posted November 26, 2011 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:
Do let them know how much you appreciate them.
Do understand that with them it's sometimes a double standard.
Don't try to play mind games with them (only they can do that)
Don't come home real late one night and tell them you were only drinking with your "guy buddies"

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posted November 26, 2011 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by defeat:

do assume that they know you better than you think

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LMAO.

posted November 26, 2011 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by defeat:
don't assume you understand them
do assume that they know you better than you think

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allow me to amend that for you
"do assume they know whats going on....or pay attention to the small details"

i often pick up on small stuff and i always think its normal for a person to pick up on those things so i'll start talking and throw in my observations and the people i'm talking to always seem surprised that i did know that

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 26, 2011 10:39 PM            

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 27, 2011 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
^ 9 out of 10 times, the reason a scorpio knows you better than you know them or yourself is because scorpio pays attention more, as is afore mentioned

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I don't agree with this. Not if they have 'only' a Scorpio sun. A Pluto in Scorpio, will be likely to do the same. Also, a Merc in Scorp. Even a 12th house Virgo placement would, and be all aloof about it. But, obviously these don't have to be 'a Scorpio' but are 'Scorpionic'(lol) in a way.

Merely a Sun placement in this sign is not enough to take on some of the most heralded characteristics. Maybe this can be said of all signs? Even those Scorps I know who have them 'in full bloom,' they likely have a few other really strong planets in Scorp that make them exemplify the sign...more fully. Moreover, I've seen a lot of people who are Scorps who end up 'acting out' their sign (sometimes the most destructive traits) because of what they read about the sign. And sometimes, these people have thought they 'completely knew' what was going on,' citing 'I'm a Scorp., you can't hide from me' and then happened to be embarrassingly wrong. Or the person who is only about 'Sun sign' astrology, so tries to be/act super intense about relationships and then they find out out they have moon placement that is more 'at home to them'--they make a sigh of relief. 'That makes more sense after all.' This happens to lots of signs though, I guess.

posted November 27, 2011 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I don't agree with this. Not if they have 'only' a Scorpio sun. A Pluto in Scorpio, will be likely to do the same. Also, a Merc in Scorp. Even a 12th house Virgo placement would, and be all aloof about it. But, obviously these don't have to be 'a Scorpio' but are 'Scorpionic'(lol) in a way.

Merely a Sun placement in this sign is not enough to take on some of the most heralded characteristics. Maybe this can be said of all signs? Even those Scorps I know who have them 'in full bloom,' they likely have a few other really strong planets in Scorp that make them exemplify the sign...more fully. Moreover, I've seen a lot of people who are Scorps who end up 'acting out' their sign (sometimes the most destructive traits) because of what they read about the sign. And sometimes, these people have thought they 'completely knew' what was going on,' citing 'I'm a Scorp., you can't hide from me' and then happened to be embarrassingly wrong. Or the person who is only about 'Sun sign' astrology, so tries to be/act super intense about relationships and then they find out out they have moon placement that is more 'at home to them'--they make a sigh of relief. 'That makes more sense after all.' This happens to lots of signs though, I guess.

I'm a specialist in the sign--for better or worse. Lol. Either they hate me or love me because I know most more than others. Blame it on my Scorpio South node (and like 3 other placements, maybe). I don't know. Lets just take the pressure to be so...'penetrating' and all seeing off you folks. Makes some work to hard and sabotages the true intuition that may exist by nature. :-)

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i didnt say "completely know whats going on" because i dont always know completely whats going on...but i get the gist of whats going on and i might understand more than what i lead on...and as for the rest? i didnt even mention the likes....and just like how you said what i had said is not always true, what you had said about scorpios is not true for me, and i'm not just saying that to merely disprove you

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 27, 2011 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
and just like how you said what i had said is not always true, what you had said about scorpios is not true for me, and i'm not just saying that to merely disprove you

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posted November 27, 2011 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I gotcha, no worries on your end. And, I hope I didn't come off as combative, that wasn't my intent. I enjoying talking about this sign in particular because of it...conversational/social popularity, if that makes sense.

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i am honestly going to say "thank god" LOL, because you did come off that way, and i was ready to argue it but i dont like arguing, really

and you could be right..i'll admit that...but those things just dont apply to me..i'm not your average scorpio

my chart should tell you i'm scorpio to the core, that i should be a smooth, very well talker, that i should work with kids, or go into telemarketing, or be an emotional talker (moon in the 3rd)

well, none of the above apply to me..i have a gem asc, merc conjunct sun, moon in 3rd as i'v mentioned and i stumble over my words and embarrase easily. i hate kids, and am willing to admit it..but i dont want to sound like something i'm not, yet somehow people always misinterpret my meaning...i'm an airhead, and that not me just pretending until i'm behind closed doors

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 27, 2011 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
but i dont want to sound like something i'm not, yet somehow people always misinterpret my meaning...i'm an airhead, and that not me just pretending until i'm behind closed doors

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I think we are kinda saying the same thing, but differently. I agree that you don't sound like the typical Scorpio. But I think people hear Scorpio, and assume all these things, and my point is that sometimes (well, I'd argue most of the time) it isn't true. And I guess the same can be said of all signs. But with Scorpio in particular, I think it can be dramatic how different they are (not to mention all the 'karmic levels' of Scorpio). I know some, who are only emotional about certain things, and the rest is pure logic, rationale...etc. So it is all interesting how different you all can be. And no, I def. don't want to argue either.

