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RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 15, 2011 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do cancers really know what is going on in relationships and can sniff people out and identify the games they play? Are cancers difficult people to fool?

Or are they actually naive and imagine things and have bad sense of boundaries and misread people all the time?

What's been your experience from the cancers you know?

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mintgirl123
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posted November 15, 2011 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's more cancers are paranoid and are the ones playing the mind games. =X

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posted November 15, 2011 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Really know what is going on in relationships and can sniff people out and identify the games they play?

Yes!

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Are cancers difficult people to fool?

Definitely! imo..

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are they actually naive

Not really... They can be idealistic in love! But I wouldn't say 'naive'. They are pretty savvy.
But they can also play the martyr and stay in a relationship even though it's not what's best for them.

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'imagine things' & 'misread people'

This does happen. They often have a very correct intuition but they exaggerate it and make it worse than it really is.

For example lets say X did not say "hello" to you... so you might have the correct intuition that they had an issue with you... Perhaps they did - but maybe it was a tiny, silly thing.... whereas you might imagine it to be a horrible, complex problem... that they 'hate' you and are not simply 'annoyed'.
People can get over annoyances in a matter of hours or days.. But a Cancer person might think (years later) that X still feels the way they did that one time when they did not say "hello".
It's simply an exaggeration of things.

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have bad sense of boundaries

Hopelessly bad sense of boundaries imo
First of all they let other people's problems affect them way too much. Secondly - they get involved in other people's lives even when they are not asked.
So this problem goes both way - They don't seem to have very strong boundaries.. but they also breach other people's boundaries.

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amelia28
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posted November 15, 2011 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never met a cancer that is naive..you said it yourself that cancers tend to be paranoid so if anything they are on the guard. Wisdom is not a sign thing more a mindfulness thing and cancers would have better intuition if they were paranoid but been paranoid gets in the way of real intuition.

Cancers are healers though and are warm and sensitive, sentimental and get attached and are great cooks and very nourishing. They are also good caregivers so in my opinion can be good nurses and good at working with hospice etc...they are good at accumulating wealth too just like taurus so you can also find them in the field of business and do well in this field as well.

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Choc
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posted November 15, 2011 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Cancerian, I say it's a combo of things.
Intuitive+naive+paranoia+obsession= us!

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posted November 15, 2011 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Do cancers really know what is going on in relationships and can sniff people out and identify the games they play? Are cancers difficult people to fool?

Or are they actually naive and imagine things and have bad sense of boundaries and misread people all the time?

What's been your experience from the cancers you know?



Naive and boundary issues...that whole last question sounds way more like Pisces/Neptune than Cancer.

Cancer is intuitive but in a much more lucid, down to earth way than Pisces.

I think mintgirl is the closest to the truth here. Cancers are really self-protective and so yeah, they're cautious...which to others can be occasionally read as paranoia or being constantly suspicious of everyone.

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posted November 15, 2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm seems to be pretty mixed opinions, no?

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Xiiro
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posted November 15, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an archetype, Cancer is very in tune with the emotional state of their interpersonal relationships.

Cancer is the mother of the zodiac, and their sensitivity is like that of a mother nursing her baby. An emotional bond is created and both parties become very vulnerable and aware. She is concerned with how her baby needs to be held, stroked, talked to, and looked at to maximize the nurturing experience.

Of course when you apply the archetype to real life, this energy can filter into paranoia or accusation. We can see this energy twisted in situations like Münchausen syndrome by proxy.

My mother is a Cancer for example, and her Moon Aries -> Mars Gemini -> Mercury Cancer (conjunct Sun) Retrograde, causes her nurturing to turn inward. She put her kids through a lot of undeniable neglect and abandonment. If you try to talk to her about it, she nods her head and tunes you out. She has made it clear to all of us that it's her life and raising kids wasn't making her happy, so she had to follow her bliss.

I had a best friend in high school (Cancer Sun, Taurus Moon, Venus Leo), and she would create deep friendships with people. She would also get very upset if her friends had other friends, or began hanging out with each other, or if you broke whatever imaginary rules she used to define the friendship. Regardless of how close she insisted on being though, she would sell you down the river for $50 and a gram of weed.

My ex's boyfriend is a Cancer (I knew him before he started dating my ex) and he is one of the most blatantly mean people I have ever known. He will insult people repeatedly just to see how long it takes them to retaliate. Then he acts offended as if you attacked him out of the blue. If he has a soul, it is the size and color of a poppy seed.

All of these people are so messed up that their nurturing sense has become a self preservation mechanism. I have yet to see a time when any of these three lack an agenda, assumption, or motive based on obsessive emotional misjudgment. My mom senses that everyone wants to leave her, so she nurtures herself by leaving scars that are not easily forgotten. My high school friend senses that others want to take from her, so she nurtures herself by dictating guidelines for the relationship and taking from others before they can take from her. My ex's boyfriend senses that everyone hates him, so he nurtures himself by intentionally being hateful (that way he is choosing to be hated, instead of being hated because there is something fundamentally wrong with him).

So to answer your question in summery LOL: I think Cancer energy is essentially very aware and bound to those they relate with, but can certainly manifest in the ways you describe in unfortunate situations.

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posted November 15, 2011 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Do cancers really know what is going on in relationships and can sniff people out and identify the games they play? Are cancers difficult people to fool?

Or are they actually naive and imagine things and have bad sense of boundaries and misread people all the time?

What's been your experience from the cancers you know?


Most of the Cancers I know or had a good rapport with had fire in their chart (specifically mercury in Leo). My friend is a Cancer sun/Cancer moon and is/was VERY naive about his romantic relationships, however he's always been good at reading me and being intuitive regarding me, so I know he has it in him. He made poor relationship choices a lot out of love, but he paid the consequences for them too.

My other Cancer friend is a girl with a SHITload of fire in her chart, so she has more attitude and "umph" than the average Cancer but I still notice her tendency to disappear when I confront her wishy-washiness (Okay, so maybe she is kinda a Cancer, lol). She's pretty good with being around guys, she can just stand there and she gets picked up pretty easy - all without making eye contact or anything. I'm like WHAT IS THAT? She attracts GOOD guys too, you know? I wonder what it is about Geminis vs. Cancers 'cause a lot of Geminis I know and Gemini influenced people attract skeezi low-grade guys (although it's not what they want) while Cancers don't have to lift a finger so much as to attract Mr. Next Door. They're right next to each other so I've always scratched my head at that.

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Jounia
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posted November 15, 2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jounia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm cancer, and my intuition rarely fails me. My problem is I over analyse too much and then I start to question my intuition/orginal gut feeling. I'm very very tuned in to the feelings of others and in relationships.

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skegeegirl
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posted November 15, 2011 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skegeegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Choc:
As a Cancerian, I say it's a combo of things.
Intuitive+naive+paranoia+obsession= us!

Yep! lol.

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