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hannarama
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posted November 17, 2011 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tux - THANK YOU for informing me of my Hades moon, although the excerpt from the Judy Hall book didn't describe my moon aspect, it did lead me to asking on Yahoo! Answers and getting a very detailed answer which I will post here (it shocked me.)

"Hades Moon refers to a Moon that is aspected by Pluto. An astrologer by the name of Judy Hall wrote a renowned book on the subject called "The Hades Moon: Pluto in Aspect to the Moon". In this work she shares her years of research on the topic as well as the insights she came upon via analysis of her own "Hades Moon".

Moon-Pluto aspects tend to carry a lot of depth and can tell a wealth of information abut the natives inner motivations. In general they usually indicate that the mother or a nurturing figure was controlling and emotionally manipulative, perhaps with a fear that the child would abandon them. Conversely this figure may have been completely absent; taken away early in the native's life either by death, separation or physical presence but emotional absence. Usually there is a long history of abuse on the female side of the family, often following themes of rape or mysterious deaths.

For the native Moon-Pluto contacts signify an emotionally profound nature. Usually the native is very introspective and insightful when it comes to matters of psychology. They have a strong interest in knowing what makes others tick. They often do not trust easily and don't share their deepest thoughts with people they do not know very well. They are often very probing, but dislike being probed by others.They are frank and do not prefer deceptive, elusive behaviour. If heavily afflicted the native may be emotionally manipulative, controlling and paranoid.

--Moon(Taurus) in the 11th house oppose Pluto(Scorpio) 5th house suggests a tendency toward involvement in cults or the occult. Usually the native attractes mates or friends that expose them to the occult or aid them in exploring the depths of their sexuality, emotions and inner motivations. The native is likely to be very suspicious of the motives of others, and thus may find it difficult to trust others. Usually they are very calm and insightful about the psychological issues of others, able to render startling insights, which may cause others to feel uncomfortable around them. They are often people watchers, and may have strong likes or dislikes upon first meeting. Negatively they may run into friends or lovers that try to manipulate and control them, which can cause violent emotional outbursts. This particular placement of the Moon indicates a native that is very independent and strong willed. They are not usually the type to be dominated. They are also very stubborn and tenacious."

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posted November 17, 2011 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Hey girly
You have NN conj MC in Pisces [b]and, and, and
t.Neptune is going into Pisces next February.
I think you are in for a ride
Just don't forget to use protection, psychic that is [/B]

Oooh Lonake, you're a tease! I'm a novice - what's that mean?!

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posted November 17, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Well I hear yer supposed to look at water stuff, such as the signs, 4th-8th-12th house, etc...

and planets Moon and Neptune.


I have an exact Moon-Neptune conjunction on Sag 29, on the cusp of the 12H, also on SN, but I'm not psychic. I think I was one in a previous life, but not in this one. Am very intuitive and an empath, but not psychic, though have had 3 prophetic dreams. As much as I wish, I cannot see the future. Sometimes not even astrology or tarot cards speak to me. I dont see auras or angels and I'm not in conscious contact with any supernatural being. Just moody and insecure I guess.

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posted November 17, 2011 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannarama:
What about Mars in the 12th or Uranus/Neptune in the 7th?

Don't listen to H7 being all about the other. They are traits that help you tune into others.
Uranus/Neptune H7 could be good indicators for this re:metaphysical realm.
I have Merc conj DSC and I am the Mercurial one. Used to think I could never be witty/chatty (thanks Saturn H3) but have found evidence to the contrary yrs ago.

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posted November 17, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I have an exact Moon-Neptune conjunction on Sag 29, on the cusp of the 12H, also on SN, but I'm not psychic. I think I was one in a previous life, but not in this one. Am very intuitive and an empath, but not psychic, though have had 3 prophetic dreams. As much as I wish, I cannot see the future. Sometimes not even astrology or tarot cards speak to me. I dont see auras or angels and I'm not in conscious contact with any supernatural being. Just moody and insecure I guess.


You know I've noticed a lot of empaths tend to have low self-esteem or a low ego. I guess it makes sense 'cause that's how there's so much room for other's emotions. My best friend has Moon conj. Neptune, and my other friend had it too. Both of them were empaths (I consider being intuitive, empathic, and anything extra-sensitory as "psychic"), in fact I think nearly ALL of my friends are empathic. I'm not sure if it's cause I'm NOT or if it's cause of like attract like or what, but I noticed my moon is trine neptune and wondered if that was the same thing.