I'm all about love beh, beh!

posted November 27, 2011 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
i'm an airhead, and that not me just pretending until i'm behind closed doors

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Oh NickiG, I'm an airhead too. My friend thinks Virgo rising doesn't fit me because she says I'm really not grounded or earthy at all.

posted November 27, 2011 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I think we are kinda saying the same thing, but differently. I agree that you don't sound like the typical Scorpio. But I think people hear Scorpio, and assume all these things, and my point is that sometimes (well, I'd argue most of the time) it isn't true. And I guess the same can be said of all signs. But with Scorpio in particular, I think it can be dramatic how different they are (not to mention all the 'karmic levels' of Scorpio). I know some, who are only emotional about certain things, and the rest is pure logic, rationale...etc. So it is all interesting how different you all can be. And no, I def. don't want to argue either.

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yes, it is amazing how different we all are...i guess i didnt catch that you were trying to say that before too

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I'm all about love beh, beh!

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BWAHAHA, that is NOT awkward at all

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 27, 2011 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Oh NickiG, I'm an airhead too. My friend thinks Virgo rising doesn't fit me because she says I'm really not grounded or earthy at all.

I talk a lot, I laugh loud, I like to socialize and I'm very ridiculous. C:

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my dad was a virgo...you'd expect them to be somewhat chaste (to a point) but he wasnt even loyal, let alone chaste...get my drift?

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 27, 2011 10:14 PM            

oh, i also have a sag mercury...and sags are renown for their potty mouths...but i dont swear, not even the lesser bad curses

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 28, 2011 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Don't

Expect them to put down the testing and mind games. It's an ongoing, daily thing. Be prepared for it at any moment lol it never stops.

Don't expect a stable, drama free relationship. They get off on that stuff.

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I second these.

Don't always believe them. Keep your emotions on ice, so to speak.
Don't believe the hype. Sometimes you do know them better than they think.

[for the unevolved bunch.]

posted November 28, 2011 11:33 PM            

you could tell that she cared and had a connection with people that might've been more than you would expect but it would work to her detriment just the same.

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DON'T: push them more than necessary.. know their limits; they seldom really practice with their stinger but if you have them in a moment where things are intense, their stinger goes out of control and i'm not sure if they're aware that they end up primarily only stinging themselves.

DO: understand that it is not your place to help them... scorpio's are strong by themselves and don't really like being made a 'victim' out of so definitely, respect them and though you may see their sensitive side and would wish that they'd stop trying to hide it away or putting up all those tests, stand your ground and fully fight back! because if not, they can confuse their emotions as being yours and really unload all kinds of stuff so definitely, draw a line, let them know their limits and do not let them cross it; not even once! to some people, that may sound harsh (at first, it did, to me, at least) but there will be a certain respect and trust that is gained from there even if the relationships breaks away on 'bad' terms.. for scorpio's, sometimes it's been life or death and they much prefer being surrounded by people they know that have the strength to fight for them in case that they're not able to fight for themselves.. and that's where the whole testing originates from.

DO: understand that other scorpio's might toe a different line; the dynamics may be somewhat similar and though one can understand and respect that, realize that u have no obligation to them or to put up with their mess (whatever that mess may be).

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personally, i can admire scorpio and i respect them; i just know that there's a fine line between allowing them to be themselves and tolerating. if you're up for the fight, challenge them and get them into shape... because there's a wide world out there and they've gotta know how to claim their own mess otherwise they'll be constant victims to themselves!

posted November 29, 2011 01:02 AM            

Don't tell them their wrong, point blank.

Do reassure them. Constantly.

posted November 29, 2011 05:57 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
Oh I dunno...
I've been with my Scorpio for five years and our relationship is the most drama-free I've ever had. He really likes to keep things stable and happy at home.

He does dig creating drama elsewhere, though.

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posted November 29, 2011 08:26 AM            

Never mind what I said before.

I'll just say, that for anyone to put up with anyone in a relationship 'testing' them and feeling like they have to work to gain someones 'loyalty'...we have to really ask ourselves whether we are working with "what is there" for the relationship or for the "potential" of the relationship.

It is easy to fall in love with the potential and what we think a person can be because of their past relationships, their sign...etc. It doesn't really matter what sign you are. We have to look at who and what is there for the relationship and not project our ideas on it. I have learned this the hard way. If a person is making you unhappy and miserable by 'testing you,' then you are failing the real test--finding your happiness in life.

"I see...but his/her moon is nicely conjunct my Pluto in the 12th house, right on top of my sweet spot, eclipsing the sun and bringing light to my darkest moon"--meh, ok? His/her actions are also right on top of your nerves and you are not feeling fulfilled--watchagonnado about that?

Do not sit around waiting, I don't care how loyal or passionate you think they are or will be. Life will sometimes test is in ways that build character and true strength from within us--be strong enough to walk away from things that are draining you or making you unhappy. Be strong enough for you. Maybe that person might have more respect for you then, even. Or maybe not, but you'll have respect and pride for yourself.

Testing...This is how we start creating co-dependent, dysfunctional and manipulative dynamics relationships--whether the doing or the receiving. This need to control the relationship. I only know because I've been there.

This isn't aimed at Scorpio, to be clear, aside from the fact that the discourse is happening here (as it does with the sign most often). But this whole "testing" thing in general that we all sometimes do in relationships is actually less about the character of other people and more about our insecurities that we have. It is more about our fear and weakness and less about how strong someone else is. We have to be strong enough to admit that and realize the real test is not for someone else, the real test is for us evolve and move beyond such ways of relating and being with one another and let relationships grow and evolve naturally and develop real trust and security.

posted November 29, 2011 11:08 AM            

"I see...but his/her moon is nicely conjunct my Pluto in the 12th house, right on top of my sweet spot, eclipsing the sun and bringing light to my darkest moon"--meh, ok? His/her actions are also right on top of your nerves and you are not feeling fulfilled--watchagonnado about that?"

Wise words.