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Topic: Venus Lucifer vs Venus Hesperus - Which one is yours?
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 3167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 05, 2011 09:51 AM
Hello guys,I was reading this article about the two types of Venus, the Morning Star (Lucifer), when Venus is before the Sun, and the Evening Star (Hesperus), when Venus is after the Sun, and I wondered if they actually have a true meaning to them. Here's an extract of this article: http://www.khaldea.com/planets/venus_type2.shtml quote: Venus Lucifer A new Venus cycle opens when the Sun and Venus meet in inferior conjunction. It is a moment when the Venusian faculties of emotion and evaluation are impressed with what Dane Rudhyar calls a "new quality of will and purpose." But the new quality of Venusian response and meaning does not become realized all at once. It is rather gradually translated from potentiality to actuality throughout the 584-day Venus cycle. The first half-cycle of the Venus cycle is characterized by a spontaneous, eager and impulsive emotional nature. It corresponds with the constructive, biological activity predominate during the waxing hemicycle (from the conjunction to the opposition) of the lunation cycle. But while the approximately 29-day lunation cycle deals with our most basic and essential life forces, and with adapting to the demands of daily life, the Venus cycle deals with our inner nature and the set of meaning-giving values guiding our daily actions and forming our long-term goals. People born during the Luciferian or Morning Star half of the Venus cycle generally let their feelings lead the way, tending to feel and emote first and think later, especially if natal Venus rises before Mercury. They are emotionally fresh, spontaneous and open to new experiences. Emotionally resilient, Venus Morning Star people usually recover quickly from emotional or romantic disappointment, while Venus Evening Star people are more likely to scar emotionally and carry deep-seated resentments because their emotional make-up tends to process and replay scenes of disappointment and hurt. But when a Venus Lucifer person, especially one born while Venus was retrograde, experiences profound emotional pain or abuse early in life, she may "close down" emotionally and assume a protective or fearful attitude toward life and relationships.Venus Hesperus Venus' second half-cycle begins at the superior conjunction – which always occurs when Venus is direct and moving through the zodiac near its greatest velocity – and continues until the next inferior conjunction. A few weeks after the Sun and Venus meet in superior conjunction, Venus emerges on the other side of the Sun, appearing as Hesperus the Evening Star. Corresponding with the waning hemicycle of the lunation cycle (from Full Moon to New Moon), Venus' Evening Star half-cycle denotes a deliberate and goal-oriented emotional make-up seeking to extract and distill the meaning of experiences encountered and ideals formulated during the Morning Star half-cycle. Whereas emotions and feelings eagerly rushed forward during the Venus Lucifer period, they are now more controlled and introverted in the Venus Evening Star period, though not necessarily less intense! Although Venus Evening Star people may not show emotions are largely and as easily as Venus Morning Star types, they often experience emotions more intensely because they tend to become more privately and internally involved with their emotions and their emotional life. Feeling after the fact, so to say, Venus Hesperus people may take a long time to recover from emotional trauma, thinking about and anguishing over a lost love or a bitter disappointment for years.
So what do you guys think?
I have a Lucifer Venus and I am not sure I agree with the interpretation, but that may be because my Venus aspects Saturn (?). IP: Logged |
*Prince~Darien* Knowflake Posts: 221 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 05:53 PM
well, whichever way you decide to have it, i'm not sure if the article mentions whether venus would be 'rising' before or after the sun if one looks at it in the counter-clockwise way we read astrological charts or the way in which the sun actually 'moves' as time passes before rising over the horizon come dawn (which would be clockwise, instead) so, just thought i'd put it out there.. just in case.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1590 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 05:55 PM
My Venus is the sign before my sun. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 06:16 PM
Venus Hesperus (Evening Star). It's pretty true, actually. IP: Logged |
appleberry Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 08:44 PM
Well, my Sun is in the 6th and Venus in the 5th. My partner's Sun is Sag 7* and Venus Sag 13*, both 2nd house. Am I a Lucifer and is he a Hesperus? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 3167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 06, 2011 05:59 AM
Yes, that's right.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6402 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 06, 2011 07:06 AM
I am a Venus Hesperus then, and it fits. But maybe that is because my Venus is in Cappy and therefore kind of introverted anyway.IP: Logged |
downtomars Knowflake Posts: 1179 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 06, 2011 07:12 AM
Venus Lucifer - Yup, I bounce back quickly...IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1114 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 06, 2011 10:05 AM
Venus Lucifer..well Lucifer is a pretty cool guy in my book. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Knowflake Posts: 1088 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 06, 2011 09:33 PM
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