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Topic: The Power of Uranus (synastry)
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 04:34 AM
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BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 04:51 AM
Uranus is more than just instability. It could just manifest as the relationship being unconventional in some way, or not being boring.Especially considering there's Saturn TRINES in the chart, which should mitigate the whole instability thing alot. And ultimately at the end of the day - astrology is just astrology. Even if the synastry and the composite were crap, it'd be stupid to just throw the relationship over because of that. If you feel something, you feel something and should just go ahead and however long it lasts, it lasts. IP: Logged |
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posted November 30, 2011 05:05 AM
I had a brief relationship in which his Saturn was conjunct my Ascendant and sextile my Venus. His Saturn was also square our composite Sun. His Moon, my Venus-Moon square, and generational Uranus formed a T-square. The total effect was that I became emotionally dissatisfied and repeatedly broke off the relationship but he kept convincing me to give it another chance (his Saturn talk). 4 Saturn trines would be a very grounding influence though. Uranus only acts up when a change is necessary. If you feel restless, maybe there's a good reason why. (I had reasons for breaking off my relationship.) With your Pluto contacting all of those planets of his, you'd have the power because he'd feel magnetized to you and you could touch him at a deep level so that he can satisfy you emotionally and you wouldn't have reason to take off on him.
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 05:06 AM
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BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 05:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: Ahhh well it is certainly not boring, and definitely feels novel and new. There is an electricity from just being together that neither of us have experienced before as well, it's as if everything is amplified.I know astrology isn't the be-all and end-all, but I'm just trying to understand it better. There's no way in the universe I'd be throwing this away because of a chart!
Then honestly you shouldn't let the astrology on this, phase or concern you either. Just put it all aside and see how it goes. Especially when...I'm just gonna be honest, here - usually astrology seems to drop the ball when it comes to relationship-oriented stuff, anyway. How many times have we seen great composites or synastry and it didn't last, or crappy ones and they're still together? Nuff said. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 05:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: I had a brief relationship in which his Saturn was conjunct my Ascendant and sextile my Venus. His Saturn was also square our composite Sun. His Moon, my Venus-Moon square, and generational Uranus formed a T-square. The total effect was that I became emotionally dissatisfied and repeatedly broke off the relationship but he kept convincing me to give it another chance (his Saturn talk). 4 Saturn trines would be a very grounding influence though. Uranus only acts up when a change is necessary. If you feel restless, maybe there's a good reason why. (I had reasons for breaking off my relationship.) With your Pluto contacting all of those planets of his, you'd have the power because he'd feel magnetized to you and you could touch him at a deep level so that he can satisfy you emotionally and you wouldn't have reason to take off on him.
That's interesting about the Saturn you've experienced. My Saturn squares his Asc, so maybe there will be a push-pull feeling? I wouldn't say I am pulling away atm, but I know myself aside from astrology, and I can get very overwhelmed by emotion, and if I don;t find a way to channel it I freak out and disappear. In the past, I have rarely went back when this happens. And in this case, I feel so much more than I ever have in such a short space of time. I know deep down, this relationship is very important, and that's holding me in place. What were your reasons for breaking off your relationship, if you don;t mind me asking? This coming from an Aquarius sun/Virgo moon/Capricorn Venus no less! IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 05:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: Then honestly you shouldn't let the astrology on this, phase or concern you either. Just put it all aside and see how it goes. Especially when...I'm just gonna be honest, here - usually astrology seems to drop the ball when it comes to relationship-oriented stuff, anyway. How many times have we seen great composites or synastry and it didn't last, or crappy ones and they're still together? Nuff said.
I know what you are saying Belligerentpygmy, and I very much appreciate it, and concur, on one level. But the fact is, I have already starting digging, and opened the astro worm-can. While I will not let it determine how I conduct this relationship, I would like to see if anything in the chart pans out in reality. We can call it 'in the name of science' IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 05:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: I know what you are saying Belligerentpygmy, and I very much appreciate it, and concur, on one level.But the fact is, I have already starting digging, and opened the astro worm-can. While I will not let it determine how I conduct this relationship, I would like to see if anything in the chart pans out in reality. We can call it 'in the name of science'
Yeah but to be fair, the astrology on this has you shaken up enough that you're posting about it so it's clearly affecting how you think and approach the relationship. Instead of letting the astrology do your head in and make you expect a disaster, just dismiss it and go out and live.
