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posted November 17, 2011 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catherine Zeta Jones and Julia Roberts both have Venus in Virgo (fall).. Julia Roberts also has Saturn in Aries (fall)

Anyway, with regards to Chiron, I have it conjunct my ASC and I'm not ugly.. although my looks are pretty divisive.

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posted November 17, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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there she is on summer vacation


I laughed way too loud on this picture and the description, Lonake! LOL

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posted November 17, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every time the same story,we begin with looks and end up with internal beauty. We should have topic Internal Beauty. I wonder how many responses would it gather...
I think it is general consensus that hard aspects and challenged planets give striking (meta)physical features.

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posted November 17, 2011 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/fwa/beautyplanets.html

Beauty and the Planets

Beauty is strength and strength is beauty -the two go hand in hand.

Beauty is also conciousness, awareness, intelligence, youth, diversity, lightness, change, excitement, originality, genius, truth, independance, freedom, faith, hope, honesty, clarity, simplicity, trust, warmth, love, happiness, joy, life, creativity, courage, action, initiative, independance, energy, movement, speed, self-realization, balance, harmony, symmetry, duality, peace, compromise, co-operation, unity, and justice.

Beauty is also solidity, stability, endurance, calm, quiet, resourcefulness, intuition, sensitivity, receptivity, caring, nurturing, devotion, remembrance, service, duty, reliability, humility, thoroughness, purity, perfection, depth, focus, intensity, exclusivity, determination, regeneration, control, order, honor, respect, law, forgiveness, understanding, tolerance, inner peace, rest, relief, sacrifice.

Just as Mercury is the primary indicator of communication in the chart so the Ascendant or Rising sign, which stands for planet Earth, is the primary indicator of beauty. This does not mean it is the ONLY indicator, but the primary one. Every other planet, when well placed, will contribute to the total beauty of the individual, but there is always one that does so more than the others, and that is what the concept of rulership is all about. A planet is well placed when it is in its own gender, element, or sign. The Sun, for example, is well placed in a masculine(fire or air) sign, especially fire, and most of all in Leo(its ruling sign). The other planets follow the same rule according to their ruling signs.

The issue of rulership or dignity is pivotal to determining what is a beautiful planet and what is not. Planets in their own gender, element, or sign are comfortable or "at home" there because the natures of both the planet and the sign are complementary, similar, or even identical. Ease or comfort produces harmony which produces beauty. The more naturally the planet and sign blend the more harmony or beauty is produced. Planets in an inharmonious or incompatible gender, element, or sign are uncomfortable there and produce only tension, distortion, and conflict which produces ugliness.

The planets and their beauty quotients based on their ruling signs are as follows...


The Earth/Ascendant:
This is the main indicator of physical beauty(or the lack of it) in the chart. Earth rules Libra, the sign of beauty, so that Libra rising is first on the list of attractiveness. Libra rising has a beautiful face, and is well proportioned in every way. Not every Libra rising is perfect by the way -this depends on the other planets in the chart. One would think that the other two air signs, Gemeni and Aquarius, would come next in order of attractiveness, but it seems Sagittarius and Leo hold that distinction. Sagittarius has a pretty or handsome face, is usually brunette and often tall with a great body. So many models have Sagittarius rising. Leo ascendant is regal or noble looking and usually blond or light in coloring. The males bald early. Gemini is usually slender, brunette and sometines blonde, with a pretty or handsome face. Aquarius is also handsome or cute with brunette to blonde hair coloring. Finally, there is Aries ascendant which is not too tall, usually brunette, and whose features show strength and confidence. The males also bald early.

The ascendant is not generally physically attractive in the earth and water signs, but there are always exceptions. Take Richard Gere and Burt Reynolds, for example, both of whom have Scorpio rising and are considered quite attractive. In such cases other factors in the chart overpower or greatly modify the Ascendant influence. In general, Earth sign ascendants tend to be short and stocky except for Capricorn which is often thin or slender looking. Water ascendants often have pretty faces but their bodies are so often obese or out of proportion, except for Scorpio who is generally stocky with a beaked or prominent nose. Of course, other powerful planets or patterns in the chart can modify these descriptions to varying degrees.

Determining a person's correct ascendant is not an easy task, mostly due to the fact that it changes sign roughly every two hours and that not everyone keeps accurate records. Then there is the astrologer's nightmare -daylight savings time(double summer and war time as well), which can throw you off by half a sign or more. Finally, there are often other overpowering elements in the chart which can sometimes eclipse or overshadow the Ascendant's influence. It's no wonder over fifty percent of charts have incorrect Ascendants(and Midheavens). This is particularly so with celebrities who often give false or modified birth data usually for reasons of privacy. Favourite strategies include changing the year or reversing AM and PM.

