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CosmicKarma360
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posted October 16, 2011 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 16, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When your Saturn is in your romantic partner's eighth house, you are likely to disagree about which assets should be individual and which are better held in common between you. Your moods may not seem to be matched and you may also find your sexual attitudes and approach to be very different from your partner’s ideas about intimacy. When your relationship partner’s Saturn is in your eighth house, you may find him or her restrictive when it comes to joint financial matters. Issues about sharing and intimacy can stimulate your apprehension about what you don’t know about your partner and cause you to feel that he or she is keeping secrets from you.

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Saturn here tends to worry about money and resources just like in the opposite, the second house. The Saturn person may be very strict about these matters. Emotional and sexual intimacy may be affected. Fear of change, loss, death and other experiences that bring life-altering transformations.

It can also show past live karma to be waiting to resolve between you.

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posted October 16, 2011 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 16, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few times, being both H8 and Saturn person.
The Saturn person was suspicious of H8 person, feeling like they had to keep a close eye on them. Will get close to H8 person, but found it hard to get the intimacy to get too close, maybe cos of the underlying feeling that they had to get H8 completely figured out, analyzing their motives/actions, hence the above suspicion. I haven't found this to be a placement that is easily trusting in synastry, from the Saturn person's perspective. The H8 person is more open to them, the Saturn person reads the H8 person's openness as somewhat of a weakness, like an invitation to dive into the deepest parts of H8, so their manner to H8 can be surprising. Surprisingly paranoid, surprisingly lustful. This has to be read along with other placements/aspects (you know that). And then also if it's romantic then the Saturn person found it difficult to approach the H8 person in a direct manner, because their feelings for them exist in a murky atmosphere where nothing is obvious, so the romantic approach often took H8 person by surprise, stealing a kiss all of a sudden in an elevator (a place where the H8 person would not be able to run, you get my drift), there's a feeling of wanting to hold H8 person captive. What else...H8 person has good insight into Saturn's insecurities, etc. but Saturn finds it difficult to drop the paranoia, etc. and let H8 person in.

Does this fit with your synastry? I'm writing from my experience. I went on here asking for insight about it, it took some yrs but now I have enough data to base my analysis on. I'd have to meet more people I have it with to confirm some other things I've found with it.

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posted October 16, 2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
When your relationship partner’s Saturn is in your eighth house, you may find him or her restrictive when it comes to joint financial matters. Issues about sharing and intimacy can stimulate your apprehension about what you don’t know about your partner and cause you to feel that he or she is keeping secrets from you.

My experience (both ways) was the opposite, the Saturn person thinks H8 is keeping secrets. Saturn person wants to corner the market on what is going on with the 8th of the other, their sexuality, their deep thoughts, their motives, Saturn wants hold of all of it. For what purpose, it depends. Could be to help H8 person with 8th house issues, could be for manipulation. Saturn turns a bit cold-hearted here. But it all depends as they say on how someone wants to use their chart.

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posted October 16, 2011 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's probably not a good thing. Could indicate lack of emotional intimacy.

On the reverse side it could indicate a deep emotional bond.

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posted October 17, 2011 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 17, 2011 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn represents so many different things, so does the eighth house. Some of the things Saturn represents are responsibility and seriousness. Put that in someone else's eighth house and it means that they could take the relationship and the person very seriously and are all about bonding and becoming one with that person to some extent - which could *seem* like clingy to someone who is the type that doesn't take their relationships seriously and is flighty, or just isn't mature enough or in a place in their own life where that kind of thing is something they can appreciate because they just aren't ready for it.

My bet is to look at the guy's chart for any kind of strong Gemini activity, or even an Aquarian bent to their chart, and even something as subtle as looking to see what signs are on the cusps of the 5th, 7th and 8th houses. Because yeah, to someone like that, someone's Saturn falling in their 8th is going to feel suffocating and frightening as hell - they just want someone to roll around in a bed with and take to parties with them on weekends.

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posted October 17, 2011 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would Saturn in the 8th be similar to Saturn in the 5th synastry

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posted October 17, 2011 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ooooh! Interesting! Yes, from what I can gather, the Saturn person was pretty suspicious of H8. The woman was the one with the Saturn, plus she has her Moon conjunct Saturn in her natal (both in Virgo, too). Both landed in his H8. She was clingy and definitely had the feeling that she wasn't enough for him. Every time he took a business trip, she would be freaking, at least on the inside. They've broken up now.