Is your life easier 'cause you're an empath? I read a lot of psychic-like books or "teach yourself" books and they're like "Notice how much easier your life is?" but it seems like advice not to get stressed out. Nevertheless, I notice I'm a lot more polite, wiser, etc. than a lot of adults. And I wonder why old men are always without fail, attracted to me and I feel younger guys or guys my age are intimidated by me. I can definitely feel people's energy when I first meet them but have a hard time putting it into words.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannarama:
[b]What about Mars in the 12th or Uranus/Neptune in the 7th?


Don't listen to H7 being all about the other. They are traits that help you tune into others.
Uranus/Neptune H7 could be good indicators for this re:metaphysical realm.
I have Merc conj DSC and I am the Mercurial one. Used to think I could never be witty/chatty (thanks Saturn H3) but have found evidence to the contrary yrs ago.[/B][/QUOTE]

Uhm, THANK YOU! I thought the same thing. I don't look at astrology like it has boundaries but instead with a "If it fits, it fits." kind of approach. One thing I can confirm is my ex-boyfriend was both extremely intelligent, and extremely intuitive.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannarama:
Oooh Lonake, you're a tease! I'm a novice - what's that mean?!

I'm surprised no one else pointed in out, it's an obvious to me. Altho have to say I read Placidus, so I didn't check out much else.
NN/MC are both indicators of life purpose, where we are headed. The fact that they're conj so closely in Pisces could point to dealing w.metaphysical realm for one of the reasons that you are here. Read another way, it could point to working w.the mentally ill, or being a nun. There are a lot of ways you could take this.
Neptune over the NN/MC (which I will never have, darn it, nvm lol) in Pisces illuminates life purpose. Neptune in Pisces is at home as well, so there will be a feeling that new opportunities are opening up for you, whatever seemed unreachable/unimaginable will now be made more clear, as if they are the most natural, conceivable things in the world.
Oh, and on top of that you have Jup in Gemini closely sq that conj. Jupiter exaggerates.
Funny that Jup in Gemini is also strongly tied to the mental realm, it does not easily escape. But it does like to keep the information moving. You might have that working in your favor.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannarama:
[b] Oooh Lonake, you're a tease! I'm a novice - what's that mean?!


I'm surprised no one else pointed in out, it's an obvious to me. Altho have to say I read Placidus, so I didn't check out much else.
NN/MC are both indicators of life purpose, where we are headed. The fact that they're conj so closely in Pisces could point to dealing w.metaphysical realm for one of the reasons that you are here. Read another way, it could point to working w.the mentally ill, or being a nun. There are a lot of ways you could take this.
Neptune over the NN/MC (which I will never have, darn it, nvm lol) in Pisces illuminates life purpose. Neptune in Pisces is at home as well, so there will be a feeling that new opportunities are opening up for you, whatever seemed unreachable/unimaginable will now be made more clear, as if they are the most natural, conceivable things in the world.
Oh, and on top of that you have Jup in Gemini closely sq that conj. Jupiter exaggerates.
Funny that Jup in Gemini is also strongly tied to the mental realm, it does not easily escape. But it does like to keep the information moving. You might have that working in your favor.

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Sometimes I feel like I'm in someone else's mind (dunno if that pertains to what you're saying but I'm throwing it out there anyway) for instance, I'll think of something and in the next second that other person will say it. This has been happening on and off for the past two years. I wonder if that's just a synastry aspect, or if it's something personal with me.

I don't have Neptune in Pisces, it's in Capricorn... unless you mean T. Neptune? I also though IC in Virgo meant I was a nun in the past life with a pension for order, and the MC is what I'm supposed to strive for in this life. Something I keep seeing over and over in my chart is snippets of psychology. It's funny 'cause my first major in college was Psychology, and I wanted to BE a psychologist but I was young and unsure and thought adults knew better so when my BFF's mom told me to switch to Journalism 'cause she liked my writing - I did. I've bounced majors since then and am now in creative writing, but I still yearn for psychology. Looks like when I'm a grown up that's what I'll be doing is earning my Psych degree so I can eventually start my practice.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think one of the biggest ways to become psychic is learn to have Out of Body experiences (OBE's)

This changes your vibratory rate. Everything,living and non living, has a vibration. The higher yours goes, the more psychic you become, I think.