Relying soley on birth data is not enough. It helps tremendously to visually recognize the various Ascendants in people. I do this all the time with the outer planet positions which are easier to spot or recognize because of their long-term influences. It's a little trickier with rising signs, though, but with time and practice it can be done.

It also helps to know that neighbouring signs are as different as night and day, and that this helps astrologers to decide between two rising signs. Also, masculine rising signs(fire or air) are generally taller, leaner, and more extroverted in nature, whereas the feminine ascendants(earth and water) are usually shorter, stockier, and more introverted in nature . A good way to narrow down the ascendant is to consider the element. Fire ascendants have that wild, energetic, and expressive look about them. Air ascendants have that social, refined, and intellecual look. Earth ascendants have that firm, tough, down to earth look. Water ascendants have that dreamy, sensitive, and domesticated look. Once you've figured out the element you can work on the specific sign.


Venus and Mars:
Perhaps next in importance after the Ascendant, when considering beauty, especially among females -is the planet Venus. The Ascendant is the covering, but Venus is the substance. Lady Venus, ruler of Taurus, is a very sensual and earthy planet. It rules the erotic or torrid aspects of love and sensuality. Venus is most desirable in the feminine signs, particularly in the earth signs, and most of all in Taurus -its ruling sign. Someone with both a masculine ascendant and a feminine Venus is truly a most attractive and desirable person, especially if female. Venus in fire can be passionate but it loses much of its femininity and can be crude or insensitive. Venus in air comes closest to being bisexual and has a very cerebral approach to sex.

Mars is best in the fire and air signs keeping the body trim and active and therefore contributing much to a person's beauty or level of physical attraction. Mars in fire, and especially in Aries -its ruling sign, is often found in the charts of atheletes or people in occupations where physical strength, speed, and stamina are required. Mars in air is more mentally or socially than physically active, but stays trim and attractive nonetheless. These descriptions are especially true if the ascendant or rising sign is also in fire or air. Mars in Earth tends to be slow and sluggish while Mars in water lacks energy and confidence. These shortcomings will especially be evident if the ascendant is also in a feminine sign. Men(or women) with both a masculine Ascendant and Mars are often physically attractive and challenging to the opposite sex.


Uranus:
Uranus is another planet that can make a real difference on a beauty level. Like the Ascendant, it is an air sign planet, ruler of Aquarius, and air sign planets, when well placed are particularly strong endowers of beauty. Uranus in an air sign can give great beauty, and to a somewhat lesser degree in a fire sign. I have observed the various Uranus signs personally over the decades and can confidently vouch for this. The stunning beauty of Uranus in an air sign is especially evident when combined with a air or fire ascendant. As an example, some of the most gorgeous models are those born between 1968 and 1975, when Uranus was in Libra. Uranus in Libra is probably second only to Ascendant in Libra as far as beauty is concerned. Uranus in Gemini(1942-49) and Aquarius(1912-19) and (1995-2003) are also extremely attractive and exciting placements.


The Other Planets:
Sun, Moon, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto well placed have their own brand of beauty to offer.

The SUN is best in fire or air. A masculine Sun gives nobility and presence, especially when combined with a masculine Ascendant. Feminine Suns emit a lower force field and lack the "class" expressiveness, or dignity of their masculine counterparts

The MOON is best in water or earth. Feminine Moons give that competent, classic, or "professional" look, especially when combined with a masculine Ascendant. A particularly classic combination among women is Libra rising with Moon in Capricorn which gives Barbie doll-like features. Masculine Moons, on the other hand, are primitive by comparison, especially the fire Moons which can be animalistic in nature. Air sign Moons can be attractive, but in a bland or superficial kind of way, and then only when combined with a masculine ascendant. A feminine Moon will go a long way towards someone's professional success. Most successful employees, buisnessmen, politicians, or professional people in general have feminine Moons.

JUPITER is best in fire or air. Masculine Jupiters gives height and fullness and prominence, especially when they are combined with a masculine ascendant. Feminine Jupiters lack the enthusiasm, grandeur, and the moral fibre of their masculine counterpatrs.

SATURN is best in earth or water. Feminine Saturns give fine form, definition, sturdiness, and endurance, especially when they are combined with a masculine ascendant. Saturn especially affects the hair, skin, nails, teeth, and bones in general. Masculine Saturns lack the finesse or control of their feminine counterpatrs.

