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lindisfarne
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posted November 25, 2011 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't mean to but you do it by bringing them back to reality showing/telling the the harsh reality of everything?

Okay well I opened up to my mother, about everything every single little thing including things that wounded her including my father and his abuse. I had to. As I tried to explain why I wasn't close with her she took it the wrong way and thought it was an attack. She blew up you know had a tantrum. I opened up about a lot.. it's the first time I've ever let my mother see me bawling.

But then she couldn't handle it so she tried to fight me... and I was being understanding and let her yell and scream then I went to her room and saw her crying. I must have said a lot to open up specific wounds but they needed to be done. Maybe this will finally bring us closer together since she always asks why I hate her? It's not hate, it's years of suppressing anger/hurt.

But ya what do you do when you've made a super Aries go to that point? She said she will never forgive me but she is all talk.. but idk! never forgive me for opening up I guess!

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posted November 25, 2011 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from what i'v gathered is they'll cry for a bit, and some of them will realize your right (depending on the situation)....but my sister (an aries) i dont think i'v seen her cry....at least, i'v never made her cry

they shouldnt hold it against you...but it depends on how much water/fire they have...if they have more fire than water, they'll forgive you easier, if they have more water, they might hold a grudge more

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 25, 2011 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an aries rising (as well as sun conj mars), in the first decan so I'm pretty aries like (though obv I have other traits from my other placements) and I find that I hate crying in front of anyone.
When something upsets me, and I really don't want to cry I keep telling myself I'm too strong to cry and that I refuse to cry.
Aries puts on this tough side, but there's a soft side also. They just want to appear resilient always. I find that I'm pretty tough and can handle alot of things other people seem to have trouble dealing with.

So if you do make an aries cry, they get really flustered cos they don't want people to see that side of them. Most likely they'll walk away to cry in peace lol.

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posted November 25, 2011 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I'm an aries rising (as well as sun conj mars), in the first decan so I'm pretty aries like (though obv I have other traits from my other placements) and I find that I hate crying in front of anyone.
When something upsets me, and I really don't want to cry I keep telling myself I'm too strong to cry and that I refuse to cry.
Aries puts on this tough side, but there's a soft side also. They just want to appear resilient always.

that kind of sounds more like a scorpio trait

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 25, 2011 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No scorpios just don't want to express emotion (love, fear, sadness). Aries like to appear tough, but they still express emotions lol, they're passionate afterall... just don't like to show weakness.

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posted November 25, 2011 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
You don't mean to but you do it by bringing them back to reality showing/telling the the harsh reality of everything?

Okay well I opened up to my mother, about everything every single little thing including things that wounded her including my father and his abuse. I had to. As I tried to explain why I wasn't close with her she took it the wrong way and thought it was an attack. She blew up you know had a tantrum. I opened up about a lot.. it's the first time I've ever let my mother see me bawling.

But then she couldn't handle it so she tried to fight me... and I was being understanding and let her yell and scream then I went to her room and saw her crying. I must have said a lot to open up specific wounds but they needed to be done. Maybe this will finally bring us closer together since she always asks why I hate her? It's not hate, it's years of suppressing anger/hurt.

But ya what do you do when you've made a super Aries go to that point? She said she will never forgive me but she is all talk.. but idk! never forgive me for opening up I guess!


They get combative as f.uck and start trying to do things to save face. Basically just think of what a four year old does when they don't get their way and start throwing a tantrum and you've basically figured it out.

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posted November 25, 2011 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
No scorpios just don't want to express emotion (love, fear, sadness). Aries like to appear tough, but they still express emotions lol, they're passionate afterall... just don't like to show weakness.

well....yea....i guess a normal scorpio is like that, LOL

i'm not a normal scorpio

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 25, 2011 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ haha why? Are you heavy in fire or air??

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posted November 25, 2011 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
^ haha why? Are you heavy in fire or air??

nope, actuall just the opposite...i have sun, pluto and mars in scorpio, jupiter in cancer...gemini ascendant, absolutely no air placements, moon in leo and mercury in sag...thats it...the rest of the planets are in cap

edit: i even have lack of secrecy, LOL

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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lindisfarne
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posted November 25, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Belligerent
I agree that's what she was doing lol!!!
trying to fight me Lol I was like "no I'm not going to hit you I don't use violence."

she basically did what you said and was being mean etc but I'm guessing that's their defense mechanism...also she has a lot of fire in her chart not much water.... lol!

