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Topic: Mars Signs - Being Terriorial and Power Struggles
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NativelyJoan
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posted November 16, 2011 12:50 AM
  
I've met a few Mars in Scorpio's in my life and I've found that of the ones I've known they can be very territorial when it comes to other people and just controlling things in general. I always seem to get into silent power struggles with them except I humbly bow out because I see those battles as unnecessary. I have a friend who's a Libra with Mars in Scorpio and she gets threatened incredibly easily. She likes to have her hands on everything, to be in complete control and if it seems like control is being passed to someone else a power struggle breaks out. We used to work together and I'd be talking to a male coworker all the while she'd be giving us glares and trying to intersect into the conversation. It was annoying and kind of disrespectful. She does this all the time when I'm talking to men. It's like if they are in her vicinity their off limits. Mind you they were just coworkers, but those tendencies always came out. She used to have power struggles with coworkers all the time, it got so extreme we had to have a work meeting to discuss it. She apologized but it just made me wonder about Mars placements and how we feel threatened and possibly act out by being territorial and engaging in power struggles. I have Mars in Aries and I'm a fighter at heart (a peaceful fighter of course Libra Sun) and I don't get territorial but I can be pretty assertive. I'm sensitive to power struggles because I feel like I attract them. People who want to battle it out to prove their strength or authority. To de-power me in a sense because I think they might be threatened by my power, I'm really not sure. But it happens to me at an abnormally high rate. They do say with Mars in the 1st to engage with the world means to cross swords with it. It might be Mars in the 1st. Any who are you territorial, power hungry or do you easily feel threatened? What is your Mars sign and add aspects? Describe experiences and examples if that helps to paint a broad picture. Thanks  IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 12:55 AM
with mars in scorpio, where's her pluto?IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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posted November 16, 2011 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
with mars in scorpio, where's her pluto?
Pluto in Libra, but her Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Uranus are all in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Pluto in Libra, but her Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Jupiter are all in Scorpio.
yeah, which means that they're all ruled by pluto and if pluto is making a conjunction to her sun, u can bet that it's certainly going to be a bit more plutonian than u'd otherwise expect it. jupiter there can really amplify things and if her sun is in the early degree's of libra, she's going through a pluto square transit with her sun. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted November 16, 2011 01:03 AM
I've got a Mars in Leo and honestly, I can get jealous over petty things...But I could also attribute that to the plenty of Scorpio planets I have. Anyways, I also do something that's more Scorpio-ish, I think. I feel as though I die when I get jealous, and then, soon after, I am reborn! Reborn = adjusting to whatever incited jealousy in the first place. What's easier, changing what bugs me or changing myself? I go with the latter... IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I've got a Mars in Leo and honestly, I can get jealous over petty things...But I could also attribute that to the plenty of Scorpio planets I have. Anyways, I also do something that's more Scorpio-ish, I think. I feel as though I die when I get jealous, and then, soon after, I will am reborn! Reborn = adjusting to whatever incited jealousy in the first place. What's easier, changing what bugs me or changing myself? I go with the latter...
nice! IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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posted November 16, 2011 01:04 AM
Her Sun is conjunct Pluto at a 3 degree orb. She's very Plutonian. Sun conjunct Pluto (Libra)
Moon conjunct Uranus (Scorpio)
Mercury conjunct Moon(Scorpio)
Uranus conjunct Mars (Scorpio) Tuxe her Uranus is in Scorpio I glanced to quickly not her Jupiter...sorry IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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posted November 16, 2011 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I've got a Mars in Leo and honestly, I can get jealous over petty things...But I could also attribute that to the plenty of Scorpio planets I have. Anyways, I also do something that's more Scorpio-ish, I think. I feel as though I die when I get jealous, and then, soon after, I am reborn! Reborn = adjusting to whatever incited jealousy in the first place. What's easier, changing what bugs me or changing myself? I go with the latter...
Coolness. Do you think you're sensitive to power struggles as a Plutonian? IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Her Sun is conjunct Pluto at a 3 degree orb. She's very Plutonian. Sun conjunct Pluto (Libra)
Moon conjunct Uranus (Scorpio)
Mercury conjunct Moon(Scorpio)
Uranus conjunct Mars (Scorpio)
uranus, too? omg, forget it! she's being squared right now by transiting pluto and opposed by uranus... seriously, with her natal uranus making the conjunction to her moon and mars, i'm not surprised: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnp26xfMcc you've got mars in aries; mercury in libra.. if mars is making an aspect to that pluto....... oh, that's a fighting aspect, alright.. don't know if you've got it heated with her but just work that out because the opposition between your mars and her pluto could be VERY competitive to the point of it possibly getting physical! her uranus and mars certainly don't help and the fact that her transits are a little, uh, challenging for her right now... did u watch the video? IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted November 16, 2011 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
nice!
Oh yes, it really is! I rarely get jealous anymore. I think I used to be insecure, but now I know how to reassure myself, rather than depend on others. quote:
Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Coolness. Do you think you're sensitive to power struggles as a Plutonian?
