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Topic: Aspects and Trust
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hannaramaa
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posted November 30, 2011 12:35 AM
  
What aspects would give someone a suspicious and untrusting nature? What aspects (if any) would cause someone to be weary of women/men? Would Venus square Saturn make it hard for an individual to trust their partner? IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted November 30, 2011 12:59 AM
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What aspects (if any) would cause someone to be weary of women/men?
Wary of women: Moon or Venus conjunct/square/opp/quincunx Saturn or PlutoWary of men: Sun or Mars conjunct/square/opp/quincunx Saturn or Pluto Flowing aspects to Saturn would indicate realistic view quote:
Would Venus square Saturn make it hard for an individual to trust their partner?
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RedScorp
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posted November 30, 2011 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Would Venus square Saturn make it hard for an individual to trust their partner?
I'm very trusting and relaxed with my interests when it moves beyond the physical and I have a Venus trine Saturn (both retrograde, notably enough). Like, if they tell me about stuff and are honest, I'm really pretty cool with most anything. IP: Logged |
lindisfarne
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posted November 30, 2011 01:03 AM
Sun trine ChironCan someone expand on this because I see this.. with someone I know... i just assumed cap placements. I do think saturn squaring sun asc or moon would do this too. maybe? What about Sun opp Chiron? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 30, 2011 01:07 AM
Aspects to Jupiter? I missed the boat on Jupiter 'cause I've only ever associated humor, and weight gain with it! I have Sun and Venus square Saturn (ah... is that hinting that this lifetime it's part of my karma to repair my relationships with men? That would kind of make sense with my Mars in the 12th. Someone told me that means I was a warrior in a past life. Perhaps I was a rotten politician?!) BUT... I have Moon TRINE Saturn. So how does the Moon trine Saturn affect the Sun and Venus squares?
As far as Chiron (in Cancer, in the 1st house) goes, it's conjunct my Gemini ASC (I don't know what that means but I'm assuming it's prominent if it's conjunct my ASC) and in opposition with Jupiter in Gemini (in the 12th)
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Lonake
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posted November 30, 2011 01:14 AM
"a suspicious and untrusting nature"
---Could be Mercury/Pluto."weary of women/men"
---Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars to Saturn. "Venus square Saturn make it hard for an individual to trust their partner"
---I have this, I don't have a problem w.trusting. Hard Sun/Neptune or Moon/Neptune, I've seen. Neptune rules deceit, makes matters unclear, you're second-guessing your partner (Sun/Moon both significators for the partner). I knew one couple, wow, they were at it every other day hurling suspicions back and forth, both had Sun sq Neptune, both w.Pluto in the 1st. Pluto in 1st or 7th, I've seen both placements be suspicious in general + therefore have problems trusting the partner. Mercury, Jupiter hard aspect Neptune, possibly. "not as bad as Venus square Pluto because it's not intense, just really strict."
---I have this too, not so for me. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted November 30, 2011 01:18 AM
Wary nature = virgo placements lolI'm like this. IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted November 30, 2011 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Sun trine ChironCan someone expand on this because I see this.. with someone I know... i just assumed cap placements. I do think saturn squaring sun asc or moon would do this too. maybe?
Either you're from different cultures or the Chiron person trusts the Sun person a lot. quote:
What about Sun opp Chiron?[/B]
Ouch! I'd stay away, especially if you met while Saturn is making a hard transit to one of you's Venus, Mars, or Chiron. Look up Magi Astrology if you're curious. Some people here don't subscribe to it but it's worked for me and my family so far. quote:
Aspects to Jupiter? I missed the boat on Jupiter 'cause I've only ever associated humor, and weight gain with it!
Well, he likes to encompass a lot of things..he's all about expansion. Trust is a Jupiterian quality. quote:
I have Sun and Venus square Saturn (ah... is that hinting that this lifetime it's part of my karma to repair my relationships with men? That would kind of make sense with my Mars in the 12th. Someone told me that means I was a warrior in a past life. Perhaps I was a rotten politician?!) BUT... I have Moon TRINE Saturn. So how does the Moon trine Saturn affect the Sun and Venus squares?
That's a good take on the whole configuration.I think the Moon (especially since it's exalted in Taurus) trine Saturn gives you the emotional steadyness and strength to weather whatever Saturn squaring Sun-Venus dishes out... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 30, 2011 01:33 AM
Hmmm. Food for thought.I feel like I'm finally getting somewhere with this and with my karma, and I don't want to stop! I have Sun, Mercury, and Venus square Saturn AND all three squaring Neptune BUT my Moon is trine Saturn and Neptune. Considering my MC is in Pisces, am I supposed to be less headstrong and more trusting (trust is a big thing for me right now, I realized I'm very Capricornish in my fear and it's caging me in from experiencing life.)? How do I overcome that though when I'm proved right a lot of the time? Well, whenever I'm looking at my friends' relationships I'm right... with my own, forget it. I don't even want to deal with my own 'cause I mess up and leave instead of getting left. IP: Logged |
lindisfarne
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posted November 30, 2011 01:36 AM
oh, i was asking about it natally, sun opp chiron
i have that aqua sun chiron leo im curious what that is about heheIP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted November 30, 2011 02:26 AM
Pluto retrograde
Some interpretations indicate this.Then there are other factors in the chart too to consider.
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted November 30, 2011 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What aspects would give someone a suspicious and untrusting nature? What aspects (if any) would cause someone to be weary of women/men? Would Venus square Saturn make it hard for an individual to trust their partner?
Pluto would make people less likely to immediately trust others.
I have a busy Pluto and to some extent I look at everybody sideways. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 30, 2011 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Pluto would make people less likely to immediately trust others.I have a busy Pluto and to some extent I look at everybody sideways.
Oh, I don't have any Pluto aspects. It just sits in my 5th house all by it's lonesome. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted November 30, 2011 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
There are probably others involving Sun-Neptune or something. Although I suppose that would be with a more delusional edge.
Nah, it depends on the type of aspect. If it's a square, then yeah. it means possible issues with self-delusion...even stuff like thinking you're a martyr or some kind of special deity-figure. Check out the Astrologer's Handbook on this one. But trust issues - nah. In fact if Neptune in general, had anything to do with trust at all it would probably manifest more as being gullible and too QUICK to trust people. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted November 30, 2011 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Oh, I don't have any Pluto aspects. It just sits in my 5th house all by it's lonesome.
Ever heard of singletons? lmaooooo IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted November 30, 2011 05:16 AM
Whoa, I actually deleted most of that first post. Retrograde Mercury is conjunct my natal Mercury right now. Sorry whoever read that first post!IP: Logged |
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