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Topic: Mars in Aries
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Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 02:23 AM
I recently met a guy who seemed really cool. We hit it off quite well and spent several hours just talking and enjoying each other. On the most recent occasion, the conversation moved to my former profession. He expressed that he was very interested in the subject so I told him about my experiences and even gave him some pointers on how he could get started.Oddly enough, the conversation started getting a little aggressive. The topic of Aries came up and he started interacting with me in a very Martian way. He started telling me stories about his experiences and I started noticing his aggression was actually a big blockage in his capacity for grasping some of the fundamental skills regarding the topic. As I offered more information about my experiences he started telling me I wasn't understanding where he was coming from. The truth was, I was a professional for several years and I knew exactly where he was coming from, a place of dominance and aggression. Knowing you don't just accuse random people of not grasping a topic that they are obviously not grasping, I asked if I could make a suggestion and with his permission proceeded to tell him his Mars energy was one of the less likely energies to grasp the topic. I was then going explain that the topic requires receptivity and being overly Mars was creating a deficit in his beautiful capacity for receptivity. I was then going to suggest other capacities in his chart which would result in a deep and complete understanding of the topic... But before i could do that he completely exploded. How could I say that about his Mars? He would never suggest some part of my chart was not capable of something. He was severely offended and at this point he was blowing up over something I didn't even say. It was 6am by this time and I realized the whole topic wasn't worth fighting over so I tried to diffuse the situation. I apologized for the misunderstanding, explained what the intent of what my full message would have been, and suggested we move on to another topic. He had asked earlier if I would suggest he find a teacher, so I said "Maybe we should move on then. you are going to learn your experiences and in all honesty whatever I say at 6am is not going to have any validity. My suggestion is to find a teacher. They will kick your ass where it is needed =)" Apparently that was the super wrong thing to say, along with telling him his Mars was a mutant (which never actually happened), because he left the conversation and blocked me. Sooooo.... I'm a Sag. I totally get that when I go off about something I can get preachy, especially on topics that I am well educated in. I am not in the business of belittling people or telling people they are defective. It's not actually in my nature to tell people they CAN"T do things, I'm more about helping to empower people achieve their goals. Is this kind of jumping to conclusions and freaking out thing something other Mars in Aries people notice? If not, could you offer suggestions on what I could have done better to interact with a Mars in Aries person?
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 2201 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:01 AM
Where's your Mars? Also, are you aware that Mars in Virgo currently squares the lunar eclipse? This energy has been building for a while. I forget your rising, so I don't know the houses that are involved in your chart. My point is try to stay away from Mars people around this eclipse if you can help it. Mars is in my 7th squaring this eclipse and Mars will be staying for 8 months in Virgo and my 7th house so I am very well aware of toning down my preachy Sag voice. (Well, Neptune squaring my Sun has almost totally eclipsed my Sag voice but you know what I mean!... ) Mars in Aries ppl are so volatile esp if they have no earth to ground them in their chart. I normally love Aries/Mars energy but I have this square with my Venus in Scorpio and Moon in Taurus which means I do not enjoy their "touchiness". My Mars is in Aqua so I want to talk things out, and if we disagree I want us to agree to disagree (that's also my Jup in Libra = fairness and all points of view considered always). In other words, a lot depends on 1) where YOU have your Mars and how it relates in your chart esp. with your Sag Sun and 2) whether HE has any grounding/earth elements to balance off his Mars-iness. You did nothing wrong from where I stand. With some people, try as we might, we just can't get along the way we wish we could.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 992 From: dumont, CO Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:14 AM
What are his mars aspects? does he have venus square mars? or sun square moon?He sounds like he is very sensitive to any kind of feedback and I have only met one mars in aries and he doesnt get like that......his impatient but fights with him never get out of hand and he listens and works things out. Also if you see him as an equal and talk to him like an adult he handles constructive criticism well. He does have aqua sun and cap rising so that helps him stay cool and keeps his mars in aries in check. I am thinking if he doesn't handle his mars energy well it has more to do with hard aspects to mars and his sensitivity to criticism could be sun square moon or maybe the sign his moon is in. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10: Where's your Mars? Also, are you aware that Mars in Virgo currently squares the lunar eclipse? This energy has been building for a while. I forget your rising, so I don't know the houses that are involved in your chart. My point is try to stay away from Mars people around this eclipse if you can help it. Mars is in my 7th squaring this eclipse and Mars will be staying for 8 months in Virgo and my 7th house so I am very well aware of toning down my preachy Sag voice. (Well, Neptune squaring my Sun has almost totally eclipsed my Sag voice but you know what I mean!... ) Mars in Aries ppl are so volatile esp if they have no earth to ground them in their chart. I normally love Aries/Mars energy but I have this square with my Venus in Scorpio and Moon in Taurus which means I do not enjoy their "touchiness". My Mars is in Aqua so I want to talk things out, and if we disagree I want us to agree to disagree (that's also my Jup in Libra = fairness and all points of view considered always). In other words, a lot depends on 1) where YOU have your Mars and how it relates in your chart esp. with your Sag Sun and 2) whether HE has any grounding/earth elements to balance off his Mars-iness. You did nothing wrong from where I stand. With some people, try as we might, we just can't get along the way we wish we could.
