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lindisfarne
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posted November 06, 2011 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mean to generalize here.. but why any time I meet a Virgo male sun or a guy with a lot of planets in Virgo he seems to be seething within this deep resentment towards the opposite sex? I used to be friends with a guy.. Virgo sun, Leo ASC Virgo moon and venus.. he was attractive so I never really understood why he had a problem getting laid. Until I spoke to him frequently. His obvious resentment and hatred towards women was strongly evident. Which didn't make sense to me, he was deeply attached to his mother.. and hated his father ( i thought oedipus complex) I tied his inexperience with women to his misogynistic beliefs. I won't go into detail but he has extremely unrealistic expectations towards women and he basically thinks they are not real human beings.. Yeah don''t ask me how or why I ever thought this guy was interesting, a lot of sexual tension between us but I really despise him. Not because of his sun sigh but his misogyny. Not to mention he thought so highly of himself which would always result in our verbal pickering, with my heavy aquarius placements and my opposing his ASC

I don't know TOO much about Virgo's (mostly women) but any time I meet a virgo sun or a guy with a lot of virgo placements he seems to have this obvious hate towards women... Any ideas why? I know the sign is related to perfectionism.. I also asked one of my friends what she thought about misogyny and astrology and she specifically mentioned "Virgo men". I want to know if theres some relation to it..

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lindisfarne
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posted November 06, 2011 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has Mars in Cancer, Virgo Mercury too..
I really don't want to generalize but i just can't help but notice the men who were women haters that I met were mostly born under Virgo or have some serious planets in Virgo.

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posted November 06, 2011 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah Virgo's are generally weak. I agree.

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lindisfarne
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posted November 06, 2011 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
yeah Virgo's are generally weak. I agree.

bAhaha well I wouldn't say they are weak. Sorry if that's the message you got. I was specifically wondering about Virgo men and guys with a lot of placements in Virgo. I don't personally know Virgo women but on a superficial manner they were always well kempt and very attractive, smart and to themselves.
I was wondering if being a woman hater was related to Virgo with males

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posted November 06, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 06, 2011 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a partner who has a gigantic Virgo/8th house Stellium, and i can assure you he loves women.

out of the guys i have been involved with who i have the birth info, one of my exes, who was a Pisces, was the biggest misogynist. i cannot generalise on this because he's the only Pisces i know well enough to judge. the only planet he has in Virgo is moon, but unfortunately i don't have his birth time so this is most likely wrong. anyway it was very Pisces, in the sense he loved the idea of women, but intelligent women he admired always made him be aware of his own immaturity, so deep down he really looked down on women and was convinced they were all stupid and trivial. twisted!

back to my partner, he's the most rational person (regarding world view and his place, not when we are fighting ) i've ever known. he's very wise, if i might say so.

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posted November 06, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know several Virgo men and they all love women....actually they're bordering on being man-wh0res . But those are Virgo suns.

My little brother is a Virgo ASC w/ Virgo Venus (Scorp sun/Leo moon) and he is SUPER PICKY when it comes to dating. He doesn't resent women, he just knows his type and even though he's only 20 he picks and chooses delicately.

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posted November 06, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
yeah Virgo's are generally weak. I agree.

Both male and female virgos hate weakness..we admire strong people and we are strong ourselves. You couldn't be farther from the truth.

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posted November 06, 2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL virgos are one of the strongest signs. We just have our weapons hidden that's all. You don't need to be dangerous and show it off to the world. It's called quiet strength.

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posted November 06, 2011 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Virgo bfriend, (sun, moon, merc,venus) is far from a woman hater. Is a huge flirt and spoiles me to death. Has a great relationship with his mom, (I think a Cancer asc..dont know birth time.)

The only woman-hater I have ever known per sign is Cancer males. Especially if they have "mommy issues."

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posted November 06, 2011 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leonine8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am married to a respectful Virgo. There must be something else in that guy's natal.

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posted November 06, 2011 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 06, 2011 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, you would have to look at the condition of the Moon and Venus in a man's chart to see how he really feels about women (specifically his mother), so his Sun Sign has little to do with it at all.

Second of all, there are misogynists and racists and douche bags of every sign. On the whole, I would not say that Virgos are more misogynist than others.

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posted November 06, 2011 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a Virgo father and years of having many Virgos as close friends, male and female, I have observed that they are very, very critical of others. They also don’t discriminate – a Virgo man will be openly critical about women, they don’t hide that. I think that might be misinterpreted as being misogynistic. They also critique other men but when it comes to talking/chatting/gossiping with women, the topic of conversation is usually about other women and mainly about people who are not close to them, like celebrities, the “arch rival” or women with “reputations”. They are great to gossip with because they will notice things you didn’t! However, I haven’t heard one talk down about their mothers, wives, ex-wives or girlfriends - they have respect for them. (I stuck “ex-wife” in there because my parents divorced bitterly but I never heard him say one foul thing about my mother in the 20+ years since they divorced!)

