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tuxedoMask
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posted November 22, 2011 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Russell Grant has claimed he foresaw Princess Diana's death 21 days before a fateful car crash ended her life.

In a series of wild claims, the astrologer insists he warned Diana not to travel with Dodi and, shockingly, alleges that the Princess was murdered.

Speaking to the Radio Times, the Strictly Come Dancing star told how his prediction of Diana's demise was printed in a newspaper on 10 August 1997.

'I basically said their relationship was so fated it was going to end in tears,' he said.

'And she died on 31 August.'

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The car which killed Diana, Dodi and the chauffeur crashed at 00.27 (22.27 GMT) on 31st August, 1997 in Paris [ 48N52 ; 2E20 ]. 18º GEM 12' rises

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posted November 22, 2011 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That gave me the chills. I think she was murdered, too, though.

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posted November 22, 2011 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How heartbreaking. It`s incredible that he told her about his prediction just 21 days before her death. I guess there are some things that can`t be avoided.

On another note, I wouldn`t be surprised if he had an idea about how killed her but is keeping quiet.

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posted November 22, 2011 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That stellium in her 8th is so eerie.

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posted November 22, 2011 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we know members of the Royal family are forbidden from getting involved in politics. The Cancer-Aquarius before her was forced to abdicate his position for not following the party line...

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posted November 22, 2011 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the date of the event had mars making a square to uranus and jupiter

pluto in early degrees of sagittarius (preparing to enter her twelfth) made a square to diana's natal uranus, pluto and mars at the same time as it squared prince charles' saturn while the sun made a conjunction to her stellium (and north node. the accident took place in a tunnel) and his natal saturn in early virgo.

mars was conjunct prince charles' mercury and diana's neptune.

saturn (retrograding) made a conjunction to dodi fayed's sun

uranus made a conjunction to diana's natal jupiter and begun it's transit through prince charles' seventh/descendant which all took place as saturn was retrograding through his tenth house after having had made an earlier conjunction to his midheaven.

jupiter was making a square to fayed's saturn and the supposed story of what happened earlier that day, was that they were out at a jewelry store looking at engagement rings for diana; the only survivor from the accident, trevor rees-jones (employed by sayed) denies having taken place in any conspiracy as well as denying their being out shopping for a ring.

he said that he can't remember much after getting into the mercedes-benz.

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Trevor Rees-Jones (also known as Trevor Rees; born 1968) is the former bodyguard of Diana, Princess of Wales, and Dodi Fayed. He was badly injured in the car accident that killed Diana, Dodi, and their driver Henri Paul. Because he suffered a head injury in the crash, Rees-Jones does not recall particulars of the accident. Early media reports claimed he survived because he was wearing a seatbelt.[1] However, a December 2006 Operation Paget technical examination said that none of the occupants of the car were wearing seat belts at the time of the collision.

was the driver drinking?

he was employed by sayed and was the deputy head of security at the hotel ritz (owned by sayed) and was born on 3 July 1956.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
t.Neptune (h3 ruler) conj Saturn EXACT and t.Mars conj Neptune, Mars is part of that eerie conj to Pluto natally in the 8th.
t.Uranus conj n.Jupiter (Asc ruler) EXACT. Uranus also in the 8th natally, sq Venus, implying the partner. Ooh ahh.
Prog Asc puts natal H8 stellium in the 7th, that implies the partner.
Something else that is creepy, Mars is H4 ruler and t.Mars was conj n.Neptune ruler of the 3rd for car accidents.

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Transiting Neptune conjunct your natal Saturn. This can be a very difficult transit. Saturn represents the reality that we perceive due to our agnoia, but Neptune represents a different level of reality where paradoxes are common. This is a time when your beliefs may be questioned and found inadequate. As you become increasingly disoriented, you will probably question what is real and what is not. Often this transit coincides with a great disappointment that leads to disillusionment, self doubt and lack of self confidence. Fear is also a common problem at this time, especially irrational fear with no obvious basis. Often it feels like the structures upon which you have built your life, and have come to depend on, are no longer dependable.

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Transiting Uranus conjunct your natal Jupiter. You may have surprisingly good luck. Normally something happens that allows you newfound freedom or the possibility for new enterprises that you have not considererd before. You also have a restlessness within you and are ready to make significant changes in your life in order to keep things from becoming stale. Sometimes this transit indicates a lucky break in a gamble. You are ready to see things from a fresh perspective. Your philosophy of life is likely to be more inclusive and far reaching. It is an excellent time for studying occult disciplines.

If Jupiter is lord of your 1st house, your path in life may take an unexpected turn during this period. An opportunity comes that opens up new possibilities that you may not have considered before. You will have to think quickly.


Seems like a perfect time for a death by 'accident.' So interesting, I love studying death in charts.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ what was most eerie, was the pluto making a square aspect to diana's mars.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Mars is activated natally w.the conj to Pluto in the 8th. Doesn't need much of a trigger (!) Perfect astro set-up, on all accounts.

t.Node was squaring Asc axis, expected to see it activated just a bit more. t.Pluto had been squaring n.NN, but even still it was off at time of death.

