posted November 09, 2011 09:55 AM            

** Mars in the 12th**

- People with this placement may not readily recognize when people are flirting with them.

- Low sex drive.

- Lots of energy is put into uncovering the mysteries. Perhaps the person likes to read mysteries (well, that one I'd specifically attribute to Mars in Gemini - not sure about other Mars signs)

Would Mars in Gemini in the 12th give someone a lot of the same characteristics Scorpio has?

Can I still use my Mars even though it's in the 12th house? How does that work?

posted November 09, 2011 10:10 AM            

I have Mars (in Sag) in 12th myself, and you are spot on about loving to read mystery novels. I love them.

my Mars often is hidden to me (though not to others apparently, maybe because it is conjunct ASC by 2 degrees), but when things get hairy, I can rely on him to be there, and give me much more energy and strength like I ever thought I would have.
Like an endless ressource of energy, that usually is only activated if I REALLY need them.

Of course I can also be shooting in my own foot quite easily.

Mars is also conjunct Neptune, which is in 1st house, 2 degrees off the ASC to the other side, so sometimes it is not easy to decide what I really want.

my "warrior-side" comes out when it is about 12th house themes though.

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posted November 09, 2011 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One of my classic astrology books says that a 12th house planet will trump the chart, in the sense that one MUST always deal with it.
I think one must face that it will be hard, but then to look at it, with as strong a resolve as you can.
I think the 12th is similar to Retro. I have Saturn Retro conj the ASC. This is simply a bear. It hurts. It aches. I struggle so hard against self doubt BUT I do get traction, if I stick to it.

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I read it means having repressed rage, but I don't. I find I can keep my temper a lot better than most Aries' do but I'm also more evasive, elusive and mysterious than most too (I think... dunno about other people.) I wonder if it makes someone hard to read. Well no, 'cause the 12th is our OWN blindspot... not others. That would probably have to do with the 7th. In any case, how do you know what you have to "deal" with concerning that planet if you don't resonate with any of the interpretations?

posted November 09, 2011 11:08 AM            

First, definitely *no* low sex drive! I'll leave it at that

Second, yeah, there is something about being hidden and working behind the scenes. Also, don't always get recognition for accomplishments. Tend to get skipped over a lot, too. Forgotten. I always seemed to be the kid left behind. Last in line, that kind of thing.

The part I hate the most is being blamed for something that I would have *nothing* to do with. Happened a lot as a kid, not so much now. Just annoys me to no end when that happens.

The 12th seems to be almost like a cover over the Mars fire. Like having a candy that has a hard coating, but once you bite into it, it's all soft inside. Something like that! Might not be a great analogy there.

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posted November 09, 2011 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Mars in Aries in the 12th here...

First, definitely *no* low sex drive! I'll leave it at that

Second, yeah, there is something about being hidden and working behind the scenes. Also, don't always get recognition for accomplishments. Tend to get skipped over a lot, too. Forgotten. I always seemed to be the kid left behind. Last in line, that kind of thing.

The part I hate the most is being blamed for something that I would have *nothing* to do with. Happened a lot as a kid, not so much now. Just annoys me to no end when that happens.

The 12th seems to be almost like a cover over the Mars fire. Like having a candy that has a hard coating, but once you bite into it, it's all soft inside. Something like that! Might not be a great analogy there.

I'm not a huge fan of mysteries, but do love to dig deep into metaphysical topics.

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Mouth drops open.

I didn't know Mars in 12th signified getting skipped over a lot. Just the other day I was thinking "You know, I'm not shy but it seems like every time I join in a conversation, it dies quickly after." Not out of anything I say but the flow just... dies. It's always been kinda frustrating for me! And I find I am always craving recognition but I thought that was my Aries Sun, Merc, Venus coming out and that I just needed to work on not having such a big ego...

posted November 09, 2011 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hanna. I find that IF you get the right interpretations, you WILL resonate with them. The chart is always right. The reader may be wrong. the time may be wrong, even, but when you get the right chart, there is your life spread before you

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posted November 09, 2011 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
Mintgirl - You're right about that, I should clarify what I meant. I feel Mars in 12th while having a strong sex drive, doesn't really propel the person to go after what they want. So yes, you (in general) might have a strong sex drive but you let others come to you or you just fix the "problem" yourself... yes? no?