I have actually found that more Leo men are misogynistic. I think it is because they like to be the dominant partner. It goes beyond just gossipy chitchat with them, it’s like they actually feel like women are beneath them. I have dated 3 Leo men (two with Virgo rising actually) and they have all felt like my career and aspirations were extraneous. I was not able to have a real conversation with them about my life and if I tried I would get a pat on the head and a “that’s cute, she’s trying to function in the Man’s World...Now let's have sex”-type of attitude.

Even though I love Leo men, this is something I can’t deal with and it is why I always want some earth (Cap) or some water (Scorpio) to make them more realistic and empathetic.

ETA: I have also noticed that Leo men are the cheatingest cheaters who ever cheated and they have no shame...if that isn't misogynistic I don't know what is...

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posted November 06, 2011 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the OP - what aspects are going on with his Moon and his Venus? Because what you described doesn't really sound like a Virgo to me at all - my first love is a Virgo and actually seems the opposite of that guy; I've also gotten mixed up with other men with inner planets in the sign and they weren't like that either, so I'm thinking there's other, mitigating factors in the misogynist's chart.

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posted November 06, 2011 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My biggest misogynistic pet peeve is actually Pisces Moon.

I have no idea why - every Pisces Moon man I meet has an issue with women. They are very different to the girls with this placement.

Sometimes Leo-influence can come across this way as well.

I haven't noticed it with Virgo.

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posted November 06, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OpiumBreast     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo's are the best person to annoy by wearing mismatched clothes.

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posted November 07, 2011 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^lol

and libra I think

I have both placements, and I do honestly cringe inwardly when I see people with really bad fashion sense. =X

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posted November 07, 2011 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm liking all the standing up for Virgo Suns.

I am not a misogynist. I love women and find them for the most part more fascinating than men.

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posted November 07, 2011 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about misogynistic BUT all the male Virgo suns and risings that I have met so far have admitted - one way or the other - that they have masochistic tendencies.

[figuratively or literally speaking]

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posted November 07, 2011 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I don't mean to generalize here.. but why any time I meet a Virgo male sun or a guy with a lot of planets in Virgo he seems to be seething within this deep resentment towards the opposite sex? I used to be friends with a guy.. Virgo sun, Leo ASC Virgo moon and venus.. he was attractive so I never really understood why he had a problem getting laid. Until I spoke to him frequently. His obvious resentment and hatred towards women was strongly evident. Which didn't make sense to me, he was deeply attached to his mother.. and hated his father ( i thought oedipus complex) I tied his inexperience with women to his misogynistic beliefs. I won't go into detail but he has extremely unrealistic expectations towards women and he basically thinks they are not real human beings.. Yeah don''t ask me how or why I ever thought this guy was interesting, a lot of sexual tension between us but I really despise him. Not because of his sun sigh but his misogyny. Not to mention he thought so highly of himself which would always result in our verbal pickering, with my heavy aquarius placements and my opposing his ASC

I don't know TOO much about Virgo's (mostly women) but any time I meet a virgo sun or a guy with a lot of virgo placements he seems to have this obvious hate towards women... Any ideas why? I know the sign is related to perfectionism.. I also asked one of my friends what she thought about misogyny and astrology and she specifically mentioned "Virgo men". I want to know if theres some relation to it..


In my experience, the Leos I've known (gay and straight) while being huge romantics in theory - have usually hinted at or straight out said they don't trust women. When they're around women they like, it's a peculiar kind and often times one that's submissive. HOWEVER! Insecure people in general are the only ones who show a dislike for a whole gender. It goes under the ridiculousness of the girls who "can't" get along with other girls, or "don't". Seriously?

That being said I've found Virgo men (or guys with Virgo placements) to be very helpful and polite. They like to gossip like a 15-year-old girl lol. It's almost as if they're the textbook description of Leos and Leos are Virgos to an extent.

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posted November 07, 2011 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Choc:
I don't know about misogynistic BUT all the male Virgo suns and risings that I have met so far have admitted - one way or the other - that they have masochistic tendencies.

[figuratively or literally speaking]


Being a perfectionist or striving for perfection is kind of masochistic though, isn’t it? (As someone with Saturn in Virgo I know this all too well…)

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posted November 07, 2011 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my aforementioned Virgo is really sadistic, our arguments drive me insane sometimes.

but he likes to gossip with girls too. he prefers women's company to men's

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posted November 07, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've met one Virgo who was misogynistic to the extreme.
But that comment about girls not getting along with other girls...What do you mean by that? There are the hen-party catty girls that are jealous of everybody and then there are my kind. I can't stand them for those very reasons. Plus they're frivolous. I've learned the hard way I'll never get anything good from a female, for long anyway. But I have Moon Square Neptune and I've been on the receiving end of some the most negative female traits there are, starting with those in my own family. I'm pretty misogynistic for a woman. LOL.

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posted November 07, 2011 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
I'm pretty misogynistic for a woman. LOL.

I understand this, as I have been treated like crap by women, starting with my family, as well. I have that darn Moon conjunct Pluto and Moon square Venus. Are you a Leo Sun? I have read (and experienced) that Leo women, by just being themselves, pose a threat to other women. I am triple-y blessed in this area so I have learned to just tend to keep women at arm's length. We can be friends, I just won't let you in...

ETA: For myself it seems to be getting better as I get older, I know who I can and can't trust.

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