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Topic: Scorpios are you manipulative/prone to manipulation in relationships?
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lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 12:16 PM
I am friends with an astrologer and she wanted to look at my partners natal chart and she specifically talked about something called a south node," I feel he is used to being in relationships (South Node, the past) with powerful people in some way as his Scorpio Pluto conjuncts his South Node.This could have actually happened in a previous lifetime as the South Node tells us where we have been, The NN tells us where we are heading.And the North Node is not a comfortable zone North Node is not a comfortable zone for us all.It is a "hint" of what is to come in the future.I feel that possibly manipulative relationships have been part of his past, maybe in former or in this present lifetime. Possibly he allows himself to be manipulated by others that "played" with his affection? Pluto can be extremely manipulative. Is that why he fears being alone?As he is accustomed to being in relationships where he has been manipulated in some way? Powerfully manipulated possibly?I feel relationships have carried much weight in his life, both past and current lifetimes. I think he will open up to you only when HE is ready as Scorpio doesn't like "giving" personal information out unless there is an unwavering bond of trust.This can take years for Scorpio to trust another. This is probably why, and this is good, that you haven't been "prying" about his personal history as that only makes a Scorpio want to leave.When others question too much, I always suggest moving very slowly with Scorpio as this is the only way to become a friend or mate.It can literally take YEARS to win the trust from a Scorpio.He is blessed to have you in his life. And love that is bonded is forever." Okay I'm curious what is it about a South/North node? He has South node Aries and north node Scorpio in house 3. My astrologer mentioned all of this and it does apply. He does hide things and I intuitively feel with my moon and Venus in Pisces that he has been Hurt badly by many people specifically women. I don't probe him either I do let him come to me and when he does I listen. Scorpio Influenced people does this apply go you? Secretiveness? What's the best way to prove to you that you are a trustworthy person?What significance does a south node/north node have? IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 4459 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 08, 2011 12:23 PM
yes, scorpio is highly prone to secretiveness and scorpio is ruled by pluto, planet of nuclear power so there could be manipulation in there, depending on scorpios choice of use of his or her ruling planetif a scorpio was hurt badly by a certain person it will most definitely take years to be able to trust someone like that kind of person personally, i really, really dont like older mexican men for reasons i wont state as well as much older men of any race....like elderly, i dont trust them at all, also wont mention reasons i also majorly despise the military for personal reasons, so i'll stay as far as i possibly can from anyone who is in any branch of the military and refuse to even consider being in a relationship with a jarhead and sorry for the way i dont seem to make it flow...when i get heated about a specific thing i tend to not make sense
------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 533 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 12:27 PM
To the OP - that's one, personal take on it. Don't take it as gospel fact. Simply because, every last thing in a chart, symbolizes a bunch of different things. She read his chart and immediately jumped to the conclusion that he must be manipulative, when it could just be that his past life was pretty d.amn Plutonian.IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 4459 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 08, 2011 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: To the OP - that's one, personal take on it. Don't take it as gospel fact. Simply because, every last thing in a chart, symbolizes a bunch of different things. She read his chart and immediately jumped to the conclusion that he must be manipulative, when it could just be that his past life was pretty d.amn Plutonian.
this is true
------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 12:38 PM
She talked about other things in his chart that contribute to this like his chiron and his ego (sun) etci was just curious about the Scorpio bit. IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 12:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by NickiG: yes, scorpio is highly prone to secretiveness and scorpio is ruled by pluto, planet of nuclear power so there could be manipulation in there, depending on scorpios choice of use of his or her ruling planetif a scorpio was hurt badly by a certain person it will most definitely take years to be able to trust someone like that kind of person personally, i really, really dont like older mexican men for reasons i wont state as well as much older men of any race....like elderly, i dont trust them at all, also wont mention reasons i also majorly despise the military for personal reasons, so i'll stay as far as i possibly can from anyone who is in any branch of the military and refuse to even consider being in a relationship with a jarhead and sorry for the way i dont seem to make it flow...when i get heated about a specific thing i tend to not make sense
Does it involve some kind of abuse, sexual? Maybe you were molested. Thats just what I sense. It sucks that you are now apprehensive over an entire male race.IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 4459 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 08, 2011 12:50 PM
for me, if i were to trust someone i normally wouldnt i would first have to want to trust then the person has to not do anything that i would expect him to do....if its an older man, he cannot touch me or talk to me sexually...if its someone in the military, the less anger he shows the better (mostly because i would fear for my life) and he cannot work around any kind of chemicals (because i would fear for his life)the SN/NN usually shows the past and future respectively....i have moon conjunct SN and IC so i'v had a lot of heartache in the past and i have NN conjucnt MC so my career is connected with my future ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 4459 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 08, 2011 12:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Does it involve some kind of abuse, sexual? Maybe you were molested. Thats just what I sense. It sucks that you are now apprehensive over an entire male race.
i was actually (damn my gem asc!! it always makes me talk, LOL) the first and most prominent time in my life was with an older man who the neighborhood kids referred to as the "candyman" and i trusted him too much and other times i was simply touched, not nearly as badly as the candyman....but this doesnt have anything to do with the military, mind you ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 452 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 02:48 PM
Duh e.eScorpio Sun, Mars, Pluto 8H conjunction No of course not, but hey why should i even bother you seem to already have your mind made up about what kind of people we are :/ IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Duh? e.eScorpio Sun, Mars, Pluto 8H conjunction No of course not, but hey why should i even bother you seem to already have your mind made up about what kind of people we are :/
Im asking a question, this has nothing to do with my other thread, Get over your grudge it's really boring.
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Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 452 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 08, 2011 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by lindisfarne: Im asking a question, this has nothing to do with my other thread, Get over your grudge it's really boring.
Lol no grudges here, I don't even know you. What purpose would it serve to have a grudge over someone on the internet? I just notice a lot of your "questions" relate to ignorant one sided conclusions. It's not like if you asked more general questions that didn't involve one sign being labeled in a negative matter that i would act in this harsh exterior. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 756 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 08, 2011 03:55 PM
If he has his South Node in Aries, its impossible that he'd have NN in Scorpio. The Nodes are an axis. They will always be in opposite signs.Your astrologer friend mentioned that his South Node is conjunct his Scorpio Pluto, so he probably has his South Node in Scorpio, and you just read his chart wrong. If his South Node is in Scorpio, his North Node is in Taurus. Anyway, they say watery charts are good at emotional manipulation, though I don't think having Pluto conjunct his SN is enough to make someone manipulative. IP: Logged | |