posted November 28, 2011 05:51 AM            

Aspects/Placements of chicks/hot girls&studs/charm/Attractive Personality
-Sun conjunct venus
-Venus/Mars
-Pluto or Mars in 8th
-Venus or Mars in scorpio
-Venus in 12th house
-Venus on AC
-Sometimes Venus/Jupiter
-Mars/PLuto
-Sun or Moon/PLuto
-Uranus/Ascendant

Aspects/Placements of survival,gut instincts/ Nine lives, protective intuition
-Moon/PLuto
-Sun/Pluto
-Jupiter in 6th houses(this placement gives luck in health and other luck and strenght through destroying of enemies)
-Pluto in 8th house
-Mars/Uranus
-Jupiter in 12th house
-Pluto in 12th house
-PLuto in 4th house(since 4th house is ruled by moon but i am not sure of it)
-Moon in scorpio
-Sun good aspects to uranus makes someone regenarative, recuperative through change

Aspects/placements of the Active/Intelligent/eccentric mind
-Mercury in gemini or virgo
-Mars in gemini or in 3rd house
-Mercury/Uranus
-Saturn/Mercury(it gives mathematical and analytical abilities. I have semi-sextile of it and i can calculate up to 3 digits numbers only with mind. At least i used to be able to but still i can do easy 3 digits, and hard 2 digits..)
-Mercury in aquariaus?
-Many 3rd house planets, 3rd house planet interacting 12th house planets..
-Many aspected 9th planets...
-Mars/Uranus
-Uranus in 1st or 12th
-Uranus/Ascendant and its aspected by mars or mercury or vice versa or its combinations
- A lot of gemini and virgo placements

Aspects/Placements of the Aggresiveness,Combative,Assertiveness,"Ability to come back", Never giving up, "do or die"
-Sun/Mars
-Mars/Pluto
-Jupiter hard aspects to Pluto
-Aspected Mars in Aries
-A lot of aries in the chart
-Sun and mars mutual reception
-Mercury/Mars
-Moon/Pluto
-Sun/PLuto
-Mars in sagittarus or mars/Neptune
-Mars/Ascendant or Mars conjunct Mc

Aspects/Placement of the Dark Side,Evil Lover, Theft, Liar, Domination,Destructive Instincts,
**=Again, if you have this aspect, it does not insult to you, ok? good.
Probably, hard aspects version of what i write about aspects below is more true.
-Pluto/Vesta
-Mars/Pluto
-Mars aspecting Pluto in 8th or 12th
-Moon/Pluto
-Mercury/Neptune
-Mercury/PLuto
-Sun/Pluto
-A lot of 8th house placements
-Mars/Mercury,
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Aspects of the "Morons"
-Neptune conjunct NN(they follow society regardless of their actions, they follow unconsciously what they do without even thinking and interpreting their actions, for example if society drinks a lot, they do too...)
-That Neptune on NN afflicted by personal planets
-Afflicted Pallas Athene
-Too much afflicted Mercury(it can create a genius also)
-Cardinal T-Square or grand T-Square(IF energy is not directed or channeled properly, person may go mad, lose its psychological condition etc..)

posted November 28, 2011 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:

-Neptune conjunct NN(they follow society regardless of their actions, they follow unconsciously what they do without even thinking and interpreting their actions, for example if society drinks a lot, they do too...)

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Nope. Not true for me. Actually I have always been walking to my own drum, which included to NOT do these things, even though society and peergroups were pressuring me to do so (including drinking / doing drugs / going to parties/ socializing a lot though superficially/ sleeping around/ etc.).
Not doing all these things made me some kind of an outsider though, as I did not "fit". I was too different, but in a weird way it was accepted that I was my very own group. It was just how I was, and I didn`t adapt well to these "social rules", especially when I thought they were detrimental or dumb.

So, even though I have Neptune conjunct NN under one degree squaring Jupiter in Pisces, it is totally the opposite of who I am.

I am also constantly analyzing myself, my actions, my motivations to the point that it becomes detrimental for "just living".

