posted November 07, 2011 11:04 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
There is theory that Taurus rules Earth instead of Venus. What do you think of this theory?

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I've read about it and can see the potential in that observation. Venus ruling Libra and Taurus never really made logical sense to me. However in my opinion the archetype of Aphrodite the goddess of love connects to the planet Venus but not to Libra. Athena goddess of wisdom, justice, war and the arts, reminds me more of Libra then Aphrodite. In that sense since Aphrodite rules, love, beauty, fertility and pleasure I'd connect that to Taurus. Libra's are artistically inclined towards beauty but they are very interested in fairness and social justice. I've never met a Libra who wasn't even a tinge concerned with the greater good. Taurus enjoys the pleasures of beauty and the good life as an end in itself. They are interested in stability and accumulating wealth, and living life with all the pleasures they can acquire. Fine wines, quality clothing, very sensual and interested in all kinds of bodily pleasures.

posted November 07, 2011 11:06 AM            

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 07, 2011 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Well considering I use geocentric charts only (heliocentric is just for funsies), Id say its a moot point. The Earth isn't a player in geocentric astrology.

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true, but for giggles sake...its an interesting idea

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 07, 2011 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
The earth is in the middle, not on the outside with the other planets. I've looked at many a Taurus and Sagittarius riser doing well at work, and the transits from Venus to natal Venus always show that Venus does in fact rule Taurus. I can't tell you how many hundreds or thousands of charts I've looked at.

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posted November 07, 2011 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I've read about it and can see the potential in that observation. Venus ruling Libra and Taurus never really made logical sense to me. However in my opinion the archetype of Aphrodite the goddess of love connects to the planet Venus but not to Libra. Athena goddess of wisdom, justice, war and the arts, reminds me more of Libra then Aphrodite. In that sense since Aphrodite rules, love, beauty, fertility and pleasure I'd connect that to Taurus. Libra's are artistically inclined towards beauty but they are very interested in fairness and social justice. I've never met a Libra who wasn't even a tinge concerned with the greater good. Taurus enjoys the pleasures of beauty and the good life as an end in itself. They are interested in stability and accumulating wealth, and living life with all the pleasures they can acquire. Fine wines, quality clothing, very sensual and interested in all kinds of bodily pleasures.

Maybe it could be that Athena is the archetype for Libra co-ruled by Venus and Aphrodite/Venus for Taurus co- ruled by the Earth. As a Libra sun I can substantiate that assumption in regards to myself.

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posted November 07, 2011 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i've thought about this but i don't know if it'd be Taurus.. i think taurus would still be ruled by venus but libra, would be the sign ruled by earth.. scorpio and virgo were once upon a time, the same sign which is why they both have a very similar glyph.. the sign was then split up by man and libra was added in between to really balance out everything we now see in a chart so i think that most everything in libra, has some connection to something man-made.

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posted November 07, 2011 03:26 PM            

All planets revolve around the earth from an astrological point of view. The only activity you will find is here on the very crowded earth.

posted November 07, 2011 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
The earth is in the centre of a natal chart. We are on the earth. Astrology says that the planets (around us, in the sky) influence us, here on the earth. As above, so below.

All planets revolve around the earth from an astrological point of view. The only activity you will find is here on the very crowded earth.

You will also notice the findings of many solar systems where a similar number of planets rotate around an earth like planet.
This is why Earth cannot rule Taurus. One planet has to be in the centre.

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Do you think earth rules something?

I think I see your point: in order to have a chart there has to be a point were everything revolves around it and since we are on earth that point is earth so earth cannot have a ruler? is this what you are saying?

posted November 07, 2011 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
The earth is in the centre of a natal chart. We are on the earth. Astrology says that the planets (around us, in the sky) influence us, here on the earth. As above, so below.

All planets revolve around the earth from an astrological point of view. The only activity you will find is here on the very crowded earth.

You will also notice the findings of many solar systems where a similar number of planets rotate around an earth like planet.
This is why Earth cannot rule Taurus. One planet has to be in the centre.

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Wouldn't all the planets still revolve around the Sun astrologically speaking as in astronomy. Some astrologers consider the ascendant our earth sign because that's the precise moment we entered this reality. And in esoteric astrology our Ascendant represents our souls journey and path in this lifetime, which correlates to the earth being of considerable importance.

posted November 07, 2011 05:53 PM            

Ie:
In geocentric charts I am an Aqua Sun, Libra Moon, Aqua Mercury, Pisces Venus, Sag Mars, etc.

In heliocentric charts, my Earth/Moon (which are conjunct obviously, because the Moon revolves around the Earth) are in Leo, Mercury in Leo, Venus in Gemini, Mars in Scorpio

Not only that but the two charts have vastly different aspects: My heliocentric chart has a t-square with Mercury, Pluto and Jupiter, which doesn't exist at all in my geocentric chart.

And if you practice Western Astrology, you would also realize that our zodiac has little basis in actual astronomy. We use the tropical zodiac, which is pretty far off from the actual ecliptic zodiac.

posted November 08, 2011 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Around last December I started a thread discussing weather or not the new planet Eris rules or co-rules Libra... after all Eris' theme has do with a beauty contest, among other things…
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Hi Lotis,

Thanks for sharing this, it was truly fascinating to read since my husband is a Libra and Eris describes him to the tea.

However, husband is a libra with mercury and moon in scorpio. I always thought his strategic thinking was combination of libra creativity and intellectuality with scorpio's dark humor, desire for vengeance which translates into desire for justice bc of libra sun but mars in scorpio wants to take it into his own hands to restore balance and his own ideas on how to do this in secretive way.

Eris sounds very much to me like a libra with mars in scorpio is what I am saying bc it sounds exactly like my husband.

I feel that perhaps Eris rules both venus and mars. Maybe Eris has to do with psychological androgyny (a person in touch with his female and male side). It feels Venusian and martian simultaneously. Very interesting reading. Thanks!

posted November 08, 2011 05:03 AM            

I have never in my life read such an objective, precise and accurate description of a libra, this sounds exactly like my husband. I love how you write and communicate, its very clear, methodological, elaborate and complete.

Now that you have described the differences of how libra and scorpio operate when face with challenges, it makes perfect sense. My ex is a scorpio and you are right Libra is more cerebral about it and scorpio more intuitive about it.

posted November 08, 2011 05:07 AM            

What sign do you have in mercury and in what house?