something I just accept, and honestly, I feel very uncomfortable around people who gush with emotion as I immediately feel it is probably fleeting and superficial – not real. I enjoy personal relationships that mature slowly, and where the other person backs up their emotional expression with behavior that is congruent with what they say they feel over a period of time. For me, it is essential that the other person does take time to earn my trust and is comfortable with taking the lead in opening up on an emotional level first (before I do).


Thank you Taineberry

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Doreen
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posted October 18, 2011 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I see Saturn in Pisces on people who have a strict adherence/ following to a certain religious/philosophical ideal.

I am not saying that your boyfriend is one of those, not at all. I am just suggesting that the Moon squaring this Saturn placement, may suggest strict protocol adhrence form the moon(for good or ill).

There are many interpretations of moon-Saturn square:

He could have very strong/rigid ideals or perspectives that he tries to emulate. Tough or as unrealistic as they may be, Saturn will make sure that he doesn't stop trying.

There could also be a strong need for intimacy(moon) from a communication/relating perspective.

But that intimacy is blocked from the perspective of Saturn-because Saturn is unrealistic on what facet of communicating the other party should be(pisces). Or that Saturn fears complete merger(pisces) in the event that it suffocates the detached and flighty moon(gemini)

He could be an intellectual snob(gemini) that simply will not settle for people who are not world -renowned or knowledgeable in many subjects (pisces is also rules by Jupiter).


Oh OK Than you not my boyfriend a friends daughters boy friend she is very close to me I'm 61 IF I had a boyfriend my daughter wouldn't approve

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Doreen
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posted October 18, 2011 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Moon is also square Uranus argh I feel sorry for that poor girl

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted October 18, 2011 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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