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Topic: Aspect strenghts .....smaller the orb the strongest
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moonpie
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posted November 28, 2011 02:10 AM
  
Sun Squ Mars - app 4:13' - power: 5.78
Venus Squ Uranus - app 5:36' - power: 7.92This is just an example but which one is stronger? The smaller the orb, the stronger right? So its Sun square Mars but when it comes to power the greater number Venus square Uranus is stronger if you had to look at it logically (the bigger number being the strongest). IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted November 28, 2011 02:14 AM
The smaller orb while it is applying would be stronger, yes. Sorry, I don't know what that program is talking about when it says power, like if that's from a formula or what. IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted November 28, 2011 02:15 AM
what if the smaller orb was NOT applying..would it still be the strongest?IP: Logged |
moonpie
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posted November 28, 2011 02:17 AM
But what about the power? I have many wide aspects but the power is like 80.56. I have to assume that is stronger only because it is a great number. The power I got it from Astro.com in Simple chart delineation by Walter Pullen under Extended Chart selection. Its like a list of your whole chart.IP: Logged |
moonpie
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posted November 28, 2011 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
what if the smaller orb was NOT applying..would it still be the strongest?
No?
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Capriquarius
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posted November 28, 2011 02:33 AM
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Sun Squ Mars - app 4:13' - power: 5.78
Venus Squ Uranus - app 5:36' - power: 7.92
This is just an example but which one is stronger? The smaller the orb, the stronger right?
You'd think, but see excerpts from the book below. quote:
So its Sun square Mars but when it comes to power the greater number Venus square Uranus is stronger if you had to look at it logically (the bigger number being the strongest).
Logically, yes. But from experience I'd say the Sun square Mars would have a greater effect at the stated orb. I don't see how Venus in Uranus would be strong at all at that orb, even when applying.IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted November 28, 2011 03:24 AM
According to Carol Rushman in "Predictive Astrology," there are rules for different planets in transit.1. transiting Moon - only powerful the few hours while it is applying 2. Sun, Merc, Venus - in effect the day before the exact hit. Not much of an effect when exact or separating. 3. Mars - effect takes place 1 degree before exact 4. Jupiter - 5-6 degrees before exact and stops at about 2 degrees separating 5. Saturn - 3-4 degrees before exact, very strong 2 degrees prior, then reaching the "eye of the storm" at exact when you think you're getting a break (this is during a hard transit), and then whiplash 1-2 degrees separating. 6. Uranus - 5-6 degrees before exact, then something happens at 0 orbs, then effects remain 2 degrees separating 7. Neptune is like a fog. In effect while 2 degrees past. 8. Pluto - starts clearing stuff out 4-5 degrees before and the effects of the transit will be felt years later because the effects will be profound. She has a lot more detail but that's the summary. Great book. IP: Logged |
moonpie
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posted November 28, 2011 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by moonpie:
But what about the power? I have many wide aspects but the power is like 80.56. I have to assume that is stronger only because it is a great number. The power I got it from Astro.com in Simple chart delineation by Walter Pullen under Extended Chart selection. Its like a list of your whole chart.
Is anyone familiar with this? And could it be that the smaller the number the stronger the aspect may also apply to the power. I doubt it though because it is in order from the greater number to the less. Its making me confused.
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Capriquarius
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posted November 28, 2011 03:28 AM
Sorry again, not familiar, but if the aspects are wide and the number for the power is accordingly high, then I'd say the lower the power, the weaker the aspect. Hope someone else sees this thread and has a definite answer.IP: Logged |
waxlobster
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posted November 28, 2011 05:11 AM
Astrodienst has a section like this (Walter Pullen I think) and there is a basic table of planetary strengths etc. which I studied personally for a while out of curiousity.The basis is if you have say Venus and Mars in Libra then traditionally Venus would be deemed as more powerful as Venus rules Libra but Mars is in fall in Libra. The statistics take all this into account, along with mutual reception, house placements, planets conjunct angles etc. So I'm guessing your Venus and/or Uranus positions are more prominent that your Mars and/or Sun positions. I personally do NOT take these elements into account. Most experienced astrologers should tell you that it is the client's reality with speaks the truth, not the statistics. If you were raised with your Mother's Sun conjunct your Mars and her chart had no aspects to your natal Venus, which planet do you think would be the most developed?  Don't worry too much about what you read, go by what you experience IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted November 28, 2011 05:51 AM
Thanks for clearing up what factors are used in the formulae. =] Sounds pretty useful to me, actually. IP: Logged |
moonpie
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posted November 28, 2011 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
I personally do NOT take these elements into account. Most experienced astrologers should tell you that it is the client's reality with speaks the truth, not the statistics.
Yeah that's true. I looked at my father's chart and he has a grand trine. If he knew how astrology worked, he would strongly disagree about that trine. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted November 28, 2011 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by moonpie:
Sun Squ Mars - app 4:13' - power: 5.78
Venus Squ Uranus - app 5:36' - power: 7.92This is just an example but which one is stronger? The smaller the orb, the stronger right? So its Sun square Mars but when it comes to power the greater number Venus square Uranus is stronger if you had to look at it logically (the bigger number being the strongest).
Sun sq Mars is stronger.The applying orb is smaller,
plus, it involves a luminary.
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted November 28, 2011 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by moonpie:
Sun Squ Mars - app 4:13' - power: 5.78
Venus Squ Uranus - app 5:36' - power: 7.92This is just an example but which one is stronger? The smaller the orb, the stronger right? So its Sun square Mars but when it comes to power the greater number Venus square Uranus is stronger if you had to look at it logically (the bigger number being the strongest).
You've got it right; the smaller the orb, the stronger the aspect. IP: Logged |
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