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Topic: Are these synastries special at all?
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 12, 2011 04:02 AM
  
Guy #1 
 Guy #2 
 Guy #3 
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 12, 2011 04:05 AM
The composites have sun conjunct venus but at a wide orb 8deg I think. Astro.com's astro-click portrait shows all of them as having Composite Sun c. VenusIP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 12, 2011 03:30 PM
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Leonine8
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posted November 13, 2011 12:03 AM
Looks like the first one could be a strong coonection, but you might have a bigger impact on his emotions than he does on yours.IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted November 13, 2011 01:33 AM
This is what I look for for "specialness" in synastry charts:Angle connections. ASC/DSC conjunct MC/IC etc
Vertex connections. Conjunctions or oppositions only, under 3 degrees
Sun on the angles
Moon on the angles
Sun/Moon connections, under 5 degrees
Midpoint action (under 2-3 degrees).. Sun/Moon or Venus/Mars (maybe even Venus/Pluto)
North Node/South Node connections to personal planets, conjunction or opposition only, under 5 degrees. In the first chart, you have Sun & Moon conjunct as well as Sun conjunct South Node. The composite chart has Sun conjunct Mercury, I wouldn't count the conjunction to Venus because the orb is too wide. The Moon also makes a worrisome square to Saturn, as well as Uranus. The second guy has Sun/Moon again, with his Venus conjunct your Sun/Vertex and his Vertex also close by (although, it's probably not a real birth time so then his Vertex is probably not actually there). The composite has a 10th house Sun, close to the MC, which is nice. But the Moon is in the 12th, yuck. 3rd guy has the same stuff as the 2nd guy, but with Venus conjunct MC & his MC hitting your Venus/Mars midpoint (assuming he has the correct birth time...) Again, almost the same composite as the 2nd guy but this time the Moon is conjunct the ASC (assuming he has the correct birth time) which is a lot nicer and makes for a stronger composite IMO.
So if I were to rank these I would say: Guy 3, Guy 1, Guy 2
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 13, 2011 10:21 AM
These are hypothetical birthdates I found where we had mutual venus-pluto aspects in synastry. From the few people I could possibly have that with (as I found out after I did the research) I picked these 3 birthdates as having the best synastry and composite.However I found a few sports celebrities with these birthdates and not a hint of attraction. So I think where I went wrong is the fact that there's not much really going on in the composite. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted November 13, 2011 01:30 PM
Well the sports stars you looked at probably don't have the birth times that are needed to create a "spark." The ASC/MC axises are really important for that (as well as the Vertex). Venus/Pluto, especially in your case, isn't all that special. You have that aspect with everyone in that year, and since you have it natally, everyone born within a few years of you. Obviously you don't find all of those people appealing.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 13, 2011 02:49 PM
Thanks for your response. Very thorough. How do you know that? I'm curious to know if it's from experience? Just wondering. Also, wouldn't venus square pluto only matter to me with the people it's in less than an orb of 3 with? And what about the venus trine pluto in close orb. That matters, right?IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted November 13, 2011 03:08 PM
Even if it's less than 3 degrees, it's still everyone born within a few years. Pluto moves very slowly. I find that Venus/Pluto creates FEELINGS of specialness even if it's not that special, know what I mean? And since you have it natally, it seems like you would act that way in any relationship, regardless of whether that aspect was present in the synastry.I've always been the Pluto in Venus/Pluto synastry, so I can't really say how it is for the Venus person. It's nice, makes for great sex, but it's nothing compared to other aspects I've experienced (such as Vertex conjunct ASC double whammy, or Moon/Mars double whammy). I'd say that the orb should be 1 degree for it to be more noticeable (because its more intense) to you since you've experienced this aspect with anyone born around you. In terms of aspects though, I'd say that other things like angle conjunctions are lot more important. When I make hypothetical "lover" charts, I usually look dates with double whammy Sun/Moon AND Venus/Mars. IP: Logged |
iliketurtles
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posted November 13, 2011 03:22 PM
yeah i wouldn't even bother comparing charts without birthtimes bc angles and house overlays really make quite a difference!IP: Logged |
waxlobster
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posted November 14, 2011 08:58 AM
It's only hypothetical? Ah well you see I'm glad...I only looked at the first comparison and I see a lot of problems personally. My least favourite aspect to see in synastry is Saturn closely opposed or square the other person's Mars. It can become so oppressive and restrictive and for it to work it'd be mitigated if it's a double-whammy aspect. Seeing the hard aspect from Saturn in the guy1 to Venus AND Mars in girl1. Well put it this way, it makes sense the two of you have not met. Throw in the Neptune hard aspects his hard Pluto aspects and you have a stormy relationship which would lead to game-playing and control issues...unless of course the pair are very evolved and able to rise above the egos. Of course if this was a real relationship I would be gentler in my summary of the negatives. Perhaps if this was real though my gut feeling wouldn't have said "no there's something wrong here" at first glance though  IP: Logged |
waxlobster
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posted November 14, 2011 08:59 AM
It's only hypothetical? Ah well you see I'm glad...I only looked at the first comparison and I see a lot of problems personally. My least favourite aspect to see in synastry is Saturn closely opposed or square the other person's Mars. It can become so oppressive and restrictive and for it to work it'd be mitigated if it's a double-whammy aspect. Seeing the hard aspect from Saturn in the guy1 to Venus AND Mars in girl1. Well put it this way, it makes sense the two of you have not met. Throw in the Neptune hard aspects his hard Pluto aspects and you have a stormy relationship which would lead to game-playing and control issues...unless of course the pair are very evolved and able to rise above the egos. Of course if this was a real relationship I would be gentler in my summary of the negatives. Perhaps if this was real though my gut feeling wouldn't have said "no there's something wrong here" at first glance though IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 14, 2011 02:36 PM
Hey waxlobster  Thanks a lot. That was really thorough!IP: Logged |
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