posted December 08, 2011 06:29 PM            

I have always wondered this.... pickiness. Thats something I am. I wouldn't change it for the world to be honest. Of course people can get impatient with me, but I believe if I am a paying customer you must prepare what I've asked for, done to my liking. Anything from picking out chicken It has to be the "perfect" piece LOL from the perfect looking potato. What I eat has to look... presentable (to my standards) if it looks odd looking in shape its hard for me to eat it. I pay attention to detail in an artsy way with my food... Im asking this because a woman called me rude and picky this evening. I went to this store I always go to every week to order pizza, and I think they are annoyed with me, this is what I order:
Mushrooms "Lots of it please, but not too chunky looking"
Bacon bits (optional depends on mood) "Not too much please. Have a little sprinkled here and there."
A lot of sauce "But please remove the tomato chunks.."
Cheese "Not too much but just enough, please cover the entire pizza with cheese no spaces please"
Well done "Please leave my pizza in an extra 5-8 minutes after it's ready. But don't burn the crust, also if you can please flatten the crust i dont like it chunky"

I always end it with a nice smile and a mini tip ($1 LOL..)

Some people get very annoyed by this.. but hey im a paying customer. And well I think i have every right to get what I want, no? I also refuse to drink Orange juice if it has pulp in it. refuse to eat anything that touches sea food or in its vicinity,

posted December 09, 2011 08:53 AM            

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posted December 09, 2011 09:10 AM            

And I hope that's a dollar up tip, not just a dollar tip.

posted December 09, 2011 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Have you ever had a job in the food service industry? Do you think that the people you interact with see any benefit to you coming into their work and annoying the f*ck out of them? They more than likely don't own the store. And in this economy, they probably don't have very many options for places to work. Being rude to people who serve you food isn't something to brag about.

And I hope that's a dollar up tip, not just a dollar tip.

Anyway, pickiness is generally Virgo.

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posted December 09, 2011 11:45 AM            

So yeah, I sympathize with food pickiness. In my experience Virgo placements are the common denominator.

But I also have to say, I've worked on the other side as a waitress in a restaurant. As picky as I am, I also know that some requests are just not reasonable for me to make. Salad dressing on the side? Reasonable. Toppings taken off a burger or sandwich? Reasonable. Meat cooked a little longer than normal? Reasonable. But then you get stuff like this, from the site Not Always Right:

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Customer: “I’ll take the southwestern burger, but absolutely no mushrooms. I’m allergic to mushrooms.”

(I [the waitress] go back to the kitchen to let the cook know of the allergy. This means they have to clean every cooking utensil and grill that may have touched a mushroom. After stopping service for ten minutes to clean, the cook lets me know of some complications.)

Me: “Ma’am, we’ve removed all allergens from the cooking area but the cook has let me know that the bun for your burger is toasted on the same toaster as the mushroom focaccia and can’t be cleaned. We can grill it on the grill for you instead?”

Customer: “That’s fine. No mushrooms. I’m allergic.”

(I return to the kitchen, and the cook is meticulously going through our ingredients to make sure no other issues arise. He finds
another.)

Me: “Ma’am, sorry to bother you again. But the salsa on your burger doesn’t list all of the ingredients so better safe than sorry; we didn’t put the salsa on the burger.”

Customer: “Why not? I want the salsa!”

Me: “But it probably has chopped mushrooms.”

Customer: “I don’t care. I’m not really allergic. I just really don’t like them.”

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Yeah, so basically if the whole kitchen has to stop to accommodate your order, unless you have a valid medical issue, you're inconveniencing not only the staff but other paying customers as well, because then they have to wait longer for their order.

(lindisfarne, just to be clear, I'm not suggesting this is the case with your requests because I don't know how it works at the pizza place you're describing in your example. I'm speaking generally. I agree the example of the forgotten cheese would annoy me too.)

My two Virgo aunts are pretty picky, but don't like to make the servers' and cooks' lives difficult. They would either pick off the parts they don't like, order something different that they can eat, or go to another restaurant. Or, cook it themselves if push comes to shove.

So I think there are actually two issues going on here. One is a person's actual level of pickiness about food. The other issue is how much a person feels justified in asking another person to accommodate their pickiness, which I think gets into natal placements that would influence issues of power, control, and tolerance for human error.

For some people it's about money and investment of resources. lindisfarne, you mentioned that you are a paying customer. Am I correct in recalling that you have Saturn on the Asc (or in the first house)? Perhaps this influences your expectations surrounding the things you pay for. Question: if you were not a paying customer - let's say a loved one cooked a meal for you as a free treat - would you have the same pickiness about the chicken and potatoes being up to your "artsy" standards of appearance or would you be more likely to cut them slack? I'm just curious if the investment of your personal money, or a personal relationship with the person who cooked for you, would make any difference.

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If you're not overly picky, or if you are picky but polite and pleasant about it, I've found that they are usually more willing to work with you and are more accommodating--not always, but often.

