posted November 14, 2011 01:58 PM            

To me personally, Saturn would be a deal breaker, if it touched sensitive points.

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posted November 14, 2011 07:21 PM            

Aspects:

(My)Mars in Aries square (His)Pluto/Scorpio
(His)Mars in Leo square (My)Pluto/Scorpio

It helped that our Mars signs where trine and my Venus in Leo was also conjunct his Mars in Leo.

Intense is an understatement. There was so much heat between us everyone around us could feel it. I felt like I could never get away from all that intensity. The relationship didn't last of course, it was beautiful at the beginning but from then on it was compulsive, frustrating and very sexual. We were both very sexual people, and it was a hard bond to break. I'd go from being completely infuatued and consumed with him to wanting to destroy him and and hating him. I'd never felt so strongly about anybody in my life, positive and negative feelings combined. Goodness I had such a strong dislike for him and how he made me feel about him. He'd do things to make me jealous, which killed me. In turn because I don't play the jealously games I'd ignore him (he's a Leo) which killed him. Very unhealthy relationship.

When it was over it was incredibly hard to be around him because that heat didn't disappear. We also had Venus in the 8th in our composite chart. It was a very Martian and Plutonian relationship.

posted November 15, 2011 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
Have any of you ever felt that the Mars person tried to dominate you in some way and that they didn't care how low they went?

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posted November 15, 2011 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have had it several times. I don't think it is a deal breaker. If there are other "control" aspects, it would be OK, imo. However, one may have to put those control aspects in to place.

To me personally, Saturn would be a deal breaker, if it touched sensitive points.

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Saturn is my chart ruler and is not my friend in anything. I looked at my transit chart for when I was going through a rough time with someone. Saturn was opposite their name asteroid in my chart. There are so many things that Saturn has had a hand in being sour in my life.

posted November 15, 2011 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Yes I have had this. I was Pluto (also conjunct my own Mars and Uranus) and he was Mars. There was powerful, rough attraction and sexual intrigue. His desire for me was heightened and strengthened when I showed my dark side. Very intense! Whew.

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posted November 15, 2011 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I had this aspect and it went both ways. We were both Mars and Pluto.

Aspects:

(My)Mars in Aries square (His)Pluto/Scorpio
(His)Mars in Leo square (My)Pluto/Scorpio

It helped that our Mars signs where trine and my Venus in Leo was also conjunct his Mars in Leo.

Intense is an understatement. There was so much heat between us everyone around us could feel it. I felt like I could never get away from all that intensity. The relationship didn't last of course, it was beautiful at the beginning but from then on it was compulsive, frustrating and very sexual. We were both very sexual people, and it was a hard bond to break. I'd go from being completely infuatued and consumed with him to wanting to destroy him and and hating him. I'd never felt so strongly about anybody in my life, positive and negative feelings combined. Goodness I had such a strong dislike for him and how he made me feel about him. He'd do things to make me jealous, which killed me. In turn because I don't play the jealously games I'd ignore him (he's a Leo) which killed him. Very unhealthy relationship.

When it was over it was incredibly hard to be around him because that heat didn't disappear. We also had Venus in the 8th in our composite chart. It was a very Martian and Plutonian relationship.

I think other things played into why our relationship didn't work out that probably had very little to do with our mutual Mars square Pluto aspect. but having that aspect didn't help the situation. I don't like squares in synastry. I look for harmonious aspects or I just can't get involved, it's too much work with squares. I'll take an opposition though, any day because those are much easier to manage. It's very hard to relieve the tension of a square in synastry especially between two such powerful planets as Mars and Pluto.