EDIT:
my Neptune/NN conjunction is exactly sextile PALLAS Athene in Aquarius and sextile Pluto in Libra, and PALLAS trines Pluto exact.
Plus I have an Aquarius-Moon.

Maybe that mental energy modifies the Neptune/NN-effects in my case.

posted November 28, 2011 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

EDIT:
my Neptune/NN conjunction is exactly sextile PALLAS Athene in Aquarius and sextile Pluto in Libra, and PALLAS trines Pluto exact.
Plus I have an Aquarius-Moon.

Maybe that mental energy modifies the Neptune/NN-effects in my case.

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posted November 28, 2011 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
For intelligence,I would add Saturn/Mercury. And for eccentric mind H3,9 even 12 Uranus.

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Added.

posted November 28, 2011 09:03 AM            

yes, I did.

posted November 28, 2011 06:01 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
The part about survival and 'gut' aspects is pretty much true for me, I have do have the keen ability to get myself out of horrible situations

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posted November 30, 2011 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:

Aspects/Placements of survival,gut instincts/ Nine lives, protective intuition
-Moon/PLuto
-Sun/Pluto
-Jupiter in 6th houses(this placement gives luck and strenght through destroying of enemies)
-Pluto in 8th house
-Mars/Uranus
-Jupiter in 12th house
-Pluto in 12th house
-PLuto in 4th house(since 4th house is ruled by moon but i am not sure of it)
-Moon in scorpio
-Sun good aspects to uranus makes someone regenarative, recuperative through change

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i was thinking bout this like what aspects would make someone capable of combating a disease like say cancer..

posted November 30, 2011 03:19 AM            

Aspects/Placements of chicks/hot girls&studs/charm/Attractive Personality

-Venus/mars (semisextile exact lol)
-Pluto in 8th
-Sun or Moon/PLuto
-Uranus/Ascendant

Aspects/Placements of survival,gut instincts/ Nine lives, protective intuition

-Sun/Pluto
-Pluto in 8th house

Aspects/placements of the Active/Intelligent/eccentric mind

-Mercury/Uranus
-Saturn/Mercury(it gives mathematical and analytical abilities.
-Uranus/Ascendant and its aspected by mars or mercury or vice versa or its combinations
virgo placements

Aspects/Placements of the Aggresiveness,Combative,Assertiveness,"Ability to come back", Never giving up, "do or die"
-Sun/Mars
-Sun/PLuto

Aspects/Placement of the Dark Side,Evil Lover, Theft, Liar, Domination,Destructive Instincts,
**=Again, if you have this aspect, it does not insult to you, ok? good.
Probably, hard aspects version of what i write about aspects below is more true.

-Mercury/Neptune
-Sun/Pluto

Aspects of the "Morons"

-Too much afflicted Mercury(it can create a genius also- I have some conjunctions and squares, but I've always been told I'm intelligent so..
-Cardinal T-Square or grand T-Square(IF energy is not directed or channeled properly, person may go mad, lose its psychological condition etc..)

posted November 30, 2011 04:34 AM            

Aspects/Placements of survival,gut instincts/ Nine lives, protective intuition
-Moon/PLuto
-Sun/Pluto
-PLuto in 4th house(since 4th house is ruled by moon but i am not sure of it)

Aspects/placements of the Active/Intelligent/eccentric mind
-Mars in gemini or in 3rd house
-Mercury/Uranus
-Mercury in aquarius?
-Uranus/Ascendant and its aspected by mars or mercury or vice versa or its combinations

Aspects/Placements of the Aggresiveness,Combative,Assertiveness,"Ability to come back", Never giving up, "do or die"
-Mars/Pluto
-Moon/Pluto
-Sun/PLuto

Aspects/Placement of the Dark Side,Evil Lover, Theft, Liar, Domination,Destructive Instincts,
-Mars/Pluto
-Moon/Pluto
-Sun/Pluto

posted November 30, 2011 05:13 AM            

Aspects/Placements of survival,gut instincts/ Nine lives, protective intuition
-Moon/PLuto (square)
-Pluto in 12th house

Aspects/placements of the Active/Intelligent/eccentric mind
-Mercury/Uranus (minor aspect, my uranus has no major aspects)
-Many 3rd house planets, 3rd house planet interacting 12th house planets..(neptune in 3rd sextile pluto in 12th)
- virgo placements (6th house merc?)