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This is so true. If you're the server, it makes a world of difference whether a customer has an attitude of "Excuse me, I really prefer X, is that possible?" versus a customer who's like "DO MY BIDDING, SLAVE."

Plus, anyone who has worked as a waiter will tell you that there are some customers who intentionally look for problems because they want an excuse not to tip you. If a customer gets in your face because "my salt shaker is a teeny-tiny bit less than totally full!" you pretty much know it's going to be downhill from there. I used to cut my losses and slack off on these tables because I knew they were going to give me a hard time no matter what.

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PPS: That's the reason I am SO amused by people who serve at Starbucks! They have like a MILLION and ONE questions about my coffee order, always! I just tell them to RELAX and make some coffee the way it is usually done (or as listed on their menu!)!!

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Lol, I know. It's like a multiple choice test sometimes to order a cup of coffee. But I have to tell you, both my sister and I have worked customer service (at restaurants, and she also worked at an electronics store). 9 out of 10 times, when the person behind the counter asks you a bunch of weird little questions, it's because not asking those questions has gotten them in trouble with some jerk customers.

For example, whipped cream on your coffee. In most coffee shops, that's an extra. But I guarantee there are people who forget to ask for it and then come up to the barista going "I DIDN'T GET WHIPPED CREAM. WHERE'S MY WHIPPED CREAM. YOU SCREWED UP MY ORDER. CAN'T YOU IDIOTS DO ANYTHING RIGHT? I'M NEVER COMING BACK." Even though the customer is the one who failed to ask for it, they have no problem berating the service person for failing to read their mind.

Now whenever I see a waiter or service person who has to ask a laundry list of questions, I just feel bad for them and try to answer as politely as possible. Because I know they've probably learned the hard way that they need to ask about EVERYTHING or some fool will go nuts when things don't go exactly like they expect.

posted December 10, 2011 12:03 AM            

Besides, having worked in the service industry, I try not to make an underpaid worker's job harder. It sucks when you are doing really hard work, not getting paid enough, and then you have some jerk come in and tell you how to do your job as if they could do it better... (Virgo is the sign of the servant remember, so we empathize).

Honestly, when I see behavior like that (especially on a date), I tend to run for the hills because I know the guy I'm with will be super critical of me too. I know I have Virgo placements, but seriously... If you are going to act incredibly self-important and then be rude to someone who is just getting paid barely enough to live, chances are I probably will not want to be around you in the long run. (But that's me).

posted December 10, 2011 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Hi!

I have always wondered this.... pickiness. Thats something I am. I wouldn't change it for the world to be honest. Of course people can get impatient with me, but I believe if I am a paying customer you must prepare what I've asked for, done to my liking. Anything from picking out chicken It has to be the "perfect" piece LOL from the perfect looking potato. What I eat has to look... presentable (to my standards) if it looks odd looking in shape its hard for me to eat it. I pay attention to detail in an artsy way with my food... Im asking this because a woman called me rude and picky this evening. I went to this store I always go to every week to order pizza, and I think they are annoyed with me, this is what I order:
Mushrooms "Lots of it please, but not too chunky looking"
Bacon bits (optional depends on mood) "Not too much please. Have a little sprinkled here and there."
A lot of sauce "But please remove the tomato chunks.."
Cheese "Not too much but just enough, please cover the entire pizza with cheese no spaces please"
Well done "Please leave my pizza in an extra 5-8 minutes after it's ready. But don't burn the crust, also if you can please flatten the crust i dont like it chunky"

I always end it with a nice smile and a mini tip ($1 LOL..)

Some people get very annoyed by this.. but hey im a paying customer. And well I think i have every right to get what I want, no? I also refuse to drink Orange juice if it has pulp in it. refuse to eat anything that touches sea food or in its vicinity,

anyways are there specific placements that indicate a picky person, whether it'd be eating or dressing, anything? Are you guys picky too. Please tell me someone else here is picky with their food.

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I understand wanting things to your liking...but there's kinda a difference between that and what you just said. Like, you actually expect them to look over the size of the mushrooms and pick only ones to your liking to put on the pizza, and you have rules about how the sauce has to be...honestly, I can see why they're angry with you and I honestly think one dollar in a tip isn't enough for all that trouble.

When you order out at a restaurant or for delivery or whatever, yeah you can get things the way you want them, but they only mean that up to a point - ie, if you prefer your meat well done or something. If I were working at Pizza Hut or something and you called in an order like that, I'd say yes politely, hang up and immediately just make you a regular pizza with all the ingredients you want on it, but there's no way in hell that I'd pick over the mushrooms trying to find some a certain size to satisfy you - especially if I've been slaving my butt off there all day, and I'm required to have a certain amount of pizzas baked up by a certain time, or lose my job.

And people who work in food-service, have a definite problem with that type of thing and have probably expressed it by spitting in your food a few times.

posted December 10, 2011 08:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Virgo Venus is classic for this!