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posted November 15, 2011 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
Yep. It was insidious... he would've kept going had I stayed, but I couldn't take it anymore. He basically triggered a breakdown within me and I felt HORRIBLE. I'm not a cryer and found myself crying myself to sleep every night, feeling trapped, feeling weak, feeling worthless and undeserving. And the scary thing is that he didn't use typically abusive language, he never called me names or told me I was worthless or anything. it was a build up but he knew exactly what he was doing. Every upset was my fault, I was the one who needed to grow up, I was the one who betrayed him (nevermind what he did to me - he wouldn't admit it). He wouldn't be WITH me, but wouldn't let me be with anyone else. It couldn't be about anyone else, it had to be about him. Always. At first I thought "Good, I'm glad he's jealous." but it went beyond petty relationship games, and I firmly believe he has control issues, personality disorder... SOMETHING. It was very, very intense.

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posted November 15, 2011 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
See, this is why I roll my eyes when people say that the Pluto person is the one with jealousy issues. Mars and Venus can be b!tches too. I was quite happy and felt pretty normal, even though I embrace my insanity, before I met him. Not since high school has someone done their best to make me feel like I didn't fit in, something was wrong with me, I wasn't enough, and everything else you would say to someone to emotionally cripple them. I couldn't stop crying when he did this. When I finally stood up for myself he tried to point out something I did wrong and it was complete bs. Ever since then he's been very cold towards me.

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Good riddance, I mean it's a blessing he's being cold right? Better than him nitpicking you to death. God... I'm like you, I know my faults and I don't expect perfection from others. I'm pretty easy to get along with but there was no telling with him. It was eggshells, and god forbid I needed space (or telling him that) it would completely bewilder and irritate him to no end.

posted November 15, 2011 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
Hannarama, I swear I just wanted to scream at him what now?! There was no pleasing him. He would attack me from all sides. One of the worst things he said to me was that I didn't have passion about something that was my "heritage." If I could've blackened his eye without worrying about being arrested I would have. I don't know if his being cold is better. He's still been able to get in some insults, but I ignore him when possible. His Mars is in Leo too (my 7H), but his Pluto is in Libra (my 9H) conjunct my Mercury. Guess what he continues to insult me about. It was so easy to talk to him when we first met and then his true colors came out.

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HA! My guy told me the same thing. Furthermore that him and our OTHER friend had "discussed it" and they concluded I lack a passion for school. I'm like "And it's your business again, why? What the F are you going to do about it?" Oh I was so mad. I get mad even talking about it and it happened a year ago. Passion....oooh, I'll SHOW you passion. Lmao!

posted November 15, 2011 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
HA! My guy told me the same thing. Furthermore that him and our OTHER friend had "discussed it" and they concluded I lack a passion for school. I'm like "And it's your business again, why? What the F are you going to do about it?" Oh I was so mad. I get mad even talking about it and it happened a year ago. Passion....oooh, I'll SHOW you passion. Lmao!

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posted November 15, 2011 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
Omg! He thinks that rambling on and on about something is passion. Nevermind the fact that he lost everyone, but he displayed the kind of passion that I should have. Oh, I have one better than the friend. He spoke to a snot professor about me. Then he told me that they didn't understand why I was here and my writing! Wtf is that?! Passion? No, he's not worthy. Just a few more days and it's over.

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posted November 15, 2011 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
My experience is similar. Whenever I saw him with another woman he would ignore me and stand closer to whomever he was talking to. At first I didn't get why he did it and I wasn't very jealous, but somehow found myself playing into his "I-don't-see-you-but-i-know-you're-looking" game. I'm starting to think this is a *** -for-tat aspect- constantly going back and forth.

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posted November 16, 2011 11:44 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
My Leo actually used to do that with me too. He'd be all over another women when I was in the same vicinity as them, flirting or touching. AH! It drove me mad and I'd retaliate by ignoring him for a period of time. Which drove him nuts. I realized we were doing things just to see each other in pain, I really do think we wanted to destroy each other, or at least it felt that way when we were together. I mean I wanted him to crumble, he drove me crazy. Not good, and at that point it was time to call it quits. It definitely is an eye for an eye aspect. You can't even help it, you become your own worst enemy trying to get back at them all the while being completely infatuated with each other.

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