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lindisfarne
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posted November 30, 2011 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or something someone said to make you changer your perspective on life, or opened your eyes more about the reality of life?

At a place I used to work at, I was on the phone with a customer and asked him to rate something and if he would recommend it to a friend or family, and i never forgot what he said it made me really sad.. he said
"oh.. I don't have friends, they are all dead, i don't have family too.. they're not alive." He was an old guy, made my heart hurt just a little.. Could you guys imagine not having anyone in your life anymore? No family no friends, nothing? Not to mention he said his wife passed away, double whammy.

Another story was when I was on the phone with a customer involving banking and I asked him about his annual salary estimation and he said to me "I am unemployed, i lost my job last month, and I am getting evicted out of my home next week. I have absolutely no where to go. So yup.. life is just crazy isn't it?" he sounded so depressed, i felt awful wanted to help him, the entire conversation was so dark, and towards the end he said "Glad I could help.. I wish you the best in life.. i really do. You are young and have so much ahead of you.. i hope you prosper and make it somewhere in life.. life is hard. very hard, but you will make it." hearing stuff like that makes me very sad. There was nothing I could do for him he sounded very down and depressed.. like he truly gave up on life, i also will never forget that. I actually didn't want to hang up. I wanted to stay with him on the phone, No idea why..

What is the most sad/depressing thing someone has told you? How did you react?
What sign is in your Moon and what house is your moon in, also what sign rules your 11th house?

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RedScorp
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posted November 30, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm...most depressing thing...

"You are a narcissist." - Cancer friend

It just...really bugs me when they say that. I know I'm vain, but like...I'm not a narcissist. D:

Maybe this belongs in your other thread about what thoughts affect your daily life, 'cause I try to be a little mindful of how I act and stuff and that the thought sometimes comes to mind after I do stuff, like enjoy the attention of my class when I'm presenting a seminar.

Capricorn moon in Fort Frolic (Fifth), my Eleventh house ruled by the Moon.

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posted November 30, 2011 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not a matter of what I was told but what I was witnessing over the course of the year in one of my friendships. I loved this guy dearly but it was like we were on two different levels. I felt like I was an angel (not trying to sound egotistic...) who needed to help him and not let go 'cause he was in a really dark place. He'd almost attempted suicide before in the past before I knew him, and when I WAS friends with him he drank at least 12 beers every night before falling asleep. He had low self-esteem even though he was brilliant. He was self-conscious 'cause he was gay and probably depressed 'cause his parents didn't cherish that part about him. I don't know. He drove people away with his behavior which I assume only exacerbated everything. It was just really sad listening to him 'cause I saw all these other great qualities and yet acknowledging them didn't help balance out anything. It was just really sad and depressing watching someone treat themselves so poorly.

Moon is in Taurus the 11th, ruled by Aries I believe.

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posted November 30, 2011 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sighhh...
A woman told me her husband was backing out of the driveway (in a suv) and accidently ran over their son.
The son suffered major injuries and did not survive the accident...

Leo Moon in H6
Cap rules H11

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posted November 30, 2011 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It's not a matter of what I was told but what I was witnessing over the course of the year in one of my friendships. I loved this guy dearly but it was like we were on two different levels. I felt like I was an angel (not trying to sound egotistic...) who needed to help him and not let go 'cause he was in a really dark place. He'd almost attempted suicide before in the past before I knew him, and when I WAS friends with him he drank at least 12 beers every night before falling asleep. He had low self-esteem even though he was brilliant. He was self-conscious 'cause he was gay and probably depressed 'cause his parents didn't cherish that part about him. I don't know. He drove people away with his behavior which I assume only exacerbated everything. It was just really sad listening to him 'cause I saw all these other great qualities and yet acknowledging them didn't help balance out anything. It was just really sad and depressing watching someone treat themselves so poorly.

Moon is in Taurus the 11th, ruled by Aries I believe.