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I have Venus in Virgo and I'd never, neverrrr do that.

posted December 10, 2011 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I'm not rude to them. I'm polite, as long as they don't mess up my order. Very recently they "forgot" to put cheese on the pizza. I mean what the **** ? Sorry but how does that happen? No tip from me had to wait an extra 40 minutes for carelessness. Nope don't have any Virgo placements

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Honestly? If you gave your order like that then they probably forgot your cheese on purpose that time just to spite you.

posted December 10, 2011 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
Virgos often actually don't like p*issing people off. I know that kind of behavior is just inviting them to spit in my food.

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Do you know that movie "Waiting" with Ryan Reynolds? About workers at a restaurant?

posted December 10, 2011 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
I'm a Virgo with 3 Virgo placements (and Virgo Venus btw) and I am damn well not that picky. I'm picky about other things (movies, music, books, etc), but I will not tell a waiter the specific ingredients and how I want my food cooked. If I wanted something specific that was not on the menu like that, I'd just stay home. Geez... Virgos often actually don't like p*issing people off. I know that kind of behavior is just inviting them to spit in my food.

Besides, having worked in the service industry, I try not to make an underpaid worker's job harder. It sucks when you are doing really hard work, not getting paid enough, and then you have some jerk come in and tell you how to do your job as if they could do it better... (Virgo is the sign of the servant remember, so we empathize).

Honestly, when I see behavior like that (especially on a date), I tend to run for the hills because I know the guy I'm with will be super critical of me too. I know I have Virgo placements, but seriously... If you are going to act incredibly self-important and then be rude to someone who is just getting paid barely enough to live, chances are I probably will not want to be around you in the long run. (But that's me).

Honestly, I've mostly seen that kind of behavior in cardinal signs (except for Libra). Many members of the cardinal signs think everyone has to wait on them. Though, I did know a Sagittarius who did the same thing, but only because he had also been a chef at one time and so he was particular (and competitive) about the food he ate.

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*clapping*

THAAAANK you, from another Venus in Virgo.

posted December 10, 2011 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
(Virgo is the sign of the servant remember, so we empathize).

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Ah! I think this is a GREAT point.

Plus I have a touch of classic Virgo hypochondria/germophobia, so I don't like people touching my food more than absolutely necessary.

I attribute my own pickiness about food to my Virgo rising. But "I don't like the look/taste/texture of something" is a different issue from someone who makes lots of demands of waitstaff/cooks. Like I mentioned, I hate the feel of raisins in a cookie or muffin. But I would never dream of telling the waitstaff "Pick out all the raisins for me." I'd do it myself.

posted December 10, 2011 02:46 PM            

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Do you know that movie "Waiting" with Ryan Reynolds? About workers at a restaurant?

If so, I think you know which scene I almost posted....

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Hahahaha... Yeah, I know which scene you're talking about. So disgusting. If anything, Virgos would really be wary of p*ssing off wait staff like that, since many of them (not me in particular) are hypochondriacs.

posted December 10, 2011 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:
I attribute pickiness and finicky behaviour to not just Virgo sun alone - but especially to the moon in Virgo. Moon will also rule habits and reactions. In a mutable sign it will I think express finicky behaviour.

I think a stellium in mutable signs like Pisces or Gemini, Virgo will be picky. Not so much Sagittarius. Mutables in high doses buzz with energy and even nerves - and that can make someone sometimes high strung and very particular.

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if a food has one little particle that looks unappealing it's not making it's way into my mouth.

posted December 10, 2011 06:11 PM            

My fiance is super 'picky' and he's an Aqua stellium in the 9th house with a lot of Taurus too. Venus Capricorn. He's one of the most boring eaters I've ever met. I don't know if it's pickiness or just fixedness because he will not take chances with some foods, EVER. Tomatoes, ok, but no seeds. No sushi or sashimi, no oysters or clams or mussels but clam chowder and shrimp are ok (shrimp HAS to be peeled)....no brie or runny cheeses, only hard cheese...GAH, and it goes on and on (I eat everything pretty much, I was raised eating raw fish and exotic food and very little puts me off).

posted December 10, 2011 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:
Hmmm, I am not sure, maybe depending on aspects or the house? My father is a Pisces moon and has always loved his highly textured food and eats with abandon, though he's still very set in his ways about what he likes and hates for foods. All I know is Virgo moons I've seen are super picky about like everything lol

My fiance is super 'picky' and he's an Aqua stellium in the 9th house with a lot of Taurus too. Venus Capricorn. He's one of the most boring eaters I've ever met. I don't know if it's pickiness or just fixedness because he will not take chances with some foods, EVER. Tomatoes, ok, but no seeds. No sushi or sashimi, no oysters or clams or mussels but clam chowder and shrimp are ok (shrimp HAS to be peeled)....no brie or runny cheeses, only hard cheese...GAH, and it goes on and on (I eat everything pretty much, I was raised eating raw fish and exotic food and very little puts me off).

So I guess my point is , do you think it's pickiness or fixedness??

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