NEPTUNE is best in the water or Earth signs. Feminine Neptunes add grace, sensitivity, and refinement to one's physical features whereas masculine Neptunes give hard and almost clod-like features. I've noticed, for example, how many young people with Neptune in Sagittartius have long skinny legs with large feet.

PLUTO is best in water or Earth. A Feminine Pluto adds depth, contrast, magnetism, and femininity to the appearance whearas a masculine Pluto can look haunting and almost bisexual in nature. Many with Pluto in Cancer, for example, have a jovial and domesticated look. Pluto in Leo people have a brilliant but icy gaze. Those with Pluto in Virgo have a chic or "high-definition" look to them. Pluto in Libra is often noted for its slim-model or cerebral look, and so on.

I am uncertain about MERCURY's true rulership so I will not make any particular judgement on it, except to say that it appears to give a youthful and childish appearance when in the air signs.

The MIDHEAVEN is even more unclear to me. What effect it has, if any, on the physical appearance has hardly been touched upon and requires further research.


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posted November 17, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, um, one planet is it's fall or detriment won't ruin a person...???

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posted November 17, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm ... perhaps my Libra rising bumps my ugliness up to invisible then lol

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posted November 17, 2011 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ If you still attract partners who cares if you're ugly. They can't see it! lol
That's what I say to my ugly self (!)

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posted November 17, 2011 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
And, um, one planet is it's fall or detriment won't ruin a person...???


no; marilyn monroe had venus in aries and though there is lots more in her chart, she's like the ultimate icon for beauty.

if that website was your only research, i really would've preferred you started off your thread mentioning that so that everyone and you would've been on common ground.. i'll be honest and say that towards that last bit where you posted before i did and signed off for the day, i left and wouldn't have bothered to ever read anything you posted ever, again.

i think this is the first time i've seen one of your threads so i was taking your word of 'research' at face value but towards the end, started feeling a little bit resentful because it's as if i was being taken for a spin and i don't, not even in the least, appreciate that and i don't think that anybody else will; time is money; you don't go to a cosmetology student to get your hair colored and cut, do you? had u gone and they told you that 'they knew what they were doing' and that they had done it 'thousands of times'

..but when u get up and look in the mirror after your rinse and you're shocked to see that your hair has turned a greenish purple and a disgusting blue, tell me, would you be somewhat p!s$ed? what about if she then tells you 'i don't understand, i followed the directions just like it says on the box'...

i think it's safe to say that anyone would've opened her up a new one and i'm no different; if i ever even read one of your threads, i honestly don't think i'll be one commenting.

but to answer your question, no, planets in fall/detriment don't work against a person.. what they do is express themselves in a way that is totally not what the planet is all about which can make it more obvious and have the person sticking out like a sore thumb.

to get more clues as to how it works out a little more, it's a good thing to look at the sign and see where the sign's ruler is.

for ex.

venus in aries
you would look to see where mars is
say, mars is in capricorn,
conjunct neptune..

the story then becomes a little different

i used that example because mars is exalted in capricorn and venus is debilitated in aries but mars and neptune together, can make the neptune (the higher octave of venus) such a thing that the person could be a walking Casablanca film.

now that i think about it, i think gaga has that, actually.. she may or may not be what some people consider to be beautiful or attractive, i don't know, but i think it's more than safe to say that she's pretty much claimed every territory in the world of fashion and just about everything else!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVrSx9-LqCE

she'll be an icon for quite some time.

i don't think i can count with a one single hand the people that might've even heard of mugler before she started working with them.

lady gaga has mercury in pisces (not it's 'strongest' placement) and she has made a living out of writing songs for others before she wrote for herself.

now i hope that helped because i don't want to elaborate any further and i won't come back; i don't want to flip off because you tried to color my hair and flip off is the last thing i'd do if somebody did that as i'd probably have them swallow what's left of the solution before pouring all of the shampoo all over their face.

u don't want that;

..neither do i.


so,

cheers!
..to fame! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyN5157_Xos

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posted November 17, 2011 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Medusa in Capricorn house 8
Conjunct Uranus
Trine Mercury
Opposes Chiron
Sextile Atalante

but oooo I have Hera in Cancer
Trines Pluto and my Moon

I have Aphrodite in Leo
square Mercury
opposite mean Node
opposite true Node

I would consider my self psychically attractive for the most part.