Yea Saturn in mine needed to keep tabs on H8 for personal security reasons, wanted to know them inside and out, but mainly for intelligence purposes just in case H8 turned into an enemy. Others would probably feel that as an undercurrent. I have Moon/Pluto and my perceptions of undercurrents feel as strong as the main current so with the things I write on LL I should prob express that but I often don't...I can hardly perceive the difference as I feel both pretty strongly.

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posted October 17, 2011 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 17, 2011 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Yea Saturn in mine needed to keep tabs on H8 for personal security reasons, wanted to know them inside and out, but mainly for intelligence purposes just in case H8 turned into an enemy. Others would probably feel that as an undercurrent. I have Moon/Pluto and my perceptions of undercurrents feel as strong as the main current so with the things I write on LL I should prob express that but I often don't...I can hardly perceive the difference as I feel both pretty strongly.

Hhhmmm... So if I'm understanding correctly, Saturn would be triggered, or somehow stimulated by sitting in H8, and maybe not in a positive way? I mean, I know it would depend on aspects, the rest of the chart, etc... But is there something about H8 that possibly brings out the more negative parts of Saturn? Or is it that Saturn is just like that My first impression is that Saturn in H8 would mean "restrictive". Trying to take that house and immediately impose rules and boundaries.

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posted October 17, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Saturn is in the eighth house, it may not be a good time to borrow money from the bank(since eighth house deals with other people's money/posessions) nor borrow anything of value belonging to someone else with the intention of "bringing it right back".

At around this time, people are more cautious and conservative about what they lend and to whom. At this time penalties for non-payment of what is due may be heavy and extensive.

People who norrow or lend money to you may be looking to make huge returns in the long-term-through interest charges.


In relationships, the 2nd house(self-worth) is mirrored by the 8th house(merging with another).

It may not be a good time to initiate sex as one/both of you could be having intimacy issues. Either, one or both parties are treating their sex-life like a business deal(Saturn) expecting long-term "returns".

Or one/ both parties may be feeling particularly sensitive about their body(2nd house possession) and giving it to another(8th house merging)as emotional empathy has not yet been established.

There is still too much of a business-like feel about the relationship between both/one of you.

The signs will show where this perspective is likely to be.

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posted October 17, 2011 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
But is there something about H8 that possibly brings out the more negative parts of Saturn?

I personally have found that it is something like you said about the 8th house person.

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posted October 17, 2011 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Bingo! He's Aquarius, and she's Taurus Sun, Leo rising. He seemed to be pretty light about the relationship, which puzzled me why they eventually moved in together. Then one year after living together, he had her move out.


Yeah, and now finding out that both her sun and ascendant are in fixed signs...

It's pretty obvious. She's not really the type to jump from guy to guy and wants something committed anyway, that's just her nature. Her Saturn falling in his 8th, just strengthened that. And obviously he isn't really that type or at least isn't at the point where he's ready to do that kind of thing so he started looking for the door.

They were just a mismatch on a very fundamental level. Honestly it's for the best that they broke up and hopefully she'll find someone who takes relationships seriously like she does to put down roots with soon.

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posted October 18, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 30, 2012 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AthenaLass     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
When Saturn is in the eighth house, it may not be a good time to borrow money from the bank(since eighth house deals with other people's money/posessions) nor borrow anything of value belonging to someone else with the intention of "bringing it right back".

At around this time, people are more cautious and conservative about what they lend and to whom. At this time penalties for non-payment of what is due may be heavy and extensive.

People who norrow or lend money to you may be looking to make huge returns in the long-term-through interest charges.


In relationships, the 2nd house(self-worth) is mirrored by the 8th house(merging with another).

It may not be a good time to initiate sex as one/both of you could be having intimacy issues. Either, one or both parties are treating their sex-life like a business deal(Saturn) expecting long-term "returns".

Or one/ both parties may be feeling particularly sensitive about their body(2nd house possession) and giving it to another(8th house merging)as emotional empathy has not yet been established.

There is still too much of a business-like feel about the relationship between both/one of you.

The signs will show where this perspective is likely to be.


What about if it's not only your Saturn that conjuncts his 8th house? Like my Scorpio Mars / Saturn / Pluto all conjuncts his 8th house? Are these good aspects to have? Also, his Moon in Pisces conjuncts my 2nd house.. and my Moon in Cancer conjuncts his Sun / Mars / Mercury / 4th house / 5th house :-/

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posted June 07, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can mans Saturn in womans 8th house show problems with physical intimacy?

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posted February 29, 2016 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alkmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Learned a great deal from this discussion...

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