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Lonake
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posted December 04, 2011 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I have seen this come up in death charts (Saturn/NN), and was curious as to what interpretations that are out there on this, transits to NN don't come up often, and today I found this interpretation that seemed to speak to it:

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You are assimilating knowledge gained from past experiences in order to further discover and achieve your purpose in life. It is likely that you are reaping the rewards of past actions and receiving benefits which enable you to achieve your purpose. There is a time for reaping and a time for sowing. This is your time for reaping. Of course the better the seeds that you have sown, the better the crop will be. For this reason this is a significant turning point in your personal destiny possibly involving a meeting with a highly-significant person, the appearance of a group of people to help you on your path or an event which will change your future.

The theme of reaping and sowing now makes sense in the sense of death being during a karmic time, but obviously not everyone dies under this transit.

So what changes did you undergo under Saturn/NN?

For the record I had this...I dunno, I was maybe 20 or so, it was through my 12th and I was putting different things in my life in order and was in a quiet sort of place, making big plans for my future. I moved to a different state, and started a new life, but contrary to the interp I didn't meet a highly significant person/group.
Saturn rules my 6th & is placed in the 3rd, but the themes I encountered didn't have to do with either house.

Something else I read online tied Saturn/NN to reincarnation memories when in hard aspect. Have never had one of those, so that one didn't apply either.

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posted December 04, 2011 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I was curious about this too.. When I met my ex's mom, her Natal North Node was exactly conjunct transit Saturn...

And, my Ascendant is on this.

I talked to an amazing psychic, he told me I was a lover with his mom in a past life. lol.. Anyway, surely interesting.

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posted December 04, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I graduated from HS at this time..

I messed up alot in school, and was kicked out.. I was 1.5 year behind in HS credits.
I got my butt in gear and got all my credits I was behind..
I took school books to do extra work
I worked at an elementary school for HS credit..

My only focus was graduating.

In the long run, I graduated a month earlier than I would have, if I didnt mess up in school.

NN in CAP in H11

I was also having Pluto sq my Sun,Moon,Merc at this time.

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posted December 04, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going through this right now as well as Saturn opposing the Natal Sun.
(10th house)

I'm reaping rewards right now,
I received a great promotion in May which resulted in me nearly doubling my salary but there are things going on with my kids that are stressful.

My happiness and well being depends largely on how smooth their lives run.

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posted December 04, 2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn conjunct NN for me back in 2003. Can't really think of anything too significant. Around that time, I was in turmoil about my job, and what I should be doing. I was trying to think of a new career path, and felt very confused and blocked. Unfortunately for me in the end, I decided to go the nursing route, which turned into a colossal error later down the line. Ugh... oh, to have those years back... <sigh...> Oh well, can't dwell on that now...

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I have NN in the 12th. When Saturn conjuncted it, this happened to me:
http://in2worlds.net/gangstalking-and-targeted-individuals

It sounds insane but is the closest that comes to explaining what happened to me at that time.

It's like someone (secret enemy? 12th House) was out to have me institutionalized.

I went back to my homeland for a month and when I returned, things went back to normal. (As in, all that crap stopped.)

It sounds like paranoid schizophrenia but I read that paranoid schizophrenia is permanent but in my case it just stopped. I don't know, maybe I'll have a reoccurring episode if I have another transit to the NN.

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posted December 05, 2011 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it might need to be more tied into personal planets to feel. I have Saturn conj the SN - oppose the NN - and also conj my Sun/Moon midpoint exactly in natal. I think if you have this as a transit then you are getting tested all the time. If it hits the personal planets, you will feel that test.
It also depends on the sign its in in how it manifests. For a SN in Cancer, with a Saturn in Cancer too, I am very hung up on the past and have a strong tendency to be weepy and nostalgic. For Saturn to be on your SN is kind of a pain - it might pull you back in the sense of making you feel trapped. I'd say it's a blessing in disguise on the NN because it whips you into respecting your NN purpose , for better or worse.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Tr Saturn was conjunct my SN and opposing the 3rd house ruler Neptune and squaring Jupiter in 3rd house, an aquaitance, the boyfriend of a good friend of mine (3rd house is the 5th counted fr om 11th house), died in a motorcycle accident.

I do not like the feel of Tr Saturn to my Neptune-NN-conjunction. Had the square a while ago, when Saturn was on 10 Virgo.

It is not always as bad as in the above example, but always a very significant, serious time.

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posted December 05, 2011 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Icarus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, a major life-changing event like moving halfway around the world. Also met someone. All happened while transit Saturn stationed on the ASC and NN.

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posted December 05, 2011 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had this this summer.

my NN is conjunct Pluto and SN to moon, so it shook my axis to the core, so to speak. i didn't meet anyone new or had promotions, but i met my "self" and went through a huge reconstruction and recognising the "self" i had lost, defining it. in order to do this, i had to go through a distressing 2 years prior to it, and finally i could sort out my experience and wade through the mud to arrive where i am now... still tying up the loose ends after a few months. but i see clearer.