A few flaws but I am mostly happy.(I could use a nose job, and be tighter in my stomach) And others seem to notice my attractive qualities. (I have a nice genuine smile, deep eyes, D cups, nice butt, fine hair)

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posted November 18, 2011 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask
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Oh tuxy, you're so cool. I would totally swoon if I could.

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posted November 18, 2011 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ If you still attract partners who cares if you're ugly. They can't see it! lol
That's what I say to my ugly self (!)

Ahhh yes.
I must have a penchant for blind men, or blind men have a penchant for me

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posted November 18, 2011 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mysticknowflake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Hera is 2 degrees Leo (2nd House) and in a trine to my Sun with a two degree orb.

Isis is in 11th house Taurus and sextiling my Venus and mercury conjunction in Pisces. With and exact to my mercury.

Aphrodite is in my rising sign, altho not making an aspect to my ascnd and in opposition with my moon. In sextile with my saturn. squaring my venus.

Athena is in exact sextile with my moon,sextile with my mars and north node.
Opposition with my jupiter and trining my ascendant.

I have venus in pisces (Feminine) conjunct MC and I have a masculine ascendant (Gemini).

Looks as if I stacked the deck. LOL

BUT, I believe that beauty is truly from within. I've seen quite a few attractive people who are truly ugly and some very unattractive people who are quite beautiful and when you have the whole pkg. That is amazing and should never be taking for granted.

I have my Venus in Pisces and mars in Aries.

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posted November 18, 2011 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mysticknowflake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tuxedoMask!~

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posted November 18, 2011 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is super interesting.
I'm not really a beauty but these are my aspects:

Aphrodite conjunct Sun
Hera conjunct Venus
Hera conjunct Mercury

I don't think any of the aspects are exact, so I guess it doesn't count?

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posted November 18, 2011 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes chiron was supposed to be ugly. But I have chiron in 1st conj asc and people think im hot, I'm a libra sun, taurus rising tho. Also zane stein says a lot of complimentary things about chiron asc. I would think that physical beauty would mostly be from venus and positive aspects to sun and asc, not so much from asteroids...

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posted November 18, 2011 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The website mentioned was somewhat simplistic. Interesting, but only a small part of the big picture.

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posted November 18, 2011 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Irina Shayk

Sun Capricorn 16
Moon Scorpio ?
Mercury Capricorn 1
Venus Capricorn 13
Mars Scorpio 14
Pluto Scorpio 7
Aprodite Scorpio 16

I'm betting she is a Libra Asc.

Doutzen Kroes

Sun Aquarius 3
Moon Pisces ?
Venus Pisces 20
Mars Pisces 22
Jupiter Capricorn 26
North Node 24 Taurus
Hera Taurus 22
Psyche Pisces 10
Athene Aquarius 0

Looks like Venus is her chart ruler as well.


Oh and Salma Hayek and Adriana Lima both have Aprodite opposition Sun as well.

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posted November 19, 2011 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LibraRising isn't the most accurate site out there... many of their rising sign celebs aren't actually those signs (even the ones that they claim is correct.. not just the rando guesses).

And not every model is going to have Venus rising lol.

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posted November 19, 2011 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 19, 2011 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what about dudes...and having asteroids like Hercules, Lancealot, all those handsome guy asteroids prominent.

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posted November 19, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
LibraRising isn't the most accurate site out there... many of their rising sign celebs aren't actually those signs (even the ones that they claim is correct.. not just the rando guesses).

And not every model is going to have Venus rising lol.


No but its clear those two do. I can tell by their brows. :P

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posted August 29, 2014 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 29, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom was extremely beautiful and she has Sun conj Hera conj Eros in Scorpio, Neptune conj Sun, Neptune conj Mercury, Capricorn Ascendant, Virgo Moon conj Libra Venus, Hathor conj Moon.


She still hasn't completely lost her looks.

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posted August 29, 2014 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, Librarising is a disgusting propaganda site and the person who made it should be ashamed to be an "astrologer" and to be born.

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I have Apollonas sextile Isis(42) and Artemis conjunct Isis, but that's it.
What about these asteroids aspecting Venus-Aphrodite?

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Apollonas-Sun
Hermes-Mercury
Aphrodite-Venus
Gaia-Earth
Artemis-Moon
Ares-Mars
Dios-Jupiter
Kronos-Saturn
Ouranos-Uranus
Poseidonas-Neptune
Hades-Pluto
Persephone-h57 Proserpine
Tyche-h49 Nibiru
Now please stop asking which asteroids I'm using? ^_^'
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