Actually the eerie part has more to do w.Mars as H4 ruler.

She had Saturn conj Chiron 2 ways there, breaking away from outmoded ways of living. I guess someone didn't like that.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
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i'm not sure if you know this, but the chart's that you're posting *(what confused me about the obama thread) isn't showing the transit's that you're writing out.. it's progression.. progressions and transits are not the same thing.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I know, I'm looking at transits on a different site.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
progressions and transits are not the same thing.

The progressions are in green, remember? Believe, I double check aspects to make sure I am not spouting out incorrect info

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posted November 22, 2011 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake,what about Natalie Wood? Her death gets reinvestigated!

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posted November 23, 2011 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You will never fall apart; Diana you're still in our hearts.
Never let you fall apart; together we'll dance in the dark."

That's crazy, the astrologer's dreams (and I mean that it's like, shocking or something).

I hope this isn't insensitive, but did anyone else notice Princess Diana can be rearranged to spell End Is A Car Spin?

My cousin showed me that...

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posted November 23, 2011 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Lonake,what about Natalie Wood? Her death gets reinvestigated!

Yea I wonder what kind of transits she is under? Strange I read the story when it first broke on CNN and they sounded like they were jumping the gun, then they backtracked a bit on Wagner's involvement, now it seems the case is being reopened by L.A. Sheriff's Dept. It doesn't seem much will come of it but who knows (?) Maybe you want to open a thread about it?

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posted November 23, 2011 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Yea I wonder what kind of transits she is under? Strange I read the story when it first broke on CNN and they sounded like they were jumping the gun, then they backtracked a bit on Wagner's involvement, now it seems the case is being reopened by L.A. Sheriff's Dept. It doesn't seem much will come of it but who knows (?) Maybe you want to open a thread about it?[/B]

I wanted,then I remembered I don't have image host account When I saw her classic looks,and her big 3 (ultra feminine,Can Sun,Lib.Asc,Tau Moon) my attention drifted into new waters. (pun non intended)
What I noticed without much looking is
* tSaturn over her Asc,opposing nSaturn; Saturn natally rules H4
* tNeptune conj nJupiter in H5,Neptune natally rules H6
*tUranus trining her H10 stellium of nPluto,nMars and nSun,they rule natally H2,H11,H7 respectively.
* Soon will tSaturn sq nSun and nMars (H7 ruler)

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posted November 23, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat Face     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tuxedoMask (everybody),

Official ruling is an accident; driver Henri Paul was drunk and speeding trying to evade the paparazzi.

I believe it was an accident. I don't think her death was plotted, but I do think, as she did, that she was being watched (got rid of bodyguards because of this.)

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posted November 23, 2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was never an official report released on the vehicle. Even Mercedes-Benz could not explain why the car could have crashed that badly.

I owned the very same 1999 Mercedes S600 (in black too) and know the limits of that vehicle. I race cars as a hobby.

Unless Henri Paul, the driver, was really able to go in excess of 100 mph down that tunnel, it doesn't seem conceivable that the backseat passengers could have died even if they weren't wearing seat belts (of course they weren't wearing seat belts).

Paris traffic is notoriously heavy, even at night. I have driven through the very same Pont de l'Alma tunnel in Paris (not in that car) and could go no faster than 65 km/h or under 40 mph. Note that the two ambulances could travel no more than 10 mph to get to the crash site.

Something smells very foul IMO. The vehicle is said to have swerved sharply left first, and Henri Paul over-compensated by swerving to the right, and thus the vehicle spun into the tunnel wall. Sounds to me that somebody sabotaged the steering linkage, or that the tyres/tires were intentionally compromised such that they would blow out. Even then, I have had total tire blowouts in a Mercedes on a freeway at 80 mph in a bend, and nothing happens. The car easily controls and slows down itself.

I have also swerved the vehicle sharply on US freeways at high rates of speed to avoid accidents and the vehicle had always been rock solid, as it ought to be. The vehicle is rated at 250 km/h or 155 mph on the German autobahn, and that is far from its top speed.

That of course does not account for Henri Paul being stone drunk.

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posted November 23, 2011 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat Face     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The case was doomed from the beginning when it took forever to get her to the hospital. Instead of en route, I think it's French procedure to stabilize a patient on scene (it would have been a fatal night for anyone with the injury she had.) A drunk driver was speeding and slammed into a pillar. I don't buy a conspiracy. It was badly handled accident and, yes, sloppy investigation.

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posted November 23, 2011 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cat Face:
Official ruling is an accident

Yea, the investigators don't always get it right, now do they? How many people are wrongfully imprisoned, too many hands in the fire in hot cases. Gets messy.

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posted November 23, 2011 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I wanted,then I remembered I don't have image host account

I can post her chart if you start a new thread., from imageshack.

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posted November 24, 2011 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
[b] I wanted,then I remembered I don't have image host account


I can post her chart if you start a new thread., from imageshack.[/B][/QUOTE]

aw,u r a doll
But... http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/9027504-452/no-charges-expected-in-investigation-of-natalie-woods-death.html

And I even opened the account! (Couldn't let u do the work,I am a gentleman..woman )

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