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Topic: Love triangles (no, not threesomes)
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 1121 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 01, 2011 06:05 PM
I am curious what can show one to be prone to love triangles. In natal/synastry/composite, wherever you saw something significant relating to that. I guess I am such a person... Whether I am the one choosing between two men or some other woman appears on the horizont, every relationship I had started as a love triangle. I left most of my boyfriends for someone else, though I didn't cheat (technically) and with the 2 men I loved the most, there was a competition between me and another woman. Useless to point out that someone always gets hurt in a love triangle, if not everybody concerned (as was my case). So far, the indications I found were related to Sabian symbols: - my Sun (co-ruler of the 7th, intercepted ruler) - 14ŗ Aries (14): A SERPENT COILING NEAR A MAN AND A WOMAN. - my DC Sabian is pretty clear on that... 24ŗ Cancer (114): A WOMAN AND TWO MEN CASTAWAYS ON A SMALL ISLAND OF THE SOUTH SEAS. Few years back I read this article by Liz Greene (lengthy, but very good): http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_triangle_e.htm She says love triangles are shown by Venus in the parental houses...I have Venus on IC (though technically in the 3rd), UNASPECTED and a singleton.. Then there's Saturn and Chiron aspecting sex planets. Saturn opp Mars and chiron conj Venus...
I guess I'm some sort of poster child for love triangles... and not in the positive sense. Anybody else experience this sort of... division of affection? What do you have in your chart? How do you deal with it? ------------------ Whatever you give to a woman, she will make it GREATER. Give her SPERM, she will give you a BABY. Give her a HOUSE, she will give you a HOME. Give her GROCERIES, she will give you a MEAL. Give her LOVE, and she will give you her HEART! She multiplies and enlarges what she is given. So, if you give her CR@P, be prepared to receive a ton of SH!T! IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1121 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 01, 2011 06:27 PM
quote: Repeating triangles in adult life are frequently linked with planets in the parental houses. Often we will see Venus in the 10th or 4th. Venus describes what we perceive as beautiful and of value, and therefore what we love, both in ourselves and in others. If a parent appears in the birth chart as Venus, that parent is going to be a symbol of what we recognise as most beautiful, most valuable, and most worthwhile. That in itself is not negative. But it may mean that we project our own beauty and worth on the parent, and a lot then depends on how the parent handles such a projection. We see deeply lovable, worthwhile qualities or attributes in the parent and we fall in love with the parent because we are in love with the attributes. Hopefully, as we mature, we eventually introject these things, and recognise that they belong to us as well as to the mother or father. This process can help to create a lasting, loving bond between parent and child - a mutual valuing of the other for qualities which are shared. But not every parent is free of hidden agendas regarding his or her children. If the parent is too hungry for love and admiration, he or she will unconsciously work to maintain the projection and remain forever Venus in the childās eyes. Venus is not known in myth for her emotional generosity. She is a vain goddess and is repeatedly implicated in love triangles. If we leave the Venusian image projected on the parent, we may never recognise it in ourselves. Then we will keep looking for parental surrogates on whom we can place this image of all that is worthwhile and desirable in life, and we will keep finding Venusian love-objects who seem worth so much more than we do ourselves. Or we may try to reclaim Venus by playing her ourselves, pitting one lover against another in order to convince ourselves that we are really of value after all. Where Venus is, we love.
quote: Placements such as Venus aspecting Saturn or Chiron can contribute to this dynamic, not because they are in themselves Oedipal, but because they reflect certain insecurities which can be compounded by the family triangle. Mars aspecting Saturn and Chiron may also reflect deep sexual insecurities which are heightened by family triangles and lead to feelings of defeat. These sets of aspects may compel a repetition of the failure later, or an attempt to heal the hurt by proving oneās sexual potency through triangles. There is no single astrological pattern which describes a propensity for triangles, but rather, many different combinations which can describe different images of and responses to the parents, and different ways of reacting to the natural and inevitable Oedipal phase of childhood. Venus-Saturn and Venus-Chiron do not "cause" a person to be drawn into triangles, but they describe a deep and innate awareness of human limits which, in childhood, when there is no real comprehension of what this could offer in a positive sense, can lead the child into feeling inadequate and damaged. The loss or alienation of a beloved parent will then be attributed to oneās own failings, and later in life one may feel one cannot "keep" a partner because a rival will always take him or her away.
quote: The sad thing about triangles is that everybody loses. Sooner or later, on one level or another, all three people wind up hurt.
------------------ Whatever you give to a woman, she will make it GREATER. Give her SPERM, she will give you a BABY. Give her a HOUSE, she will give you a HOME. Give her GROCERIES, she will give you a MEAL. Give her LOVE, and she will give you her HEART! She multiplies and enlarges what she is given. So, if you give her CR@P, be prepared to receive a ton of SH!T! IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1830 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 01, 2011 09:24 PM
I am surprised some handsome Prince hasn't scooped you up and taken you to his castle.I think you're perfect Just the way you are IP: Logged |
*Prince~Darien* Knowflake Posts: 221 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 01, 2011 10:08 PM
did someone say, "Prince"?IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3860 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted December 01, 2011 10:57 PM
I have been proned to love triangles... I dont really want to get into the details at the moment... Im really tired tonight.. I do have Venus in H4 I have Chiron trine mars Chiron sextile saturn Saturn trine Mars. Well thanks for your post.. It did hit a spot with me.