I studied a lot of the basics when I was learning, but forget the specifics, now. However, I think the OBE's do promote psychic ability.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think one of the biggest ways to become psychic is learn to have Out of Body experiences (OBE's)

This changes your vibratory rate. Everything,living and non living, has a vibration. The higher yours goes, the more psychic you become, I think.

I studied a lot of the basics when I was learning, but forget the specifics, now. However, I think the OBE's do promote psychic ability.


Sigh...

I don't think I'll be ready for that for awhile. I believe that happens but I don't think it's easy. I've noticed I seem to walk a line between being intuitive and practical, and this seems to be my gift. Being able to be split between two worlds, but I'm not sure anything in my chart supports this.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannarama:
You know I've noticed a lot of empaths tend to have low self-esteem or a low ego. I guess it makes sense 'cause that's how there's so much room for other's emotions. My best friend has Moon conj. Neptune, and my other friend had it too. Both of them were empaths (I consider being intuitive, empathic, and anything extra-sensitory as "psychic"), in fact I think nearly ALL of my friends are empathic. I'm not sure if it's cause I'm NOT or if it's cause of like attract like or what, but I noticed my moon is trine neptune and wondered if that was the same thing.

Is your life easier 'cause you're an empath? I read a lot of psychic-like books or "teach yourself" books and they're like "Notice how much easier your life is?" but it seems like advice not to get stressed out. Nevertheless, I notice I'm a lot more polite, wiser, etc. than a lot of adults. And I wonder why old men are always without fail, attracted to me and I feel younger guys or guys my age are intimidated by me. I can definitely feel people's energy when I first meet them but have a hard time putting it into words.


No, my life isn't easier. In fact, I've had quite a sad life. And I take on other people's emotions as my own, which sometimes can be confusing. During Pluto's transit on my Moon-Neptune I'm pretty sure I felt all the pain around me, which only amplified my own. I sometimes shut it off, I get very introverted (though have 7 Fire planets) and just keep people at a distance. But somehow can't help myself and get back into the whirlwind. Working in a hospital with sick and injured people certainly hasn't made my life easier being empathic and all. My patients love me, they say they heal just by talking with me. But I learned to detach and see it as a job that ends when I get home. Because I need to detach to stay sane. I need to go towards NN in Gemini and detach from Moon-Neptune on SN in Sag. Detachment isn't easier either, for years I tried to repress my hypersensitivity by being cynical, a role which I can play almost to perfection, but it's still a role and not my true self. Just got to balance stuff.

I wanted to be psychic too. I wanted to KNOW the answers and have the keys to life riddles. In the end, with maturity, I guess it really only comes down to trying to do the best with what you've got, try to do good if you can and retain from doing bad. I have to keep it simple and logical otherwise the Neptunian realm I can get so caught up in will take over me. And it's just not my life calling for this lifetime. I wanted it to be, but it's just not. It feels familiar, it's on 12H on SN, but it is drawing me back instead of pushing me forward.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannarama:
[b] Oooh Lonake, you're a tease! I'm a novice - what's that mean?!


I'm surprised no one else pointed in out, it's an obvious to me. Altho have to say I read Placidus, so I didn't check out much else.
NN/MC are both indicators of life purpose, where we are headed. The fact that they're conj so closely in Pisces could point to dealing w.metaphysical realm for one of the reasons that you are here. Read another way, it could point to working w.the mentally ill, or being a nun. There are a lot of ways you could take this.
Neptune over the NN/MC (which I will never have, darn it, nvm lol) in Pisces illuminates life purpose. Neptune in Pisces is at home as well, so there will be a feeling that new opportunities are opening up for you, whatever seemed unreachable/unimaginable will now be made more clear, as if they are the most natural, conceivable things in the world.
Oh, and on top of that you have Jup in Gemini closely sq that conj. Jupiter exaggerates.
Funny that Jup in Gemini is also strongly tied to the mental realm, it does not easily escape. But it does like to keep the information moving. You might have that working in your favor.