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posted December 05, 2011 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beginning to mid-October 2009 was when Saturn transited my natal NN, 27 Virgo 1'16", 10th House. Most direct influence would have been sextile natal Jupiter as well. Examining my transit around this time period, particularly the slower-moving transits, I had in addition:

Tr Lucifer conjunct natal Lust (late 7th house Cancer)
Tr NN conjunct natal Lucifer/Juno (2nd house Capricorn)
Tr Kaali/Moon conjunct natal Ascendant (Sagittarius)
Edit: Forgot to mention Tr Kaali/Moon/Natal Ascendant are also square natal Saturn/Sun, Sun being on 0 Vir 15'31", 9th house).
Tr Juno/Uranus conjunct natal Pholus/Dejanira (4th house Pisces, close to IC which is at 19 Pis 41')
Tr Mars passing over natal Black Moon Lilith and then natal Jupiter (8th house Cancer)

All of this is important as:
Finally got a job involving computers after a year of no work, then almost-not-worth-it warehouse temp jobs. Very soon after, my last ex and I got together near the last 2 weeks of October. That lasted 3 days, said "we were going too fast." That and um, she had a bit of an unexpected secret she confided in me (STD). A week later, we're at the same Halloween party, and I crash on the couch, being too blitzed to drive home. Upstairs I hear my freshly-new-ex and the party host/good friend of mine... yeah. You can see where that's going. Plus she didn't admit until after the fact that she had had a crush on that friend for over a decade. Yep, I got used.

I enter a very dark phase at that point, and 3 weeks later experience a hellstorm from my previous ex (well, "ex-friends with benefits" really, and after the hellstorm, most certainly ex-friends) from 9 years earlier. That exchange also did not end well. Long story I'd rather not get into at that point, but I will say I will not tolerate being screamed at over the phone like that no matter how badly I've screwed up.

Then promptly a few days later, laptop dies, which I needed for the computer job and which all but ended my duties as they just got hammered by a downturn in business at the same time (thus no repair work available for me to have something to do until I repaired/replaced the laptop, which wound up being replaced after a failed motherboard swap). I quickly get another job and am relegated to part-time-as-needed at the first computer job, and also at the same time had a side thing with a friend doing experimental search-engine-optimization for his business partner (for 3 jobs total). Then after a couple months, THOSE newer two jobs falter, and immediately (later that week) after in middle of January 2010, tractor trailer eats my car. While I'm in it. (glancing blow, but still totaled the thing). Then another romantic interest of mine and a online "friend", well he sneaks in under the radar, and April 2010, a week before I start my current job, I'm over for a gaming night at my one friend's place (we reconciled and he stopped the getting-black-out-drunk thing right after the mess with my recent ex), best friend on the couch across from me, and what do I hear upstairs? online "friend" and my not-romantic-interest-anymore... yeah, in the same house. (The up-until-recent-interest and the friend I reconciled with are cousins and lived in the same place). Needless to say, I didn't come back for awhile, and my best friend didn't need any explanation as, well, he was there to witness as well. The friend I had reconciled with, well, he wasn't thrilled with my reaction (reopened wounds), and we almost told each other where to go at that point.

In other words, last time Saturn transited my NN, it f****** sucked. Honestly, it's a wonder I'm still alive after all that. But if I survived that, I should be good with a lot of things.

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posted December 05, 2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Prince~Darien*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, i was out one day quite a long time ago and met this group of people and one of them was unbelievably drawn to me (their sun in my twelfth)

after a while, i guess they started to feel more comfortable, and let me know that they had been selling marijuana for a while and that they used to sell to a really old jewish couple that had been married for a really long time.

they never had any children and he was the only one that they knew who was young and that they trusted (apparently they would also hang out and just exchange stories and talk about random stuff while they had their mutually beneficial relationship)

he ended up inheriting whatever business the people had while saturn moved over his north node.. he had no family ties to them or anything and i believe this happened while saturn was in virgo.

my sun is in virgo and maybe that's why the guy trusted me enough to tell me that, dunno, but i looked at their chart and after chatting found that out..

i guess there's a newfound 'responsible' thing that goes along with it.

the 'saturn' theme went into play because he had never had any experience nor had a degree in business.

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posted December 06, 2011 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Onto the analysis (!)

So we have,
---big move/making a dramatic change in the life, re:education (1st post)
---saturn/nn/asc all combining in synastry/transit, to possibly point to a past life recognition (athenegoddess)
---forward momentum, taking responsibility for direction in life, re:education (Lioness)
---moving forward in career as a result of past efforts (lalalinda)
---feeling pushed to figure out a new path, but uncertain, possibly clouded by own wants/wants of others? re:education as it related to career (CosmicKarma360)
---path was put on hold due to others intervening, a temporary locational move (to a different country/territory/state ?) (Capriquarius)
---big move, met someone who possibly changed life path (a soul mate?) (Icarus - who has ASC on his/her NN)
---defined self which set them on a new path (would that be correct?) (lechien - who has Pluto on his/her NN)
---many upheavals related to the career, difficult to feel grounded and settled on path (BlackSeraph)
---unexpected career change (*Prince~Darien*)

Ceridwen, could you explain the feel of Saturn on your NN/Neptune? Being prodded to drop illusions/make a change? Or something else entirely?

lechien,
The Saturn/Pluto conj I believe was the reason yours was so harrowing. I have this conjunction natally, so I can understand (in a way) the pressure and extremes you were under.

