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posted December 02, 2011 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would the pluto person see a lot of things they don't like?

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posted December 02, 2011 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not in my opinion. Pluto would see the "true" core of the other person. Whether that truth is an ugly one or not... it depends.

And on second thought, no core is ugly. So an evolved Pluto would see the real motivations behind more reprimandable behaviors and understand why the person acted that way.

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posted December 02, 2011 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we all got an ugly within us...
i'm just thinking pluto opposition would see it more readly...
the trine would most likely see what you were talking with na evolved pluto....

i'm not disagreeing,
just want to be sure
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posted December 02, 2011 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really depends on the Pluto person how this is gonna go.
I've been Pluto often, in opp to their Aries Sun, maybe cos their Sun would be conj my MC, but I adore them. We literally never have a single problem.
HOWevah, lmao, when MY SUN has been in opp to a Virgo Pluto (whoa sheet) they pull out all the stops to try to drain me of any energy/power that I could possibly possess. It's quite sick. But that's Pluto in Virgo for ya, the harping on the details, no forest for the trees, etc. I let em get away w.the childish behavior, thinking OK, it's just a mood, they're being obsessively picky/petty right now, but "they're gonna stop"..but they've all just wanted to have me pegged down and unable to move (Pisces Sun here, so I don't take kindly to someone wanting to have me all figured out). And the more elusive I act, the more they want to pull on their imaginary reins. Sadly they don't listen when I spell out the problem (you would think Virgo might), so in true Pisces fashion I have to take on their act and throw it back at them, as much as is needed to restore the balance. Yea, they can't stand it, but it works; I pull it out of my lil bag o' tricks whenever I feel they are overstepping their bounds. I'll be same ol' me afterwards, if I liked em before, I will like 'em again, but do not try to file me away and think you're gonna always know what I will do, because you won't bwaahaaha you never will. That is my one big gripe with anything in Virgo, pick pick pick until the true essence is lost.

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posted December 02, 2011 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"would the pluto person see a lot of things they don't like?"

I think in themselves, yes.
I have this aspect with someone. He's the pluto, Im the sun.
We are like mirrors to each other.
He always helps/inspires me to be the REAL me (sometimes in a cruel way), and in exchange, he discovers a lot of things about himself too. Which are not always nice.
We have seen in each other both in our best and worst moments... You can learn a lot about acceptance with this aspect, and If you honestly like/love someone then not even their worst behaviour seems ugly.

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posted December 02, 2011 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just thinking it could mean 'issues' in the sense of the Pluto person wanting to control the sun one or something...? Dunno.

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posted December 02, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect a lot with people of my generation so coworkers, bosses, boyfriends and it always ends up as a control issue.

There are very few laid back people that i have met that simply will let me be, control is an issue with a lot of people over the years. The people I have this in synastry with that say it is not an issue may not be looking at it from all angles. That is why I thought about dating older or younger people for a change.

The pluto trine sun works completely differently, it is a warm, friendly relationship that is truly inspiring, uplifting and motivating.

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posted December 02, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I agree, the trine is typically v.empowering (unless there is some strange horrid aspect that gets in the way from the Sun person's chart to the Pluto person's)....but even then, the Sun person would still be able to get to the core of the Pluto person's msg, just by watching them interact w.others, and then incorporate that msg to operate from a stronger position. It's really fascinating how quickly that trine can change someone for the better.

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posted December 02, 2011 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was writing the first message, I was thinking the same thing - I'm always confused as to whom feels what. I found from my research on Neptune a very good astrologer (the name escapes me) who said that it is Neptune who is at worst deluded by the personal planet or spiritually inspired. If it applies to Neptune, it applies to all the outer planets.

I have the opposition with lots of folks from my generation, but as a Plutonian myself, other that obsessing over my relationships, I can't say that the "saw" me. It's mostly the other way around, but again, it's from my natal.

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posted December 02, 2011 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weird...this thread has me thinking because Ive been a sun conj pluto in libra opposite a whole lot of aries suns and I saw a lot I didn't like. Maybe I am picking on them becuase of pluto? Or is it just my sun opp sun, Im not sure.

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posted December 02, 2011 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Synastry_Sun_opposition_Pluto
i just found this

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posted December 02, 2011 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read an interpretation for this aspect once that the Sun person can shine the light on the Pluto persons "dark ways"

Was very close to dating a guy I had this aspect with.
When I first saw him I was like oh sh!t, this the type of guy I swore off. I say that cause, no job, no school, drugs.
But he ended up being a good flirt. But then the more and more the flirtation went on the more fickle and the excuses he had.

I was into him, and I ended up feeling obsessed...is it him? or do I just have to much time on my hands?...yeh...Like I felt like I was slipping into my old ways. When I have been able to go so long turning down/be repulsed by his type.

He said he liked me. Did he mean it, or is he a fake person? Or is he really that fickle minded?...yeh. (he has Gem moon. lol I have gem rising and Scorp Moon I like someone right away with out knowing them much but I know I can easily change my mind which is why I almost never say it first. lol)

I've talked about him on here before this is the guy that stood me up on a date.

Anyway long story short. Even though he is 10 years older than me he was still more boy than man.

I think I intimidated him a bit, he acted like he wanted to get to know me and not move fast...as if he had class or something. (If he would of played his cards right I would of been fine with it being just a fling) He wanted to take me on a date even though he's practically broke. And I indirectly said hell no that wont happen when he texted "I hope you wont have to pay for me" (he asked me on the date yo!)

He has a girlfriend now and I saw her picture. I was like REALLY wth!! At least she isn't prettier than me.
I think she is one of those generous girls that always pays. I'm pretty sure this is the girl that he says that was his friend that got him his phone...so of course he is gonna pick her over me. LOL (and hey maybe they just have better chemestry/synastry)

My Sun is in Aries 22 and my Mars in Aqua 23 I notice a pattern with me and Libra guys. The are master flirts, I feel special, I get turned on...and then one day the decide to depose of me. I get so ****** , they come back and I'm like f*ck you...give them another chance and they do it again.
(this is my experiences with Libra dudes when it come to romance...expect for one he was never charming at all.)

I'm probably more suited for Gemini cause of the sextile and trine to my Sun and Mars. (lol too bad I'll be freakin old when pluto hits Gemini.)

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posted December 03, 2011 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stawr, were u pluto or sun in this case? thank you

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posted December 03, 2011 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was Sun(Aries) he was Pluto (Libra)

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posted December 03, 2011 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leonine8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the Pluto does the seeing and really needs to back down/mellow out/detach if the relationship is goimg to work.

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posted December 05, 2011 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so i have sun square pluto with this guy. how does he does do the controlling?

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posted December 07, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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