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 1121 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 04, 2011 04:27 AM
Thank you, Lynda!It's not the lack of princes that I am scared of... But when I do get a prince, something always goes wrong. My ex was about to propose but his ex popped out of nowhere 6 months pregnant with his child... Now I'm with someone new... but I worry ex will return and I will be unable to choose. My ex is probably my closest soulmate in this lifetime, but the timing was so wrong... And I just don't want to hurt this other guy... because if ex comes back it will be very tempting. He and I had an uncanny connection. He was the only man I found to match me on every level. IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1121 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 04, 2011 04:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: I have been proned to love triangles... I dont really want to get into the details at the moment... Im really tired tonight.. I do have Venus in H4 I have Chiron trine mars Chiron sextile saturn Saturn trine Mars. Well thanks for your post.. It did hit a spot with me.
I'm sorry if my post brought back unpleasant memories, Lioness... I understand how painful it is... I just wish to stop doing this. IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 520 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 05:09 AM
We all know that there is really only one Prince in this play? : - ) IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 956 From: dumont, CO Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 01:04 PM
"Placements such as Venus aspecting Saturn or Chiron can contribute to this dynamic, not because they are in themselves Oedipal, but because they reflect certain insecurities which can be compounded by the family triangle. Mars aspecting Saturn and Chiron may also reflect deep sexual insecurities which are heightened by family triangles and lead to feelings of defeat. These sets of aspects may compel a repetition of the failure later, or an attempt to heal the hurt by proving oneās sexual potency through triangles. There is no single astrological pattern which describes a propensity for triangles, but rather, many different combinations which can describe different images of and responses to the parents, and different ways of reacting to the natural and inevitable Oedipal phase of childhood. Venus-Saturn and Venus-Chiron do not "cause" a person to be drawn into triangles, but they describe a deep and innate awareness of human limits which, in childhood, when there is no real comprehension of what this could offer in a positive sense, can lead the child into feeling inadequate and damaged. The loss or alienation of a beloved parent will then be attributed to oneās own failings, and later in life one may feel one cannot "keep" a partner because a rival will always take him or her away."Wow......I have venus/mars square chiron, my friend has venus conjunct saturn/uranus/neptune and hubby has Venus opposition chiron. We all have mommy issues except I have healed mine (both my mom and I have worked on ourselves) but they both hate their mothers, both of them have told me this more than once. The mother of hubby idolizes his brother and always wants to turn him into something he is not. The mother of friend left husband for another man and he then stayed with father who remarried a women who he thinks is a very evil woman. They were both sent off to boarding school when they were teenagers. They both feel loved and accepted by me just as they are among other things. Is like the needs their mothers did not meet I actually meet for both of them. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 956 From: dumont, CO Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 01:08 PM
I read that some triangles never end and last an entire lifetime. Here is a link on triangles and astrology that I found fascinating: http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_triangle_e.htm According to this link triangles are archetypes that have always been around and are quite common and can be expressed in my different ways. For example a triangle ca be between husband and wife and dog or husband and wife and wife's work. My parents had a triangle with my mom's career for most of their marriage but he learned to live with it. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 956 From: dumont, CO Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 01:10 PM
I have aphrodite in cancer in the 7th at 0 degrees. I think this is why I am good at meeting my partners needs and why they are both attracted to me. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3860 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted December 04, 2011 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: I'm sorry if my post brought back unpleasant memories, Lioness... I understand how painful it is... I just wish to stop doing this.
OO.... Im good girl Not to worry! IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 342 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 04, 2011 06:29 PM
Hera-I feel ya on the triangles... I'm prone to them too, except in my case, they are usually guys who were badly hurt by their exes and who haven't fully let go of the situation (even though it is obvious to everyone around them that their ex really doesn't want anything to do with them). I think they are usually attracted to me based on the fact that my personality is such an open and healing one... But once they get over their crap they go on their merry way, leaving me like "WTF?..." I'm trying to break this pattern, but for some reason it keeps coming back to me. It definitely has a Chironic theme- they are healing, but in the process it is hurting me. I've got: Chiron- 7th house (in Gemini) Chiron t-square- opp. Jupiter/Uranus (1st house)/square Venus/Sun (9th and 10th house) Saturn EXACTLY sextile Venus (0'Scorpio to 0'Virgo) Venus/Sun ruled by Mercury (but in the 10th house-house of Saturn) In that article about triangles, I also thought it was interesting that it said there are triangles relating to parent issues with people who have either 10th or 4th house planets. My Venus is in the 9th, but conjunct the MC and my Sun and Mercury are in the 10th. I don't really feel like it is all tied to my parents... I actually had a fairly good childhood. I will say though, that my mom (love her to death, but...) taught me on an unconscious level that if I'm not the prettiest, thinnest girl on earth, I won't have much choice in my relationships. I say that it was done on an unconscious level because my mother is overweight and she punishes herself for it, and I think I learned that behavior on some level because, even though she's never judged me for it, I do it too, even though I am really only slightly overweight. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto Newflake Posts: 6 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 08:59 AM
I am browsing through posts in lindaland and this just strike a cord in my heartstring... I'm prone to trangles too.. It is not so having to choose between two men that is difficult as once decision is made, it is firm. It is after choosing that one to discover he is later not avaliable cos his ties with his ex-wife is still dragging or in one heart wretching case, to discover the soulmate you feel you have been waiting for and he feels the same way, to discover his very ex-gf is pregnant in a overly complicated situation... I always attribute it to my venus square saturn (Exact). . IP: Logged | |