Well, my strongest planet is Mercury, so... But I do think I was at one point. In fact, I feel, looking back, I really was. IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:29 AM
personal tip: always be aware as to whether or not anyone's planets fall in your twelfth house... jupiter and venus could be comfortable there but even with venus in the twelfth, 'hidden' themes seem to go along with it.. some lady that was able to actually *see* (and also marry) the guy with venus in her twelfth, posted not long ago in a different thread and mentioned that her husband cheated on her.. i'm surprised the venus person even revealed themselves, much less married the house person! not because of them personally, but because of the twelfth house themes.. things there would be in your blind spot.. jupiter there is said to provide protection; i'm not sure if the person with it there in synastry would mean the jupiter in the others twelfth would look out for the house person without their knowing, but, definitely, i get a little antsy as is even with just venus there (i've experienced jupiter in my twlefth in synastry just once and don't really know where that went), but... i certainly would not be walking around with anyone that has any of the others there, especially not anyone with the placements your co-worker has, for sure! there can be enlightenment, yes, definitely.. just make sure that the person's with the planet are enlightened otherwise, the negative manifestations of the twelfth would knock on your door to feast. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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posted November 16, 2011 01:34 AM
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TuxedoMask: did u watch the video?
We no longer work together, but we're still friends. We haven't worked together since 2010 because I moved to a different city but we hang out when I visit. Thankfully we didn't go at it. Unless the cause is justified I tend to walk away from battles that just aren't worth it. By video do you mean the one you just posted? If so yes but I had to stop because I hate violence. That was horrible. People can be ticking time bombs, it's very scary. IP: Logged |
DepTaurus
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posted November 16, 2011 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
personal tip: always be aware as to whether or not anyone's planets fall in your twelfth house... jupiter and venus could be comfortable there but even with venus in the twelfth, 'hidden' themes seem to go along with it.. some lady that was able to actually *see* (and also marry) the guy with venus in her twelfth, posted not long ago in a different thread and mentioned that her husband cheated on her.. i'm surprised the venus person even revealed themselves, much less married the house person! not because of them personally, but because of the twelfth house themes.. things there would be in your blind spot.. jupiter there is said to provide protection; i'm not sure if the person with it there in synastry would mean the jupiter in the others twelfth would look out for the house person without their knowing, but, definitely, i get a little antsy as is even with just venus there (i've experienced jupiter in my twlefth in synastry just once and don't really know where that went), but... i certainly would not be walking around with anyone that has any of the others there, especially not anyone with the placements your co-worker has, for sure! there can be enlightenment, yes, definitely.. just make sure that the person's with the planet are enlightened otherwise, the negative manifestations of the twelfth would knock on your door to feast.
speaking of venus in 12th house  IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
We no longer work together, but we're still friends. We haven't worked together since 2010 because I moved to a different city but we hang out when I visit. Thankfully we didn't go at it. Unless the cause is justified I tend to walk away from battles that just aren't worth it. By video do you mean the one you just posted? If so yes but I had to stop because I hate violence. That was horrible. People can be ticking time bombs, it's very scary.
well, that's what her aspects are suggesting: uranus conjunct mars.. outbursts.
uranus conjunct moon.. moody. anything with uranus is erratic! im stressing it in her case a lot more because of the transit of uranus to her natal sun, not to mention the pluto! if she's been holding her anger in, when uranus makes the exact opposition, she could find herself losing it at a drop of a hat and/or projecting her need/want to change somewhere else and getting herself into some kind of 'accident'. whereas mars is a bubbling pot, pluto is a volcano; she has sun conjunct pluto. transit uranus opposing sun
transit pluto square sun
transit pluto square natal pluto
it's a pretty good thing saturn is late in the sign because the offset of the transit might've definitely not have been the best for her! IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
speaking of venus in 12th house
shutcho face, foo!  IP: Logged |
DepTaurus
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posted November 16, 2011 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
shutcho face, foo!
well that was rude IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted November 16, 2011 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
well that was rude
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tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
well that was rude
all this talk of uranus and mars...
 where are my manners?
ahem......
--shutcho face, foo! ...please
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DepTaurus
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posted November 16, 2011 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
all this talk of uranus and mars...
where are my manners?
ahem......
--[b]shutcho face, foo! ...please
lol[/B]
I really dont like that. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted November 16, 2011 01:56 AM
^Lmfaoooooooooo!IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
I really dont like that.
look, i understand, ok? can't we just talk about this later on when we're in private!?
must u scold me like this out in public!? you're embarrassing me in front of the guys! IP: Logged |
DepTaurus
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posted November 16, 2011 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
look, i understand, ok? can't we just talk about this later on when we're in private!?
must u scold me like this out in public!? you're embarrassing me in front of the guys!
haha you know im just teasing you haha i love to tease you. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted November 16, 2011 02:31 AM
My sister activates a couple of planets in 12th house in a good way. I see 12th house as an area of successful activity, she spurs me on and so she is very significant to me. It is her mars that falls in my 12th and cause her mars is in gemini and in the 3rd it is about siblings and what she says. What she says for good or bad definately used to have a big impact, that has lessened over the years. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted November 16, 2011 02:40 AM
That woman described earlier in the post sounds like a nightmare to work with!The whole team having to address the problem! Then again she could be the scapegoat for everyone else's **** and is sticking up for herself. Is she combative or polite? Politeness has a lot of kudos in my book, assertiveness does too, aggressiveness is poor. IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted November 16, 2011 02:43 AM
well, since we're sharing.. my sun used to be in a relative's twelfth house and i think that so was my mercury; i grew up relatively somewhat around them and it wasn't til i reached an age where i could claim my own awareness that i realized how.. uh, 'not-the-best', they were... i used to look up to this person.. now? they know to not even so much as come anywhere near or mention anything around or about me. i'm saying that as being the planet person, myself, not the house; verdict is still out on as to whether or not one's own twelfth house would be activated when they activate the others' twelfth but in the case mentioned, person-X's moon and chiron were in mine; it's a very good thing i wisened up. IP: Logged |
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