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posted November 09, 2011 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCIo_HBNjhM

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I’m not ashamed of the things that I dream
I find myself flirting with the verge of obscene
Into the unknown, I will be bold
I’m going to places I can be out of control

posted November 09, 2011 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I didn't know Mars in the 12th was getting skipped over, either. Is it because one cannot put themselves out there( hidden drive)?

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posted November 09, 2011 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Not really sure, but I know that happens/happened to me a lot. From what I've read on Mars in 12th, it has something to do with the natural energy getting smothered, so it doesn't come through the way it normally would. That results in a lack of energy coming forward, and hence, getting skipped. The energy just isn't there to be noticed. Now, I'm not a *pro* by any means, so I can be totally off about that, but I do know it has been a common problem in my life. This kind of disappearing thing. I'll be standing with a group of people, and they'll talk to each other, but literally, will look right through me and talk with each other. Kind of sad, actually! Makes me feel bad.

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Yeah! And I was telling my mom a couple weeks ago something I realized about my energy. You know, you need a certain hutzpah to attract someone, and I have an awesome personality (if I do say so myself) and am attractive but no hutzpah! My hutzpah is in the 12th house on hibernation until I don't know when!

posted November 09, 2011 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannarama:
[b]Mintgirl - You're right about that, I should clarify what I meant. I feel Mars in 12th while having a strong sex drive, doesn't really propel the person to go after what they want. So yes, you (in general) might have a strong sex drive but you let others come to you or you just fix the "problem" yourself... yes? no?

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posted November 10, 2011 12:21 AM            

When I do get recognition for things in a good way, it always takes me by surprise even though I know deep down I deserve it.

Mystery novels don't interest me very much, however metaphysical things always do.

posted November 10, 2011 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by BlueTopaz124:
I also have a 12th Mars in Sag PLUS a 12th Mercury in Scorpio...talk about feeling hidden! I always had a hard time expressing myself and getting recognition. I also got blamed unfairly for things when I was younger and had a really hard time sticking up for myself (still do sometimes, but am getting better)

When I do get recognition for things in a good way, it always takes me by surprise even though I know deep down I deserve it.

Mystery novels don't interest me very much, however metaphysical things always do.

I definitely have Sag fire and drive; in fact almost too much nervous energy and getting to sleep at night or resting can be a problem. Energy, I seem to be hardwired with a lot of it, all the time.

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That's really interesting. Did you feel like you were explaining yourself clearly and others didn't understand you, or you truly did have a hard time verbalizing your feelings/thoughts? Unless I'm on a forum or Facebook, people don't seem to understand what I'm saying a lot of the time. And Mars in 12th... I suck at sticking up for myself too! I don't read aggression in people (well of course I READ it, but being able to say 'okay, that is DEFINITELY directed towards me. Now I'm angry... you don't want to make me angry. *shirt rips*) so I never know when someone needs to be put in their place and when I need to chill out. Hmmm... Mars in 12th sure makes for a lot of misplaced aggression then I suppose?

posted August 25, 2012 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:

Also mars in 12th house actually has a strong sex drive. They just hide it and are more sneaky about it.

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posted August 25, 2012 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
SORRY everybody... anyone agree that Mars in 12th could spell lack of confidence?

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OK so this is how I see it.
Mars in 12th house lacks confidence BECAUSE of the fact they are too lazy to get out and give something a shot. It takes them a lot of mental effort to get their feet moving in the direction that is required and hence they miss the bus...and often.

That then becomes a viscious cycle of "Dang things just don't work out when I want them to." "I tried but it seems I always fail when I try." So then they start self doubting and even questioning the reason for trying.

The solution here is simple.

Whether the clock is broken are not it doesn't matter, it will always be right at least twice a day.

What does that mean? Well, when you are starting out to build confidence don't stop punching because the first punch hurt. Keep at it and the wall will fall. Keep chasing that bus and you will eventually habituate yourself to catching that bus EVERY SINGLE time.

I think mars in 12th are not unlucky or lazy perse, they simply are short sighted. We've all missed the bus and have been overlooked for a lot of what we do. So what? We continue to 'try' again and again.

I think mars in 12th just gives up far too easily.

Even in their heart, they know this. Right Hanna? You know your talents, strengths nad you also know that you need to keep trying....and yes you will get what you want in the end.