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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, I’m new to this forum and would like some insight into some of the transits I am experiencing.

During this past year I have transiting Neptune conjunct my natal Sun (4th house), transiting Pluto (2nd house) square natal Moon (5th house) and transiting Uranus (5th house) square natal Mars (8th house). They’ve been making their passes back and forth but from what I can see everything will come to a head n January 2012, whereby all 3 transiting planets will be in exact aspect for about 12 days straight. After that, Neptune will start to move off then Uranus; however Pluto will stay around for another year or so.

I’m concerned because this has already been a difficult year for me emotionally. I’ve had a relationship breakup and he was pretty cruel about it. I’m irritated and bored with my job. I’ve discovered that the friends I have are either unsupportive or are just exhibiting weird behaviour. I’m spending money like crazy, but I’m so strapped for cash and have gotten myself into a vicious credit card cycle (no cash so using credit; trying to pay off credit so no cash). I’m suffering insomnia and I have some health issues. I’ve been thinking about my mortality and feel I need to prepare for my death. I want to run away to the other side of the world and leave everything behind. I am feeling isolated. And I’m whining and feeling sorry for myself which I absolutely hate!

I’ve heard that the harder you fight these transits, the more painful it’ll be. I don’t really know what that means, because I don’t feel I was given any choices so I don’t think I’m fighting it, but it’s still very painful. I am trying to stay positive, but there are times I just want to crawl into a hole. Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with these transits?

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1-scorp
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posted November 29, 2011 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1-scorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No insight on your transits... but sometimes I wish I never knew what transits I had going on. Some of them sound scarier than they really are.

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lalalinda
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posted November 29, 2011 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello jooles! Welcome to LL

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya, I don’t usually follow them that closely but it’s been an unusually trying year so I decided to take a look…and voila!

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the welcome lalalinda !

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amowls**
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posted November 29, 2011 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto transits are tough. Even if you "go with the flow" they'll still make you fight.

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would think I would be more comfortable with Pluto energy. I have a scorpio rising, Pluto opposes my Sun (a little wide) and Mercury (almost exact). The urge to take flight is even more unbearable sometimes, which I assume comes from Uranus. I guess I will just have to restrain myself from making any sudden movements.

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for listening 1-scorp and amowls.

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posted November 29, 2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a bit lost for words reading your post, and am sending you a big big hug. It's awful when life feels so dark as this, so heavy and unhopeful.
I can't help you with the financial side of things here of course, that's a difficult situation to get out of but I can help to direct you to somehow learn from this transit. You see I've recently been through the Pluto square Moon transit and I know how heavy it feels, and how because of the intensity you carry about inside others do not perceive you so well.
Know that it is temporary, welcome the healing that will come to the surface, as of course it will bring up childhood vulnerabilities and patterns which you may well have forgotten or ignored in your adult years. Grieve for the moments from your youth and don't try too hard to be strong.
You are a very creative person and are drawn to healing of some nature. In what ways does your work stifle this part of your personality? Is there a way you can integrate your caring side into the job you currently have? It will help the flow of energy if so...
I also recommend you pay great attention to your diet. We are what we eat and it makes a big difference to our lives if we can find foods that suit our bodies more naturally. You are sensitive to what you eat {Neptune conjunct the Ascendant huh?} and you'll be amazed how much stronger you can feel if you eat natural, wholesome, home cooked food.
It may be that living elsewhere *would* suit you better. I never advise anybody to make a decision from a place of sadness, or fear but maybe consider on a practical basis where/how you could live in a manner that would suit you and then you could implement these changes once the intensity of the transits has passed.
Finally try to connect with people who have similar experiences to yourself. The last thing you need is to feel you are the 'only one' experiencing these difficulties. There are others with many cardinal planets, also going through huge changes and with Sun conjunct Chiron you are inclined to isolate yourself when things are tough. This isn't so good for your as reaching out.
These are tough transits, no doubt about it but know that the wisdom you will glean from these days is incomparable. Life isn't easy and that applies to us all but if you can brighten another's day, or understand their pains it makes the human experience more magical. This magic is yours and Uranus and Neptune are the most magical planets
Try to find a little bit of beauty around you each day, something that you are grateful for...these times will pass and you will be empowered in the long-run x

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the spending thing right now is a pacifier. I’m trying to fill some kind of void which I know I logically can’t do with material things, but I can’t seem to control myself. If anything I’m trying to care less about work which seems to help. The things that are happening in the organization were keeping me up at nights. I’ve learn to let that go knowing that I’m just a peon that can’t control what happens at the top. I still don’t like it but I feel trapped because I’ve been there for so many years and it’s hard to give up the security. You’re right, we are what we eat and I need to stop putting junk into my body because it’ll just make me feel worse. Ah yes, I forgot all about Chiron and with it conjunct my Sun (which also conjuncts the IC) in the 4th it makes sense that I would isolate myself when it gets tough. So maybe it’s me pushing people away as opposed to feeling that people are dismissing me. Interesting. Thanks waxlobster.

