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lindisfarne
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posted December 05, 2011 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what was more hard, conversing with Cancer mercury or Pisces mercury. My sister has this placement, as well as my boyfriend. As much as I adore him, he takes little things very personally.. they both do. they will do something and I won't understand it. Often I will get called insensitive or not attentive. Or I will do something and they won't get it, they'll think it's "not enough" sorry to sound vague I'll give an example later...

And I've found this to ring true with Mercury Pisces. We have very different ways of communicating, I'm straight forward my ideas come right out of me, no filter I'll admit, I say what's here and there.. I find when I'm among water mercuries an inappropriate amount of time is wasted trying to make them understand very simple concrete ideas, or trying to break things down to get them to not take the personal view, not to get offended.

I'll just give an example here:
Air mercury: I believe that there should be a device to help old people move faster because they slows down other people in society.
Water mercury: Why would you say that? That's very mean/rude how could you? Don't you know my aunt/uncle/whoever is old and is having trouble walking/getting places because (insert physical dysfunction)
Air mercury: Okay.. I just meant it would be easier if a device was created to help them move quicker. Whats the problem?
Water mercury: What's the problem? You have no soul! Thats why! Sorry if old people are so inconvenient for you.
Air mercury: That's not what I said.

-leaving the rest to your imagination -

That's a prime example of the dynamic of water vs air mercury conversation.
Why do I just feel like ripping my hair out when conversing with water mercury? I'm not attacking anyone here. From my experience. I find that in order to resolve things I need to just sever the discussion or communication but it won't end there, sometimes they'll bring it up days from now in an entirely new topic LOL!

Are air and water mercuries just not compatible here?
How can I present ways without some freakout or one of us not "getting" it.

Sun conjunct mercury in Aquarius house 1

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SmilingHeart
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posted December 05, 2011 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, air mercury takes all the emotional and empathic qualities out of the conversation and water mercury puts all the emotion they have into it.

The problem is the lack of flexibility on both sides. Yes, you can look at this problem from many different perspectives but if you refuse to look into someone elses perspective you will never get to a point where you can get your argument across.

The key to a successful conversation with a Water Mercury is making it emotionally relatable.
Air mercury can sound very cold and calculating sometimes which is probably harder for water mercury than for any other placement.

So if you want to converse peacefully and successfully with those water merc peeps you can either wait until they start understanding you logic or change the way you're making your arguments.
Or you can give up, lol.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted December 05, 2011 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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pandacake
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posted December 05, 2011 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pandacake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel you here as I'm air mercury too. They are intuitive and sensitive people that could easily place themselves in other people's position. A water sign could probably imagine that if they were that old person and they would hear such a statement, they'd feel hurt too.

For me the real difficult part with water signs is how to communicate with them if they don't use words, or use words differently than what they should mean.

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jooles
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posted December 05, 2011 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pisces mercury and I pick up on the tone of the conversation. Sometimes it becomes more important than the actual words and the tone or connotations will become the focus of the entire conversation.

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"I really wish that there was a device that could help senior citizens improve their mobility. It must be frustrating for them not to be able to get around as easily or as quickly as they used to."

This is the perfect way to phrase it. The focus is placed on the person that is truly inconvenienced and not on how it impacts on able bodied people.

I was speaking with a friend of mine the other day and he started pushing his opinion on me. He was really trying to help me but he just kept pushing, to the point he stopped listening. My eyes welled up and I started crying and it was only at this point he realized that I was upset. He gave me a hug and said he had to run but he would be back. I wouldn’t have been able to discuss it while I was upset anyways, but the fact that he came back showed he cared and it was more than enough for me to feel comfortable enough to discuss it. If his choice was to ignore that I was upset, it would tell me that he wasn’t someone I could trust or depend on as a friend.

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CAY_512
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posted December 05, 2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only water mercury that is hard for me to deal with is Scorpio. I love to interact with people who have all other Scorpio placements but mercury in Scorpio is to critical and sarcastic for my Leo mercury, but I do think they have wonderful minds.

I have found that I've had some of the best conversations with Sagittarius mercurys with Scorpio suns.

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lalalinda
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posted December 05, 2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I find when I'm among water mercuries an inappropriate amount of time is wasted trying to make them understand very simple concrete ideas,...lindasfarm

substitute the word "make" with "force" and you've got your answer.

at least that's the way you come off on the board, and condescending.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted December 05, 2011 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pandacake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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