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I agree with Lonake. You're definitely going to have a very Neptunian experience once it passes over your NN-MC in Pisces. Transits to the Nodes, by the outer planets are very transformational and definitely life-altering. If you want to become a psychic, I also believe this transit might bring it out in you.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannarama:
unless you mean T. Neptune?

That one, next Feb.
It was in Pisces from May of this yr I believe until August, thereabouts. It's back in Aquarius now.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, my life isn't easier. In fact, I've had quite a sad life. And I take on other people's emotions as my own, which sometimes can be confusing. During Pluto's transit on my Moon-Neptune I'm pretty sure I felt all the pain around me, which only amplified my own. I sometimes shut it off, I get very introverted (though have 7 Fire planets) and just keep people at a distance. But somehow can't help myself and get back into the whirlwind. Working in a hospital with sick and injured people certainly hasn't made my life easier being empathic and all. My patients love me, they say they heal just by talking with me. But I learned to detach and see it as a job that ends when I get home. Because I need to detach to stay sane. I need to go towards NN in Gemini and detach from Moon-Neptune on SN in Sag. Detachment isn't easier either, for years I tried to repress my hypersensitivity by being cynical, a role which I can play almost to perfection, but it's still a role and not my true self. Just got to balance stuff.

I wanted to be psychic too. I wanted to KNOW the answers and have the keys to life riddles. In the end, with maturity, I guess it really only comes down to trying to do the best with what you've got, try to do good if you can and retain from doing bad. I have to keep it simple and logical otherwise the Neptunian realm I can get so caught up in will take over me. And it's just not my life calling for this lifetime. I wanted it to be, but it's just not. It feels familiar, it's on 12H on SN, but it is drawing me back instead of pushing me forward.


I'm really glad you said that. I was getting tired of reading "If you learn these techniques, watch how much easier your life gets!" catchphrase that many psychics' self-help books claim. I thought "You know, I did this, this and this and the outcome was still crap." and I thought it was MY fault. I take on guilt very easily, and although I have reservations about being an empath (mainly 'cause I'm not good at taking initiative or simply "knowing", like my Scorpio friend is - more on her below) I'm definitely hypersensitive.

I know people's moods and things but I kind of rebuff them and don't take it personally. I often times listen to people and people never mind telling me their secrets, but at the same time I can't tell you what I'm feeling, you know? I can't say "I feel sad because Jessica's sad." it's more an overwhelming sense of exhaustion or being tired in which case I go home. I do hate big crowds though but I thought it was due to my social anxiety, now I'm wondering elsewise.

Oh, and my friend? She's the kind who gives her frozen lunch to someone at work and they go "Oh thanks, I didn't have anything for dinner and now I do." and gives the guy without a car a ride home every day and people tell her their life stories upon first meeting. I don't have experiences like that, so I figured I wasn't an empath.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannarama:
[b]unless you mean T. Neptune?


That one, next Feb.
It was in Pisces from May of this yr I believe until August, thereabouts. It's back in Aquarius now.

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That explains the phenomena I was experiencing! It was freaky instant Law of Attraction type stuff. Knowing what someone else was going to say, wishing for a parking space and getting it, thinking I wanted a piece of rare candy and finding it the next day. I don't know if it's just luck or actually intuitive awareness/psychic tendencies.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does seem Neptune on the nodes can open one up to a different realm.
In the Steve Jobs thread I had, at his death t.Neptune was conj solar arc SN. Death is, in my view, opening up to another realm.
I'm not even saying anything close to death in your chart, hannarama, so that we're clear.
You're lucky, conj NN seems to be a fascinating transit. Added emphasis with it being angular.
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posted November 17, 2011 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
It does seem Neptune on the nodes can open one up to a different realm.
In the Steve Jobs thread I had, at his death t.Neptune was conj solar arc SN. Death is, in my view, opening up to another realm.
I'm not even saying anything close to death in your chart, hannarama, so that we're clear.
You're lucky, conj NN seems to be a fascinating transit. Added emphasis with it being angular.
Keep us posted

Definitely will. What kind of things happen to people with the aspects your speaking of? All I know is that conjuncts (and even squares at times) seem to act out stronger than trines.