Are you still friends with him? Its interesting when others sense and can vividly see the greatest qualities in others, and they cannot see that in themselves. Things like that upset me. I honestly don't understand the issue about sexual orientation and who or what kinds of people someone else is attracted to sexually. I don't see the correlation in person 1 being attracted to the same sex, and how group b can be so enraged by it. Its not like person 1 is directly affecting you, who they want to be with doesn't involve you so why expend all that hate and intolerance onto person 1? Sh*t like that upsets me deep inside. I just want people to be happy with what they like and who they are, no judgements about who you love at the end of the day, especially if you're not the one being affected by it directly. And especially when your own family can't accept who you are. Biggest ego robbery on the face of the earth really.. To not have that support is crushing..
I don't get homophobia, or racism either, I never will.. just accept who people love and like to love.. you know? Sorry for rambling.. your friend and this story is very sad hope he gets the support he needs...

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posted November 30, 2011 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I give up."

No matter what the reason it is, be it looking for your favorite brand of pretzels at the grocery or the love of your life... I always feel so sad whenever someone says, "I give up". Never give up! Never surrender!

EDIT: Sun in 10th. Moon in 1st.

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posted November 30, 2011 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately (sort of) I'm not. Even though yes, he had great qualities, he needed professional help beyond a few encouraging words, and he got it. Last time I spoke with him a year ago he was seeing a therapist but I'm not sure if he still is. By "his behavior" I mean his constant narcissism, and controlling ways. He treated himself poorly so I guess I should've known he'd treat others poorly too but he was oh-so charming... gets me all the time. It hurt me a lot 'cause all I needed was for him to trust me, but I sensed he didn't and couldn't figure out why.

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posted November 30, 2011 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
"I give up."

No matter what the reason it is, be it looking for your favorite brand of pretzels at the grocery or the love of your life... I always feel so sad whenever someone says, "I give up". Never give up! Never surrender!

EDIT: Sun in 10th. Moon in 1st.



what about if a battered wife says to her abusive husband that premeditates her murder subconsciously, what if she says 'i give up on this and you and staying to think i can change you'.

what about situations like that? should they not surrender?

didnt mean to go extreme here. i know its what you think and its your opinion which i respect but im curious if this rule can bend in situations

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posted November 30, 2011 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a lighter (again, sort of) note... I once worked with a girl who's parents split 'cause her mom was a lesbian (and is now an alcoholic. With legal custody of the girl's baby), she started drinking at an early age, got raped at 12, became promiscuous, had temper problems, had cervical cancer, had a baby at 18 (dad is no where to be found), I think she got fired from her managing position at Sonic (probably because she stole...), and lived out of her car last I heard.

I mean talk about a ****** life... I'd feel more sorry for her if she learned from her experiences but after I see you bitching your dad out for not giving you enough "gas" money and then you use that "gas" money to get a cheap tattoo of an owl.... NO SYMPATHY.

She was a Leo with a Libra moon.

Leos...

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posted November 30, 2011 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Y'know, I almost feel a little narcissistic right now because all you guys have these stories involving other people and all I talked about was myself. :C

Not that I'm seriously upset right now, just noticing.

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posted November 30, 2011 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Y'know, I almost feel a little narcissistic right now because all you guys have these stories involving other people and all I talked about was myself. :C

Not that I'm seriously upset right now, just noticing.


I think you might be confusing self-absorption with narcissism. Narcissism is very very extreme. You are just self-absorbed. No issue with that though.. I would love to get into Narcissism on a psychological aspect but tonight's not the night

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ElizabethO
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posted November 30, 2011 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Oh, you know what I mean, lol. In normal, non-emergency, non-violent situations, whenever someone says "I give up." I almost want to hit them and say, "Commee on. What's wrong with you! I don't care if we have to go to three other grocery stores. We're going to find you some peanut butter stuffed pretzels, okay?"

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posted November 30, 2011 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
On a lighter (again, sort of) note... I once worked with a girl who's parents split 'cause her mom was a lesbian (and is now an alcoholic. With legal custody of the girl's baby), she started drinking at an early age, got raped at 12, became promiscuous, had temper problems, had cervical cancer, had a baby at 18 (dad is no where to be found), I think she got fired from her managing position at Sonic (probably because she stole...), and lived out of her car last I heard.

I mean talk about a ****** life... I'd feel more sorry for her if she learned from her experiences but after I see you bitching your dad out for not giving you enough "gas" money and then you use that "gas" money to get a cheap tattoo of an owl.... NO SYMPATHY.

She was a Leo with a Libra moon.

Leos...



