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Moonfish
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posted November 18, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with someone exact orb, we also have Sun conjunct Venus. What does this aspect mean in composite?

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posted November 18, 2011 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to know too as i have the same thing and both make a conjunction to my natal jupiter/mars+venus midpoint

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posted November 18, 2011 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NN is your destiny and what your soul strives for. It's what's going to happen no matter what. So I guess in the composite chart the relationship and the love you share seems to be connected to each of your goals and directions. And the destiny of the relationship is love.. or whatever venus represents in the chart.

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posted November 18, 2011 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the sound of that
does that mean if you share this aspect with a friend that it will increase chances of the relationship growing into something more?

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posted November 18, 2011 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, odds are it will turn into something more.

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posted November 18, 2011 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonfish, just thought you'd like to read this: http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PA302&lpg=PA302&dq=%22composite%22+%22venus+conjunct+north+node%22&source=bl&ots=tzG1V64W3o&sig=eQWVKOvVFSo-aE0DZfZVEyLj4Do&hl=en&e i=NZTGToLvO5Oltwe6qcHTCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

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posted November 18, 2011 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read that Venus conjunct the Sun in composites are fairly common. There seems to be some truth to this; I went back and looked at the composites with some exes and saw it occur somewhat frequently.

Venus conjunct NN in composite is probably good, but I think a more telling indicator would be what aspects the two's planets make to one another's North Nodes in the actual synastry chart. Simply because, synastry will show how the two impact one another and how they interact. A composite chart is basically about the relationship itself as a separate unit, it wouldn't have the same significance as one person's venus falling on the other's NN in synastry, would.

I've actually read too that you aren't even supposed to use a composite chart unless there is actually a romantic relationship going on, that basically they're useless if the two people haven't committed to one another and formed a unit yet.

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posted November 18, 2011 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct the NN sounds fantastic. What better than having your relationship defined by the planet of love!

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posted November 18, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

I've actually read too that you aren't even supposed to use a composite chart unless there is actually a romantic relationship going on, that basically they're useless if the two people haven't committed to one another and formed a unit yet.


it is also useful (if you understand how to accurately read it) to see if it would be a relationship that you would want to pursue, or not.

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posted November 18, 2011 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Venus conjunct the NN sounds fantastic. What better than having your relationship defined by the planet of love!


interesting.

ami, have u participated in lioness' and lonake's thread about the old composites?

it's what's being discussed there..

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posted November 18, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
it is also useful (if you understand how to accurately read it) to see if it would be a relationship that you would want to pursue, or not.


That's...not true.

The composite is basically a relationship's birth chart; it shows its personality, temperament, that kind of thing. If there is actually no relationship yet then it's the wrong chart to look at and essentially useless.

No advanced or professional astrologer would look at a composite chart for two people who actually aren't together - they'd all tell the OP to put that chart aside and look at the actual synastry.

I've gotten this from reading the Astrodienst forums for years and years, watching person after person post composite charts for someone they're interested in, only to have the members (some of whom are actually practicing, professional astrologers) ask them for a synastry chart instead and tell them in so many words that looking at the composite is worthless.

Besides, if the two people are truly compatible, that will readily show itself in the synastry as well as any composite chart.

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posted November 18, 2011 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

That's...not true.

The composite is basically a relationship's birth chart; it shows its personality, temperament, that kind of thing. If there is actually no relationship yet then it's the wrong chart to look at and essentially useless.


uh, no, it isn't.. a composite is calculated using the midpoint of both charts averaged together.. unless your natal chart has been changing every single day that you've been living, the composite will remain the same regardless of when the person and them got together, or not.

it is relevant and not at all useless.. it isn't just 'synastry' once the two are together; just to clarify, the composite is NOT the birth chart of anything!

the composite is the relationship.. whether it exists or not, one gets to choose and looking at the composite does help one see what their relationship together might have to do with.

it's great to read but when you put it into practice, things are a little different.

(progressions are not what i'll be delving into here) unless one of the partner's of the composite is changed, the composite stay's the same.

period.

**(some people like to dip their toe in the pool before jumping in)

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

Besides, if the two people are truly compatible, that will readily show itself in the synastry as well as any composite chart.

there's some lots of truth to this and i agree. i think it works that way with so many parts of astrology even if one decides to look at asteroids (which i find only to reflect what the planets are already saying)

but the composite showing what the synastry show's isn't true.

that'd be like saying that the midpoints of your natal were 'irrelevant' and that is certainly not the case.

the composite chart can indicate when a couple decides to get hitched or not depending if something in it is activated, bringing it (and they) into 'fruition', btw.. just an fyi.

you can also see if one of the partner's would be more inclined than the other to want to pursue a relationship with them based on how the composite sits with their natal; needless to say, a person with jupiter conjunct venus in their natal and the composite sun on that natal aspect, will definitely be more inclined towards it that any other who might not be affected by it in 'that' way.

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posted December 18, 2020 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for H20AC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 18, 2020 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This should have been posted in Interpersonal Astrology. Moving it there now ...

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