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waxlobster
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posted November 29, 2011 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes there is no know cure for worry but when the logical mind has it's say the question that can be asked is "can I change that which concerns me?"

If the answer is yes then there is a solution, if the answer is no then it's best not to dwell too much.

After all there is enough in our lives that we ARE responsible for, without us wasting our energy on the things we are not..

Pluto reveals hidden truths...the truth can hurt, but we can't do anything with what we don't know, so it's worth shining the light into all corners of the cave to see if there are hidden snakes. They may scare us but they can't get us if we know they're there to avoid...

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, there is a dredging of past wounds. What has hurt me more than anything is that my ex’s choice of behaviour is similar to what happened between us many years ago. So much so that I fear history will repeat itself with all the events that took place after that breakup. Now that I think about it some more, this is the real, live, breathing fear I’m currently feeling.

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athenegoddess
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posted November 29, 2011 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are never given anything you cannot handle in your life. It was given to you so you could meet the challenges and overcome the trials so that in the end you could be rewarded. I know just by hearing that you are feeling sorry for yourself, you have not yet met your true self. Think about all the people in the world who have nothing to eat or drink. I myself had a difficult childhood, and yes there were times when I asked 'why me'?but in the end, I am grateful because the poles are always balanced and as long as I stayed true to myself during any trauma I would be rewarded later on. And, that's the beauty of life and experiencing life. You are here to learn. And as long as you never learn how to forgive yourself, grow, and understand your true purpose... you will be 'lost'.

So forgive yourself for any petty mistakes such as spending money,or not having the support of your friends. Just spend time with your self and evaluate your current circumstances and think of how you got there and if you are happy.

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I’m not comparing myself to someone that has suffered famine, abuse, homelessness, etc. Those are entirely different distresses from emotional fears and darkness. Emotional fears are not tangible; you have to search for the source before you can search for a solution. I have endured transiting Pluto conjunct my Asc and 1st house and that was even more painful. So, I have spent many years contemplating the purpose of life and I agree for the most part it is to learn and grow. It looks like I’ve been given another opportunity and although I’ve never ever done it before, talking about it is helping. It helps to clear the fog of Neptune from my head.

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Capriquarius
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posted November 29, 2011 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are never given anything you cannot handle in your life. It was given to you so you could meet the challenges and overcome the trials so that in the end you could be rewarded.

Just had to pop in and say that that was beautiful and very helpful, athenegoddess. Really good way to look at life.


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and transiting Uranus (5th house) square natal Mars (8th house).

If I were you, I would take up boxing (recreational activity) to diffuse as much of that erratic energy as possible.

That's the only transit I would worry about, due to its unpredictability.

As for the others, you will simply face a personal transmutation in which your ego boundaries become malleable so that you can be molded into a more evolved you which fits into the bigger picture. At the same time, your sense of self-worth will be torn down and re-formed at a profound level that may not be observable to you while it's going on (Pluto transit 2nd, house of personal wealth - what do you consider to be true riches? Cash or your sense of self-worth?). This transformation in what you personally value will be challenged by how you have been conditioned to react (Moon). The square aspect is an opportunity for you to learn how to integrate your new sense of self-worth with what makes you feel emotionally secure. Perhaps in the past, you looked toward your romances (5th house) for emotional support. Pluto is asking that you look deep within for a newfound sense of self-worth, even if your past response has been to look toward a lover or some form of leisure as a crutch for emotional fulfillment.

No matter how bad it gets, just keep telling yourself that "this too shall pass" and if it's painful, it's for your own good. I don't know about the specific aspects in your chart, but these outer planet transits are huge opportunities for some of those placements and aspects to be powerfully activated to fulfill their true potential and push you toward the path toward individuation...who you were born to be as designed by the higher power, not what the world tried to tell you to be.

Welcome welcome welcome!!


P.S. My way of coping with transits is to look up a celebrity who is going through the same one. If some Hollywood starlet is getting a beatdown too then I don't feel so alone.

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posted November 29, 2011 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s interesting about the self worth. The message I feel that my ex is sending me is that his needs are more important than mine, so it doesn’t matter what I want, what my fears are, what I hope for, he is taking away my voice by refusing to communicate with me. We still talk, however we are not communicating. In all honesty, I can’t even find any words to say to him because I don’t know what my feelings are for him anymore. I still love him but I don’t know how I feel about him as a person.

