posted December 06, 2011 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Although your Aries-obsession is annoying.. and I’ll try to avoid those threads in the future….. for whatever reason, as much as one can tell online – I think you are a very likable person!
Maybe it’s my Jupiter conj your Moon.
You have a very upbeat personality and lots of mental energy – constant new ideas.. new threads – always asking engaging questions. Most of the time you act like positive side of Aquarius Mercury. I have Merc sq Uranus so I like Aqua Merc.
But every so often it descends into bit*chiness… Maybe that’s why people are put off or intimidated.

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posted December 06, 2011 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I think that sometimes (not always) you might come off as a bit abrasive at times, *but* I honestly don't think that you *mean* to do that, and I don't feel like you're malicious. Just that sometimes you might present yourself in ways that people might find abrasive--like in the Water Mercury thread with the comment about elderly people who move slowly. It's not that you have a bad heart; sometimes things just come out a bit brash. It's not that what you say or what you think is bad--just sometimes, it comes out (unintentionally) in a way that's disconnecting.

I do think, though, that you're reaching out to people and that you're trying to understand yourself, and I think that with time (if I recall, you're in your late teens, right?), you'll gradually start refining your manner of expression--still keeping your ideas, and still being you, just in a more connecting way. I think that you understand yourself well and that you've been working on this forum to try to understand others and connect with them better.

I'd also say that maybe it's your Aqua-ness that people might find harsh. Aquas shake things up; they aren't complacent. They have to dig for everything (in a different way than Scorpios, though). Aquas aren't content to let things be; they're always challenging things. So, it could be your strong Aquarius that's intimidating.

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MMmmmm yeah I hear that too. I can't help it honestly I dont think most of what i say is a problem -so yeah that disconnect is definitely there. I don't always get why someone would be upset with me or like that thread of mine with mercuries (air vs water) it wouldn't register, often it doesn't register. The most I would do is probably go home and think on it, more like intellectualizing the situation. The only form of conceptualizing things for me, growing up, was to intellectualize things and I did it to an extreme so i never always understand emotional responses like that. I try to. but it doesn't sink in followed by me not really wanting to change because it didn't sink it and if it didn't sink in i can't see what the problem is. Does that make sense? But I am trying. Trying to understand others, I like playing with people sometimes to *get* them understand them, when I understand you, I understand me. Does that also make sense for you? For e.g my boyfriend has water merc. My disconnect is always there. I just dont "get" how he communicates 80% of the time. Im air merc, I stick to what i know. I try very hard to get him get his way of communicating, understand why some things I do or say that I find non-offensive, he finds ultra hurtful. It doesn't register... but Im trying to let it register.
'The digging bit rings true. I ignore that wanting to know everything involves pushing people, and their boundaries/making them uncomfortable but that still won't stop me, the need to know is far more important. Sorry if that sounds harsh!

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Tactfulness - I know this is not a strong trait for me. I have not practiced being tactful. People point it out to me but I have not yet bothered to polish myself in that area, mainly because it doesn't register with me... I dont like getting too touchy-feely with people. I like to talk about a whole bunch of stuff, even serious things, but I still don't want to get touchy-feely with others. That's another minor issue. I know I have a strong habit of coming off as very insensitive its mainly centered around my impatience with people. i think "more important things to worry about" and you'd think "SO my feelings are not important" of course your feelings are important.. but not right now. Does that make sense hahaha... I think we can deal with feelings and that sensitive good stuff behind closed doors (thats how I think of it)

posted December 06, 2011 01:33 AM            

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Tone? How can there be tone through online conversations? Isn't that entirely your perception and nothing to do with me if you sense a certain tone? Correct me if I am wrong. I am curious about this tone bit. People mention tone. But does that exist online? Compared to seeing someone up close?

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Tone is not just vocal modulation or facial expression... It's also the manner of which you express yourself. Online, that manner is generally perceived through the words and phrases you choose to use.

For example, I can write:

"Lindisfarne, you sound like a stuck-up ***** ."

That would come across as having a negative, abrasive tone when read. It doesn't make you feel good to read.

However, if I said:

Lindisfarne, please choose your words wisely. You come across as snobby.

posted December 06, 2011 01:34 AM            

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LOL.. Aries who?!

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Hope this lasts!

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probably hurt your feelings, but I won't come right out and tell you that

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I sound a lot more emotional (Pisces Merc) than I actually am (Capricorn Moon).. so it wasn't a biggie. The only things that really hurt my feelings are major (like someone dying)... otherwise it's all things I can forget about.

lindis - you're a fun person.. and there's nothing wrong with being blunt. But I think it could be a bit more controlled.. I'm not sure if that makes sense.
Your North Node is in Sag - so you are meant to be straight forward and honest. This is actually a good thing for you spiritually. Read up more on Sag NN if you haven't already! It's probably also why you like Sagittarius people - as you were saying on your other thread.

posted December 06, 2011 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Tone is not just vocal modulation or facial expression... It's also the manner of which you express yourself. Online, that manner is generally perceived through the words and phrases you choose to use.

For example, I can write:

"Lindisfarne, you sound like a stuck-up ***** ."

That would come across as having a negative, abrasive tone when read. It doesn't make you feel good to read.

However, if I said:

Lindisfarne, please choose your words wisely. You come across as snobby.

Same meaning, different connotation. You'd react differently with that phrase.

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