Besides, your thoughts have power anyway. If you buy into that and start dreading it, worrying about it and expecting it, you'll end up making that a reality. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 05:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: Yeah but to be fair, the astrology on this has you shaken up enough that you're posting about it so it's clearly affecting how you think and approach the relationship. Instead of letting the astrology do your head in and make you expect a disaster, just dismiss it and go out and live.Besides, your thoughts have power anyway. If you buy into that and start dreading it, worrying about it and expecting it, you'll end up making that a reality.
I know what you are saying, but if that were true, my entire life would be a mess and I would be in permanent therapy! I have always been a digger, and it's in my nature to gather information on anything I am interested in from as many sources as possible. But in the end, it is my gut that guides me IP: Logged |
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posted November 30, 2011 05:52 AM
quote: That's interesting about the Saturn you've experienced. My Saturn squares his Asc, so maybe there will be a push-pull feeling?
I think he would feel like he can never meet your approval, even if you actually don't care.It was totally the Moon-Venus-Uranus t-square that caused the push-pull dynamic, not his Saturn on my Ascendant. quote: I wouldn't say I am pulling away atm, but I know myself aside from astrology, and I can get very overwhelmed by emotion, and if I don;t find a way to channel it I freak out and disappear. In the past, I have rarely went back when this happens. And in this case, I feel so much more than I ever have in such a short space of time. I know deep down, this relationship is very important, and that's holding me in place.
This kind of sounds like fear of intimacy. How is your 8th House? quote: What were your reasons for breaking off your relationship, if you don;t mind me asking?
1. The relationship wasn't progressing because he has Saturn in the 8th (fear of intimacy) and NN in the 7th (commitmentphobe) 2. He fed me BS constantly. His Neptune is conjunct my Mercury. quote: Ahh I was a bit worried about the Pluto aspects, in case it manifested as me ending up obssessed with him, and not loving him in the true sense of the word. I have, however, felt very drawn to him since the first time we met, and there were some reasons for me to hesitate, but I realised eventually, that I actually couldn't have resisted forever even if I wanted to - my head completely went out the window, and left me all heart. This coming from an Aquarius sun/Virgo moon/Venus Capricorn no less!
You'll probably be obsessed with each other because your personal planets engage each others' Pluto, but Pluto also means power along with the obsession. Have fun. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 06:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: [QUOTE]That's interesting about the Saturn you've experienced. My Saturn squares his Asc, so maybe there will be a push-pull feeling?
I think he would feel like he can never meet your approval, even if you actually don't care.It was totally the Moon-Venus-Uranus t-square that caused the push-pull dynamic, not his Saturn on my Ascendant. quote: I wouldn't say I am pulling away atm, but I know myself aside from astrology, and I can get very overwhelmed by emotion, and if I don;t find a way to channel it I freak out and disappear. In the past, I have rarely went back when this happens. And in this case, I feel so much more than I ever have in such a short space of time. I know deep down, this relationship is very important, and that's holding me in place.
This kind of sounds like fear of intimacy. How is your 8th House? quote: What were your reasons for breaking off your relationship, if you don;t mind me asking?
1. The relationship wasn't progressing because he has Saturn in the 8th (fear of intimacy) and NN in the 7th (commitmentphobe) 2. He fed me BS constantly. His Neptune is conjunct my Mercury. quote: Ahh I was a bit worried about the Pluto aspects, in case it manifested as me ending up obssessed with him, and not loving him in the true sense of the word. I have, however, felt very drawn to him since the first time we met, and there were some reasons for me to hesitate, but I realised eventually, that I actually couldn't have resisted forever even if I wanted to - my head completely went out the window, and left me all heart. This coming from an Aquarius sun/Virgo moon/Venus Capricorn no less!