“The square aspect is an opportunity for you to learn how to integrate your new sense of self-worth with what makes you feel emotionally secure.”

This makes total sense to me. My ex basically slapped me in the face and woke me up because it forced me to look at what I had to give up to in order to stay with him. He wasn’t offering emotional stability, if anything it was more uncertainty. He has a Uranus transit squaring his natal Sun and I can kind of see how this is playing out with him. I haven’t looked at his transits but I know this because his Sun conjuncts my Mars.

Thanks athenegoddess and thank you so much Capriquarius for the advice and warm welcome.

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posted November 29, 2011 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune on the Sun by transit is said to dissolve the ego. The ego needs to be structured, first, for this to occur without feeling as if you've gone haywire. I think you did not have many boundaries in place, and now you will find it difficult to change, having been broken down.
I have Moon sq Pluto natally and am always happy to see faulty relationships bite the dust. I am strong enough to stand alone, so that transit challenged you in that regard, to find your own sustenance.
So you have a lot of work to do.
Making preparations for death is always a good thing, esp if you have a family that you support.

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jooles
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posted November 29, 2011 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm….it’s true that I don’t have a lot of boundaries. I have a Venus trine Uranus natally, so an element of freedom is important for me to maintain my individuality within a relationship. I think the problem is I expect people to do the right thing and when I can’t tolerate their behaviour then I leave. I don’t feel the need to try and change their behaviour or the desire to explain what they’ve done wrong in my eyes, I just leave. I make every effort to treat people with respect and I shouldn’t have to explain to someone that they should also. This is my idealistic Aquarian belief in humanity. Obviously I’ve experienced quite a few disappointments with people, so there is a lesson here to be learned. Thanks Lonake.

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posted November 30, 2011 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDIT: Nvm, took a comment out of context.

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jooles
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posted November 30, 2011 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no no no. He never hit me. He would never do that! I just woke up with a thought that people might think that he had treated me with disrespect throughout the relationship. That's not the case! The "slap in the face" was a figure of speech because what he did to cause the break up was like being slapped in the face. His behaviour woke me up and revealed just how childish and selfish he was being and then his refusal to talk and compromise was even more ridiculous. This was 4 months ago and to this day he still refuses to talk about it. We have reached an impasse because for once I refuse to back down.

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Capriquarius
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posted November 30, 2011 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whew, glad to hear that! I'm just going to blame retrograde Mercury again for that misunderstanding lol.

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posted November 30, 2011 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus transits are so selfish. I had a trine from it to my Venus awhile back and even though it was a fun transit, I was almost incapable of considering anyone but myself.

It sounds like the two of you might have merged and lost yourselves in the relationship so now it's time to restructure your individual selves again? He probably knows this deep down inside too and that's why he's so closed off. Ah well. Just time for a new You.

I remember my Neptune conjunct Sun transit when I was a kid. Those were some magical times. It really lets you enjoy the beauty of each moment, no matter what you're doing. After it faded off, puberty hit and that wasn't too great. I wish I can have that transit again. =)

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jooles
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posted November 30, 2011 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your concern Capriquarius, however in this respect it's not warranted. I'm glad you got out of that situation. My ex has a Mars Uranus conjunction which manifests in ADHD-like behaviour. He doesn't tolerate being told what to do, he can be rebellious, impatient but he is non-violent. He's also stubborn as all hell...he has a Taurus moon, Taurus being intercepted so he has a hard time expressing his feelings. I've seen the panic in his eyes when he's had to. Ohhh...this makes me very sad...

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posted November 30, 2011 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We were both writing at the same time. I wish I could appreciate Neptune more, but maybe it’s actually helping me because although I’m quite sad, I am much calmer than I would normally be. I agree Uranus is selfish and we both have it transiting, so we are both being selfish. I’m glad it’s happening for me actually because I very seldom consider myself first. And puberty sucked

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posted November 30, 2011 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too I loved the Neptune to Sun transit, I'm so lucky that I've had more than a decade of Neptune conjunctions, I will miss it greatly when it finally moves away from my Mercury (at 1 Pisces).

Honestly the creativity it brings is immense, and sure it can make you feel a little vulnerable at times but if you're lucky enough to build up a close network of friends that's bearable.

Embrace it Jooles, of course your only issue is with Chiron conjunct the Sun there is already a tendency to give a lot of yourself to others. So you can end up leaving nothing for you...but if you focus this constructively you'll find your empathy and insights are just immense at this time

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