posted November 16, 2011 11:28 AM            

This insight is about the North Node. What aspects are made to your NN? That will show which planets will HELP you get to your life purpose and which will HINDER you from getting there, or put up a struggle to your getting there.

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posted November 16, 2011 11:31 AM            

Jupiter is the conscience. His conscience is compromised, in real life, as it is in the chart. My thought was that Jupiter is preventing him from getting to his life purpose i.e. NN.

Now, to make it more interesting, Neptune is conjunct his NN. Neptune is what he MUST embrace and integrate in to himself. Jupiter, the SQUARED planet to his NN, is standing in his way.

posted November 16, 2011 12:55 PM            

Aspects:

NN trine Pluto
NN trine Chiron
NN conjunct Ceres
NN in the 1st

Those are all the aspects made to my NN. Because those are the only planets and asteroids that I have in Water. My whole chart is Air and Fire and it doesn't aspect any of those planets, not harshly or smoothly. So I experience my North Node in Pisces very harmoniously. The only thing that has given me a headache is my South Node in Virgo in the 7th, it was such a pain growing up. But now I get to swim in an infinite sea of time and space thanks to walking down the path of my NN in Pisces.

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posted November 16, 2011 01:45 PM            

I wouldn't say my conscience is compromised at at all, though. Jupiter in the 2nd square Venus/NN in the 5th, which I think one of the ways it manifests is that I'm likely to blow through money on fun things instead of saving and building a stable financial foundation. NN is in the 5th, so fun, creative things are going to fulfill me, but being opposite Saturn means it will be delayed until I satisfy Saturn's requirements. Saturn is square Jupiter, which really impacts my confidence -- I don't think I'm that good at anything I do. Since all of these planets are connected through a t-square, I think Jupiter is going to be the balancing point. If I can gain some confidence in myself and my abilities, I'll be able to take care of Saturn's responsibilities. If I can reign in my tendency to be very liberal with my resources, I'll be able to pursue my NN/Venus in a more productive and fulfilling way. That's what I've come up with, anyway.

posted November 16, 2011 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
Oh hey... I've got NN square Jupiter, except my NN is conjunct Venus. My jupiter is also kind of afflicted -- square Venus, square Saturn, but sextile Uranus. Since Jupiter/Saturn/Venus is a t-square, I also have Saturn opposite NN. In my case, I think I need to figure my Jupiter out since it's at the apex of the t-square.

I wouldn't say my conscience is compromised at at all, though. Jupiter in the 2nd square Venus/NN in the 5th, which I think one of the ways it manifests is that I'm likely to blow through money on fun things instead of saving and building a stable financial foundation. NN is in the 5th, so fun, creative things are going to fulfill me, but being opposite Saturn means it will be delayed until I satisfy Saturn's requirements. Saturn is square Jupiter, which really impacts my confidence -- I don't think I'm that good at anything I do. Since all of these planets are connected through a t-square, I think Jupiter is going to be the balancing point. If I can gain some confidence in myself and my abilities, I'll be able to take care of Saturn's responsibilities. If I can reign in my tendency to be very liberal with my resources, I'll be able to pursue my NN/Venus in a more productive and fulfilling way. That's what I've come up with, anyway.

As far as your theory, in my case I do think Jupiter is acting as a roadblock to fulfilling my NN, but there are other planets connected to it as well.

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posted November 16, 2011 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK, Joan, let me ask you this. Are Ceres, Pluto and Chiron intimately involved with your life goals i.e. the NN. Can you use these energies with relative ease i.e the trine?

If so, could you explain how, please?

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In a sense yes they all are. I have Pluto in the 8th and I'm very interested in the human mind, the truth, the unknown, research and depth psychology. I've always been interested in the welfare of people as a whole and I tend towards volunteer work and work in a profession that allows me to interact with other people.

Chiron is in my 5th house. I enjoy art and expression in general. Growing up I studied photography and I used to be incredibly shy about revealing my work, because of criticism. My parents weren't really supportive of Creative careers. I went to college with a major in Photography and switched to Media and Journalism, I work in Media Arts but I still do photography as a hobby. At this point I no longer care what anybody thinks about my work, I do it for myself.

My NN is definitely involved in my career and it's in my 1st house so it's connected to my identity and how I present myself to other people. I do use these energies with ease because it's not hard for me to empathize with other people. I've done a lot of Volunteer work in my life, including volunteering at an AIDS Hospice which was difficult but transformational. I think my Midheaven might have a greater impact on my career and life style with Sagittarius there. I've also got Uranus and Saturn in the 10th. I want to pursue a path along the themes of Sagittarius however, I'm naturally able to do work related to Chiron, Pluto, Ceres and my NN. Because I enjoy healing work, I do my work through being a natural psychologist for my friends and family. I'm the advice giver, and I can pick up motives and intentions in the blink of an eye. I'm good at seeing into people and I use that to help them however I can. I've got the ruler of my NN in the 11th(Neptune) and I can be completely selfless when it comes to my friends. I sacrifice a lot for them and my family when issues related to that come up.

posted November 16, 2011 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I haaaaave North Node exact conjunct my Sun, Venus and Jupitah. Hmmm, square Mars...

I should look these things up! 'Cause I never really paid attention to the NN before.

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WOW--how close are all these aspects. I never heard of so many planets conjunct the NN

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posted November 16, 2011 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

WOW--how close are all these aspects. I never heard of so many planets conjunct the NN

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Actually that can be kinda misleading, now that I read it over. Both my Sun and NN are in the same degree, the Venus and Jupiter laying about 7-ish degrees away on either side.

2 degrees off for my Mars.

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posted November 16, 2011 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Red Scorp I would call yours Sun and Mars

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posted November 16, 2011 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was thinking that if there were a square to the NN in the natal chart, THAT planet squaring the NN would be the energy which was hindering the person from reaching his goals.

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In looking at charts, the planets squaring the NN seem to indicate either intense difficulty in the life related to the nature of the planet and where it is placed or that planet was used to spur the individual on toward the NN.
Carl Jung was an interesting example I found, Mercury in Cancer sq nodal axis.
How much of his material is related to that placement? Enormous influence. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jung,_Carl_Gustav

NN 11 Aries in the 2nd, Mercury 13 Cancer in the 6th

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Around age nine-ten, he became aware that God's image was not only reflected in man, but in all of nature, and that God and man alike are reflected through the cosmos. At age 12, he developed fainting spells which kept him out of school. He dreamt for hours, was out in nature, drew, "but above all...was able to plunge into the world of the mysterious." Overhearing his father's talk of financial concerns around Carl's illness, Jung realized on some level he could overcome the fainting spells and was able to return to school. Shortly after this, on a long walk to school, he experienced an intense moment of knowing himself: "Previously, I had existed…everything had merely happened to me. Now, I happened to myself. Now I knew: I am myself now, now I exist."

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During 1912-13, he had numerous visions. Jung stated in his autobiography, "Memories, Dreams, and Reflections" that all of his creative work came from these initial visions, fantasies and dreams.

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