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posted November 17, 2011 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could def be psychic experiences.
I'm not kidding w.the psychic protection, I would prepare by having a good armor of exercises to call on if needed. There is white light meditation, surrounding yourself, a basic and good protection. Somewhere on the web iQ posted a Violet Meditation that is v.good
The divide blurs, and not all energy is positive, not all use their power for good.
Also w.Neptune there is always the danger of energy levels dropping, leaving you vulnerable to illness that compromise immune system, so do whatever you can to protect your physical strength as well.
This is advice to myself, too, Neptune is going to be on my Sun as well. I don't have Jupiter sq to it, but there is a sq from Uranus (of all planets) in Sagittarius.

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posted November 17, 2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Could def be psychic experiences.
I'm not kidding w.the psychic protection, I would prepare by having a good armor of exercises to call on if needed. There is white light meditation, surrounding yourself, a basic and good protection. Somewhere on the web iQ posted a Violet Meditation that is v.good

The divide blurs, and not all energy is positive, not all use their power for good.

Also w.Neptune there is always the danger of energy levels dropping, leaving you vulnerable to illness that compromise immune system, so do whatever you can to protect your physical strength as well.
This is advice to myself, too, Neptune is going to be on my Sun as well. I don't have Jupiter sq to it, but there is a sq from Uranus (of all planets) in Sagittarius.


I always have trouble labeling what is 'psychic' and what is common sense, or average for people to know. But I will do those and be diligent with them, thank you. Also with Neptune in the 7th (I know this is a bit off topic) but would that cause divides to be blurred in a relationship, thus making it easier to "merge" as one (like Scorpios want to do?)? Or would Neptune in 7th kind of mean I attract a lot of emotional/energy vampires?

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posted November 17, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do attract emotional vampires, rest assured it is the Moon opp Pluto.
Neptune H7 is more over-idealization, partners pretending to be something other than they are, partners look to you to save them, you look to partners so that they can save you, you like vulnerable people, you appear vulnerable to others, etc. it is nothing out and out evil.

"Also with Neptune in the 7th (I know this is a bit off topic) but would that cause divides to be blurred in a relationship, thus making it easier to "merge" as one"
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posted November 17, 2011 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
If you do attract emotional vampires, rest assured it is the Moon opp Pluto.
Neptune H7 is more over-idealization, partners pretending to be something other than they are, partners look to you to save them, you look to partners so that they can save you, you like vulnerable people, you appear vulnerable to others, etc. it is nothing out and out evil.

"Also with Neptune in the 7th (I know this is a bit off topic) but would that cause divides to be blurred in a relationship, thus making it easier to "merge" as one"
---Yes


So no wonder Scorpios like me, Scorpios LOOOOOVE merging and I find it stifling as an Aries (well, with men anyway) because I'm independent, but the Saturn and Moon opp. in Pluto, and Neptune in 7th (and Mars in the 12th) all make for Scorpio-ish behavior. Vedically, my rising would be Taurus making my DSC Scorpio... and the Capricorn rising was definitely an emotional vampire, which is so ironic 'cause the girl before me had been one to him.

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posted November 17, 2011 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tux - THANK YOU [/i]

ur most certainly wc!

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posted November 17, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
If you do attract emotional vampires, rest assured it is the Moon opp Pluto.
Neptune H7 is more over-idealization, partners pretending to be something other than they are, partners look to you to save them, you look to partners so that they can save you, you like vulnerable people, you appear vulnerable to others, etc. it is nothing out and out evil.

And Lonake, thank YOU so very much for all your help! I actually recalled a conversation I had with someone today who was trained to read personalities, and I realized internally I'm very serious, although I have a good sense of humor too, I feel comfortable and relaxed when being serious. I suppose it's no wonder I always attract Capricorns, Scorpios, Leos.... Serious - Intense - Flashy... just like me.


[quote]"Also with Neptune in the 7th (I know this is a bit off topic) but would that cause divides to be blurred in a relationship, thus making it easier to "merge" as one"
---Yes


Scorpios LOVE to merge (did I already say that?)

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posted November 17, 2011 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Well, they prob sensed your Moon/Pluto, too (!) Makes sense why you'd be attracted to each other, even friends.

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