You'll probably be obsessed with each other because your personal planets engage each others' Pluto, but Pluto also means power along with the obsession. Have fun. [/QUOTE] Oh dear! On another thread I felt Neptune/Mercury might be a lovely aspect of sharing dreams and ideals :/ My 8th house is empty. However, bf has sun, mercury, and moon in the 8th, and my sun falls in his 8th house. My Saturn is in Libra in the 1st. Eek! Just noticed, his saturn falls in my 8th house - could that point to me fearing his commitment to me? Ahhh I like that about the PLuto, I do like a bit of obssession, if it is requited - satisfies my songwriting haha IP: Logged |
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posted November 30, 2011 06:45 AM
quote: Oh dear! On another thread I felt Neptune/Mercury might be a lovely aspect of sharing dreams and ideals :/
Oh, we did that too. But he threw in a lot of BS along with it. quote: My 8th house is empty. However, bf has sun, mercury, and moon in the 8th, and my sun falls in his 8th house.
That sounds really intimate. I was in a very long-term relationship where my Venus was in his 8th House, and we loved sharing everything. quote: My Saturn is in Libra in the 1st. Eek! Just noticed, his saturn falls in my 8th house - could that point to me fearing his commitment to me?
Yes but if his Saturn has aspects to it from some loving planets then you would feel more comfortable. quote: Ahhh I like that about the PLuto, I do like a bit of obssession, if it is requited - satisfies my songwriting haha
Mmm yes, I have Venus in Scorpio and know what you mean.IP: Logged |
waxlobster Knowflake Posts: 759 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 07:12 AM
Well Voix,I have an idea of your chart as somebody very close to me has similar positions {he's born about 5 days before you} What you haven't shared is the Uranus aspects in question??? I can't really interpret without this.... sure I'm guessing your guy has Uranus in Libra conjunct your stellium and is probably 1973-1974 but it's a bit too vague for me really to gauge. Personally I like the Uranus conjunctions, they are electrifying and it sounds like you have enough Saturn connections to mitigate. My favourite synastry involves ALL of the outer planets prominently and it sounds like you two may have this... does his Saturn square your Moon though? In fact you see the person born a few days before you, is a huge connection in my life and I have ASC~Uranus on his Libra stellium {Mars~MC~Saturn~Pluto} it's all square mine and his Venus in Capricorn, it's not easy, no but we have so much going on in our charts we're bonded together for life. Like it not. It'll never be boring... ALL outer planets are involved and ALL connect to personal planets/angles both ways. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 07:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: [QUOTE]Oh dear! On another thread I felt Neptune/Mercury might be a lovely aspect of sharing dreams and ideals :/
Oh, we did that too. But he threw in a lot of BS along with it. quote: My 8th house is empty. However, bf has sun, mercury, and moon in the 8th, and my sun falls in his 8th house.
That sounds really intimate. I was in a very long-term relationship where my Venus was in his 8th House, and we loved sharing everything. quote: My Saturn is in Libra in the 1st. Eek! Just noticed, his saturn falls in my 8th house - could that point to me fearing his commitment to me?
Yes but if his Saturn has aspects to it from some loving planets then you would feel more comfortable. quote: Ahhh I like that about the PLuto, I do like a bit of obssession, if it is requited - satisfies my songwriting haha
Mmm yes, I have Venus in Scorpio and know what you mean.[/QUOTE] I would love to experience Venus in Scorpio! I am attracted to all that is Plutonian, especially in relationships.
Although I have a lot of Pluto in my chart already, so it may be overload for me to have anything in Scorpio too. Yes, it does feel incredibly intimate.