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I have the feeling, from my own and reading the experiences here, that more often than not t.Saturn on NN forces pressure on your general life path, wanting you to get your butt in gear and to start defining your life for yourself. And the challenge is that you don't have to take it on, you could muddle around, but if you do you end up paying the price. I know that for me there was a feeling of forward momentum, the sort of 'it's now or never, gotta give it all I've got' which can bring about a lot of change. If you are not actively instigating change in your life re:taking on added responsibility for yourself, then you are reaping either rewards or possibly sadness from past deeds (nodes are a karmic axis, Saturn is the planet of karma). So it'd be true to say that this is not a transit to take lightly.

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Saturn on SN may be a time that challenges one to cut ties, but I haven't looked into this. I was going through an intense emotional period at this time, where I wanted certain relationships to end, I felt somewhat at a breaking point (t.Saturn was conj n.SN/Venus & sq to n.Mars/Saturn/Pluto).
I wonder if t.Saturn on our SN can represent when we experience the deaths of those close to us, our soul mates?
Or our relationships with soul mates might enter a tumultuous period, possibly.

From Ceri,

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When Tr Saturn was conjunct my SN and opposing the 3rd house ruler Neptune and squaring Jupiter in 3rd house, an aquaitance, the boyfriend of a good friend of mine (3rd house is the 5th counted fr om 11th house), died in a motorcycle accident.

I wonder were you close with her partner? Or did his death change the nature of your friendship? If this is the friend that I think you are talking about, then she is the close one who is your soul mate, yes? (The one with a lot of MC in the synastry?)

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---path was put on hold due to others intervening, a temporary locational move (to a different country/territory/state ?) (Capriquarius)

It was actually a turnaround in path. As crazy as it sounds, it felt like these spiritual beings (according to that website link, demons) were forcing me to quit my 6th House SN ways and pursue 12th House matters, which I'd been disregarding until that point.

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posted December 06, 2011 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Oh that is good. Makes more sense in that way as well re: other experiences shared.

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posted December 06, 2011 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Prince~Darien*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
L-O-LLLLLLLLLLLL @ "career change"

i <3 u!

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*Prince~Darien*
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posted December 06, 2011 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Prince~Darien*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not to digress, but, lonake... would you mind i just lay here and gently stared into your eyes?



...watchu thinkin?///////

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posted December 06, 2011 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You got me curious and I looked for this transit... when it was retrograding over my NN, my grandmother died and I got divorced the same month. She passed away six years ago today.
When it went direct and passed once again over the NN, five months later, my career in television took off. I was also having a Jupiter on the asc transit in Dec 2005 and it exited the 1st in June 2006.

NN in Leo, 10th house.

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posted December 06, 2011 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by *Prince~Darien*:
L-O-LLLLLLLLLLLL @ "career change"


Well if you can make a living, have a name for yourself, and you know what you're doing, sounds like a career to me (!) It's a big business. And pretty eyes, btw

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@maira, Sounds like it fits right in line....tho I'm not too sure if the actual sign or house matters, at least it didn't for me (just re: this transit), tho it does make sense for tv work.

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posted December 06, 2011 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
---many upheavals related to the career, difficult to feel grounded and settled on path (BlackSeraph)

Pretty much. I should also note that the first computer job I mentioned (where I had to use my own laptop for much of it) didn't pay much, and I had to watch my own taxes as well (was an "independent contractor" status really).

The worst part was, one of the women who worked there happened to be the mother of the friend I had the trouble with, and by extension was also the aunt of his cousin... yeah, I worked with a close relative of the two people that I had the "other person" incidents in the same house with. And they have strong family ties too. You could say things really got awkward even at the job (and I didn't really cover why with the coworker, as that would've made things extremely awkward), and it's a good thing I got my current job when I did (and thus out of that one).

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posted December 06, 2011 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ You have so much relationship karma that my eyes glaze over at all of it Hope your sanity has returned?

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posted December 07, 2011 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ You have so much relationship karma that my eyes glaze over at all of it Hope your sanity has returned?

For it to return, I'd have had to have been sane in the first place

Yeah, I'm not entirely positive what that's all about. I'm apprehensive to see what the next Saturn square to the node is going to be like. I think the previous time it conjuncted my natal node, I was like 3 or 4 or so, and that's when my parents got burglarized. Thieves were never caught. Dad had to sell some of his machine shop equipment to keep the house after that.

Now there's a good question... for those old enough to have gone through two Saturn/NN conjuncts, were they comparable as far as you know, or different experiences?

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posted May 26, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread scared me a bit :-/ Saturn is conjunct my NN exact and will be passing it again later on since it is retrograde right now.
Anyone has something nice to say about this? I'm already changing my life around career wise...

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