Aspects/Placements of the Aggresiveness,Combative,Assertiveness,"Ability to come back", Never giving up, "do or die"
-Sun/Mars (opp)
-A lot of aries in the chart (it's a dominant due to 1st house planets)
-Moon/Pluto (square)

Aspects/Placement of the Dark Side,Evil Lover, Theft, Liar, Domination,Destructive Instincts,
**=Again, if you have this aspect, it does not insult to you, ok? good.
Probably, hard aspects version of what i write about aspects below is more true.
-Moon/Pluto (square)
-Mercury/Neptune (trine)
-Mercury/PLuto (opp)

Aspects of the "Morons"
-Too much afflicted Mercury(it can create a genius also)

posted November 30, 2011 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Just curious: why was Libra left out of the "intelligence" placements but the other two air signs included? Is something different about Libra that makes it a less intelligent sign than Gemini and Aquarius? I also was curious as to why Sagittarius wasn't included--isn't Sag associated with higher learning? (I'm not saying that you're wrong, nor do I mean to insult you or anything; just curious to know).

Also, are you referring to *any* aspects, or just certain ones? For the "darker" traits, for example, would a powerful positive aspect and a powerful negative aspect give the same end result, or are you referring to a positive aspect for the positive traits and a negative aspect for the negative traits?

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That's really common, actually - despite being one of the Air signs, Libra is routinely left out of discussions about intelligence for whatever reasons - I guess because it's a social sign and likes beauty, apparently it can't also be linked to intellect, like somehow they're mutually exclusive? looool

posted November 30, 2011 05:26 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

And I love the way Plutonian aspects are totally pigeonholed and stereotyped into the 'evil' category looool. Actually the nastiest people I've encountered, weren't Plutonian.

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posted November 30, 2011 05:28 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
They are also included in good ones.

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posted November 30, 2011 05:30 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
I noticed that too and started to point it out like, "Okay, somebody can't make up their mind here"...

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posted November 30, 2011 05:35 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
[b]No, Pluto gives a lot of ability and skill which is for us to decide to use it for goood and bad[/B]

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To be fair though, that can be said of all the planets - every last one has a shadow side and can be used for ill. That's not unique to Pluto.

Plus - I'm just plain tired of always hearing negative associations in connection to Pluto/Scorpio. There's a hell of a stigma attached to those that isn't deserved. Sure, Pluto was listed in the positive categories as well but we all know people are gonna remember the negative category the most and use it to further brand Plutonian/Scorpionic people, in a negative way.

I constantly hear stories about this type of thing - people going to professional astrologers and being told that because they have a lot of Scorpio activity, that they were an awful person in a past life who did horrible things to people (true story); or having people look at your chart, peg it as a 'dark chart' and then assume you're a monster when they don't even know you (actually happened to me)...and countless other instances where I've seen people refer to Plutonic and Scorpionic people like we have people in a pit in our basements or something. It just gets old really fast and it's not even true.

posted November 30, 2011 05:47 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

And it's stuff like this that really does a disservice to astrology and honestly, drives a lot of people away from it and makes them doubt its accuracy and credibility.

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It is their problem, not the writer. If the reader is not good researcher and believes what he/she reads withouting having back-up arguments, he or she sure deserves deception. This life is all about "survival of the fittest" and since mars is the action and pluto is high octave it , pluto is most skillful planet for a person. With very good and strong pluto, you can be invincible but with other planets alone is never enough for sure.

And you said "This can be said of all planets".. this is very wrong for ex, unaspected jupiter by malefics(and asteroids) never gives bad traits. So the chart holder does not have any choice to be good or bad(i try to mean that, if that person is a bad person, it is never related to JUPITER OR VENUS, THERE HAS TO ALWAYS SOMETHING ELSE WHICH IS ----COMMONLY-- "PLUTO" ). So what i wrote is that can not be said for all planets.

Also i guess you are having hard time accepting your own dark side, your own PLuto. If you want to evolve, you should accept the facts.