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 07:38 AM
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waxlobster Knowflake Posts: 759 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 09:38 AM
Hi Voix,The outer planet positions are unique to each year or couple of years and you mention you are Aquarius, so I know that you are born a few days after my friend by the Moon position. This Mars-Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Libra is a unique stellium you know Ah I see, Saturn had a range of about 15 degrees in 73-74 applicable to the Uranus position but you and he have excellent Saturn positions, that's great news. You need to for endurance in most any relationship and certainly for Saturn to personal planet connections when Uranus is strong in synastry. If you have the stability of Saturn, Uranus can provide a fizz, and unpredictability to the relationship which will keep the excitement. Needless to say as an Aquarian you would likely be bored without it too, it keeps things interesting and us Aquarius need that. Does he have Uranus square Venus natally too? This configuration also requires a lot of variety.. {I would know, I have it exact!!} My connection and I, gosh well I suppose we're friends. More than that and less than that. An incredible and yet convoluted story, verging on the unbelievable, who knows how it will turn out. Interesting we all have Venus in Capricorn there's much in common in our experiences it seems. ;0
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 10:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by waxlobster: Hi Voix,The outer planet positions are unique to each year or couple of years and you mention you are Aquarius, so I know that you are born a few days after my friend by the Moon position. This Mars-Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Libra is a unique stellium you know Ah I see, Saturn had a range of about 15 degrees in 73-74 applicable to the Uranus position but you and he have excellent Saturn positions, that's great news. You need to for endurance in most any relationship and certainly for Saturn to personal planet connections when Uranus is strong in synastry. If you have the stability of Saturn, Uranus can provide a fizz, and unpredictability to the relationship which will keep the excitement. Needless to say as an Aquarian you would likely be bored without it too, it keeps things interesting and us Aquarius need that. Does he have Uranus square Venus natally too? This configuration also requires a lot of variety.. {I would know, I have it exact!!} My connection and I, gosh well I suppose we're friends. More than that and less than that. An incredible and yet convoluted story, verging on the unbelievable, who knows how it will turn out. Interesting we all have Venus in Capricorn there's much in common in our experiences it seems. ;0
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waxlobster Knowflake Posts: 759 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 01:21 PM
Haha no, I am the older one... and you are not a guy. Don't worry It sounds like there is a lot of potential for growth and happiness with your man IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 30, 2011 01:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by waxlobster: Haha no, I am the older one... and you are not a guy. Don't worry It sounds like there is a lot of potential for growth and happiness with your man
I'd love to hear your story if you have the time to tell it And what is your sun, if your guy friend is the Aquarius? Oh, and I forgot to ask, why is the Libra stellium unique? IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 09, 2011 06:10 AM
Bumpy.Any more opinions? IP: Logged |
zarea Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 09, 2011 08:08 AM
Hi Voix-de-la-MerI have a relationship that is defined by Uranus (both in synastry and composite), pluto, and Saturn. In synastry, I believe my pluto conjunct his ascendant and his uranus conjuncts mine. Uranus squares Venus and other planets as well. But also in the composite chart, Uranus conjuncts the ascendant. Besides that lots of saturn squares all over the place (venus, moon, uranus...you name it) So it's been a very fun, exciting, yet sober (saturn) relationship! My blood flows faster in my vein just being in the same room with him or seeing his face on my chat list...It's both Pluto and Uranus as culprit lol We're not technically together anymore but still together. Doesn't help that we're not in the same country. When we were living together, it was an unstable and exciting relationship. Since he's more uranus influence, he was and remains fiercely independent and I experienced him as exciting and unpredictable. But at the same time because of our pluto contacts there was mindblowing intimacy and togetherness. The thing with Uranus, is you can't control it. You have to move with the flow and you'll suffer less if you can do that both of you. Saturn and pluto will provide DURATION which you can interpret as stability but Uranus is still Uranus. if it has to bolt, it will bolt but Saturn and Pluto will bring you back together. Sometimes, the Uranian bolt is to move the relationship to another level. When we started dating, my ex broke up with me twice and it all came out of nowhere for me on both occasions. He felt overpowered by my pluto on his ascendant (among of course other life specific issues having nothing to do with Astrology) but he came back and the relationship got stronger more committed as a result. We're experiencing a new level of intimacy now for the past four months but distance is making it hard. Uranus can be maddening but in my case, it is the very foundation of the relationship and so I can't fight it, and TRUST ME, I've tried! I'm much happier and at peace with myself when I take it as it comes. as someone says above, Uranus applies also to unconventional relationships. Ours is just that. So if you're very conventional in your chart or values, you'll be challenged there too! Uranus will force you to view the world and experience it differently. I have Uranus in my 12th house natally so I'm a closeted unconventional type of person which is why I feel at home with my ex even though on the surface most people wonder why we got together in the first place. Hope that helps, IP: Logged |
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posted December 16, 2011 03:36 AM
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