She had a rough life but that doesn't excuse her actions.
Thats something that also kinda bothers me a bit... people that dont take responsibility for their actions and the direction of where their lives have proceeded.

At some point in life you HAVE to get your sh&t together and can't always blame upbringing childhood trauma on why you live the life you lead (in this case, a very shtty one) I dont have sympathy for this people. I never had it easy, but the difference between people like me and people like the person you described is that at a young age I decided to accept the help I needed, be realistic and accept what happened, and try to move on and build a better life for the future. This reminds of something pisces influenced people do.. Ive got lots of Pisces friends and ex friends and they do not live admirable lives, one is homeless but does drugs and like no tomorrow, the other is god knows where she's always "missing" but doesnt ever want to take responsibility for anything in her life. its always an excuse, everyone else is always the trigger, everyone else but themselves is the reason for their bad lifestyle. Ive got lots of respect for people that didnt live good lives in childhood/youth but are now turning things around and living better for themselves/taking responsibility.

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posted November 30, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I think you might be confusing self-absorption with narcissism. Narcissism is very very extreme. You are just self-absorbed. No issue with that though.. I would love to get into Narcissism on a psychological aspect but tonight's not the night


Omfglmfao! You make it sound like being self-absorbed/vain isn't so much of a bad thing. I dunno, I always heard it used negatively.

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posted November 30, 2011 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Omfglmfao! You make it sound like being self-absorbed/vain isn't so much of a bad thing. I dunno, I always heard it used negatively.

Its not. I find people that refuse to accept vanity on some account, and especially the whole "wwwwhaaat? me? selfish! Never! I am not a selfish person!!!" they are prob the most vain/selfish.. just suppressed. because its human nature, selfishness is our nature. I always admit I am selfish, dont get why that upsets people but hey im honest right? don't get upset about it. so what if you're vain, as long as you dont hurt others what's the problem? why? because they don't have the propensity to actually take interest in wanting to look presentable and aesthetically appealing all the time? why is it fair, that they get to place that on you?

self-absorption can get on people's nerves but if it bothers someone, they can excuse my language f*ck right off, nobody is forcing them to interact with you. im self-interested most of the time but i do make time for others and have worked a lot, on taking people into consideration etc which has helped me i guess.

since when was liking to look great physically a bad thing? im someone that will not leave the house looking frumpy according to my personal terms. but that doesn't mean that i expect others to be like me, of course not. some ppl will just have a problem with something they dont want to accept in themselves, its psychological projection. your cancer "friend" who called your a narcissist is probably very upset with themselves because they wish they could take the reigns a bit for themselves and go out into the world being more self-involved/interested. that could be a reason, or maybe you are extremely self-absorbed only care about you and yourself only, and others have confronted you on this issue and you've made no attempts to change. that could be possibility or it could not.

but dont ever feel bad for enjoying your own personal need regarding aesthetics. "wow you like to wear designer you're high maintenance no one will ever date you two" a guy told this to me and my best friend, i thought "what is high maintenance about that? its not like i expect you or other people to go out and buy me things, i work hard and get these things on my own and i dont expect others to adopt the same lifestyle. nothing high maintenance here.. you're just insecure and prob want to date me but don't have the balls to have a normal convo so you just want to put me down, nice try" looool, do you! thats all that matters, as long as you're not responsible for making someone else's life miserable....

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posted November 30, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whenever they talk about themselves in past tense like they wish they were still the person they were in the past.

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posted November 30, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
On a lighter (again, sort of) note... I once worked with a girl who's parents split 'cause her mom was a lesbian (and is now an alcoholic. With legal custody of the girl's baby), she started drinking at an early age, got raped at 12, became promiscuous, had temper problems, had cervical cancer, had a baby at 18 (dad is no where to be found), I think she got fired from her managing position at Sonic (probably because she stole...), and lived out of her car last I heard.

I mean talk about a ****** life... I'd feel more sorry for her if she learned from her experiences but after I see you bitching your dad out for not giving you enough "gas" money and then you use that "gas" money to get a cheap tattoo of an owl.... NO SYMPATHY.

She was a Leo with a Libra moon.

Leos...



Not so fast. I'm a Leo with a Libra Moon and I'm nothing like that, kthnx.

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