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posted November 25, 2011 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg mars in scorpio, when they get upset, THEY GET UPSET! I know some people that have it and woah, talk about scary. They blow up in a different way compared to aries. Aries blow up and cool down quick, scorpios get like out of control at times.

And think it's your leo moon and sag mercury that makes you alot more open, which is a good thing!

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posted November 25, 2011 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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omg mars in scorpio, when they get upset, THEY GET UPSET! I know some people that have it and woah, talk about scary. They blow up in a different way compared to aries. Aries blow up and cool down quick, scorpios get like out of control at times.

and this is what i'm talking about...i dont do this...it might have to do with the fact venus sextiles my mars and pluto

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 25, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you made her cry you must have crossed some line.
No she won't hold it against you, but she'll force herself to let you go and then indifference.

You may have lost your most staunch supporter and her unconditional love.

It sounds to me like you are desperate to hurt your Mother (She's the Aries?)
From the beginning you have Bashed them (Aries) at every opportunity.

Be careful what you wish for.

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posted November 25, 2011 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is such a personal relationship in your life. Why are you making it about 'Aries'?

It is you and your mother. Period. The same mother you've known since the day you were born. Do you have any emotional connection with her?

We are all people you know - with souls and psychological make-ups. We've all had teary eyed arguments with our mom!

I am very interested in astrology and that's why I am on this site in the first place. But I don't like it when something so personal in your life - is under a thread name like "What happens when an Aries cries?"
This isn't "an Aries"... This is your mother.
I think you are losing sight of your connection... and focusing too much on the signs.

There was a really disturbed man on the news some time ago - I can't remember his name but I know he did some awful, disgusting things to his daughters while they were locked up for years in the basement. This man was an Aries Sun. Do you think Astrology teaches that your mother and him and Elton John and Ewan McGregor are all the same person?

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posted November 25, 2011 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BB, his name is Josef Fritzl April 9,1935

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posted November 25, 2011 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I think for her to react that strongly it was just a nerve being touched. Hope she'll feel better soon?

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posted November 25, 2011 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you made her cry you must have crossed some line.
No she won't hold it against you, but she'll force herself to let you go and then indifference.

You may have lost your most staunch supporter and her unconditional love.

It sounds to me like you are desperate to hurt your Mother (She's the Aries?)
From the beginning you have Bashed them (Aries) at every opportunity.

Be careful what you wish for.


you don't know anything
she's not supportive at all
she's abusive I have my reasons for having a turbulent relationship with my mother

I havent bashed them at every opportunity
I'm gonna let this go cause you're ignorant (you don't know the story)

I didn't want to hurt her intentionally either

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posted November 25, 2011 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm ignorant?
Well you're transparent.

and yes I do know what's going on
I have read all of your posts
and it always goes back to the same thing
ARIES

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posted November 25, 2011 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If she has been in the wrong somehow, then when she realizes it (if she hasn't already, and hasn't been carrying around a lot of guilt and shame), then she will most likely say so.

Nobody can speak for all Aries, because I'm usually one to let things go (most things), or to forgive and try to let things be, but I'm not feeling myself anymore (I feel so weird, and don't like it). I was in an argument with my sister the other night, and steeling myself against hurtful things; the next day, I was okay, and she was surprised that I was acting as though nothing had happened. I don't know why she was surprised, because I've *always* been that way - especially with her. With her, I know there's nothing (deliberately) malicious behind her words, but if there are, then I will most likely continue to see red, every time I'm around someone, unless a) the situation is resolved, or b) I just don't need to be around them anymore.

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posted November 25, 2011 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom is a Cancer with Aries Moon and our fights are exactly like the one you described (though she also enjoys playing the "well if you don't like it then I'll just withhold love from you, then you'll be sorry you ever shared with me your inner pain").

I have found the struggle to get her to understand me a lost cause. I have never seen her capable of enduring anything which may be seen as failure on her part. Automatically she becomes combative or turns on the TV and just tunes me out.

It was difficult, but I just had to accept that she is incapable of dealing with it. Fortunately, if I just pretend like we never had the conversation, she warms up and it's back to business as usual. It has been a big learning experience for me in accepting people at their level, and not expecting them to act the way I demand them to act. Overall it's her who is missing out on the relationship and her who has to live with the consequences of her actions. I am capable of enjoying my own loves and successes without having to constantly focus on the hurts which lead me to become a strong person.

Good luck, it's rough having parents who are more like your children LOL

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lindis - I will pretend I am replying to you in LL Central.. and forget you brought sun-signs into this.. because this is not a sun-sign issue.

As I understand it - you opened up about things you had bottled up for a long time. Things that hurt you and made you feel bad. I know this would've been very hard for you and I understand that you did this because you wanted to clear the air - right? I mean, I think your intentions were to somehow get these problems in the open so you can discuss them with your mom to somehow make *peace* between you.. or at least get a clean slate.. so you can try to start over.

But instead of understanding your emotional pain and your perspective on things, your mom took your words personally as an offense and a personal insult to her and to the way she treated you... as though you were saying "You are a bad mother!".... when really you were trying to say "Mom - You HURT me!" .
I know that you are upset right now and maybe this won't help.. but there aren't many parents out there who would react differently. If I told my mom something related to her that upset me in the past.. she would also think I'm blaming her (in fact she has!), and we're friends - but she would still take it this way.

It's such a mother-thing to do... to react this way. The reason is that most parents and most mothers try to do the best for their children (in their minds).. They want to do it properly. They want to be good parents.. but obviously sometimes they fail, or they stuff up - If I had a penny for every person I know who has issues with their parents! We're human and we make mistakes, some bigger than others. No parents are going to be perfect -- I don't know anyone who has ever said "My parents (or children) are perfect people! I wouldn't change one thing about them!".

But I really think - as Teasel said.. that your mom will think about this and come around!
I know it has affected her since she cried and even though she took offense.. I don't think what you said will fly over her head. I think it was a good thing that you made the effort to really open up and tell her everything even if it sounded harsh - It's better that you got it out.

I'm sending you love and I am hoping that this situation will actually be a good thing in the end and it will get you communicating more and eventually bring you closer! Sometimes after a huge argument comes a huge make-up.

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posted November 26, 2011 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only time I've made an Aries cry was when I beat the crap out of her. We were like 7 years old though..so don't judge lol

Actually I made my first boyfriend cry and he is an Aries...i yelled at him in front of my family and he was embarrassed , he went outside and turned on his stereo really loud and blasted some spanish love songs..i felt like a total b*tch.

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posted November 26, 2011 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fleurdelis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They will be angry and want revenge. High type or low type Aries? High type will let it go. Low type will never let it go and torture you forever. They are vengeful to the extreme, be careful. Best to distance from her instead of feeding her anger. To answer your question, no your mum will never understand you, she sees things only from her perspective, never from yours.

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posted November 26, 2011 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
You don't mean to but you do it by bringing them back to reality showing/telling the the harsh reality of everything?

Okay well I opened up to my mother, about everything every single little thing including things that wounded her including my father and his abuse. I had to. As I tried to explain why I wasn't close with her she took it the wrong way and thought it was an attack. She blew up you know had a tantrum. I opened up about a lot.. it's the first time I've ever let my mother see me bawling.

But then she couldn't handle it so she tried to fight me... and I was being understanding and let her yell and scream then I went to her room and saw her crying. I must have said a lot to open up specific wounds but they needed to be done. Maybe this will finally bring us closer together since she always asks why I hate her? It's not hate, it's years of suppressing anger/hurt.

But ya what do you do when you've made a super Aries go to that point? She said she will never forgive me but she is all talk.. but idk! never forgive me for opening up I guess!



You might've been bawling but from the way you come across here I can't imagine how your words struck her in real life. Not being rude, I know you've talked about your "handicap" per se being blunt, or saying the wrong things at the wrong time.

My mom is an Aries and if she's trying to fight me it's 'cause she's that frustrated and doesn't know how else to get through to me. It's unhealthy, yes, but it seems to be the only way I know I need to simmer down. She's your mother - she'll forgive you. She's also being an Aries by crying in private. Aries often don't let anyone see how they really feel 'cause they like to give off this tough "F you" bravado even though it's all air. You got through to her, now just give her space to process everything and decide where to go from there. She's an Aries so I'm assuming she'll want to take the lead.

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posted November 26, 2011 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:

Good luck, it's rough having parents who are more like your children LOL



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