Thanks for all the input. I'm Sun Sag 11/Neptune Sag 15 (both opposed the current Moon) Mars Leo 11 Asc Aries Also Moon Virgo 11 Saturn Virgo 00 Mercury Cap 02 For a few months now people have blown up into fights based on misunderstanding something I've said. I am chalking that up to Pluto being on my Mercury though and Mercury having especially been retrograde recently. As for him, his Sun is conjunct my Moon and aside from his rising, I am not sure of any other earth. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: What are his mars aspects? does he have venus square mars? or sun square moon?He sounds like he is very sensitive to any kind of feedback and I have only met one mars in aries and he doesnt get like that......his impatient but fights with him never get out of hand and he listens and works things out. Also if you see him as an equal and talk to him like an adult he handles constructive criticism well. I am thinking if he doesn't handle his mars energy well it has more to do with hard aspects to mars and his sensitivity to criticism could be sun square moon or maybe the sign his moon is in.
Interesting, his Venus is in Cancer, but I am not positive if it makes an aspect to his Mars. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:22 AM
Signs aside, people misunderstand intentions quite a bit during Mercury Rx. With the coming lunar eclipse and Uranus going back into direct (in Aries, nonetheless), I can see how all that energy is especially frustrating with your chart alone. Uranus is square your Mercury, right now.Also, people are just so ******* touchy nowadays anyway. Not really sure what it is. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:23 AM
quote: Mercury square Uranus This is a time when you can have flashes of insight, but you also tend to be scatterbrained. Your ideas and communications may not be well-received--perhaps others think they are too hair-brained, inconsistent, or simply not traditional enough. Your mind is neither peaceful nor harmonious under this influence, and irritable tempers, sarcastic speech, and dogmatism are negative expressions of this energy, whether you are meeting these things in others or expressing them yourself. It's a challenge to deal with routine matters or monotonous tasks under this influence. Tasks may be left undone or interrupted. This is not a good time to be understood, so you may want to hold off presenting your ideas for the time being.
http://cafeastrology.com/mercurytransits.html IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 992 From: dumont, CO Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:26 AM
somebody else in this forum mentioned that she had an ex with venus in cancer and mars in aries and that the guy still holds a grudge against her 5 years later for her breaking up with him in highschool even though a few months later he started dating a close friend of her. His venus in cancer could be why he is sensitive to criticism and I think that cancer doesn't let go easily so even though aries gets angry and forgets quickly the venus in cancer will not forget and hold onto the anger that mars in aries experienced is my theory. But I am willing to bet that his venus in cancer does square his mars in aries and this would explain how immaturely he handles feedback and his intense reaction. Venus square mars needs to learn to assert himself/herself constructively and deal with setbacks and frustrations without it taking over them. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 992 From: dumont, CO Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:30 AM
Venus square mars until they learn to deal with the energy of this square results in adult temper tantrums. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by ElizabethO: [QUOTE]Mercury square Uranus This is a time when you can have flashes of insight, but you also tend to be scatterbrained. Your ideas and communications may not be well-received--perhaps others think they are too hair-brained, inconsistent, or simply not traditional enough. Your mind is neither peaceful nor harmonious under this influence, and irritable tempers, sarcastic speech, and dogmatism are negative expressions of this energy, whether you are meeting these things in others or expressing them yourself. It's a challenge to deal with routine matters or monotonous tasks under this influence. Tasks may be left undone or interrupted. This is not a good time to be understood, so you may want to hold off presenting your ideas for the time being.
http://cafeastrology.com/mercurytransits.html [/QUOTE]HAha wow, this describes exactly what I have been feeling. God Uranus square Mercury SUCKS, I seriously was afraid I was becoming stupid and incoherent as I got older. Note to self be sure to celebrate the fact that Pluto conjunct Mercury/Uranus Square Mercury will never happen again in your lifetime HAHa. What a weird lifetime, In my life Pluto has conjoined my NN, DSC, Uranus, Venus, Ceres, Sun, Neptune, and Mercury. I still have MC and PofF to look forward to (possibly SN, Eris, ASC, and Chiron... depending on how long I live lol). It's possible I chose this lifetime to learn about spontaneous combustion. IP: Logged |
psytaurus Knowflake Posts: 42 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:49 AM
I don't think you should start with your conclusion with an Aries Mars/Mercury because in my experience they're not going to listen to what you were going to say afterwards especially if it's something they perceive as an attack.I think this is how you should've started: quote: I was then going explain that the topic requires receptivity and being overly Mars was creating a deficit in his beautiful capacity for receptivity. I was then going to suggest other capacities in his chart which would result in a deep and complete understanding of the topic...
And then you could've said this: quote: tell him his Mars energy was one of the less likely energies to grasp the topic.
They would probably still be fuming, but I think it will less intense and they would know where you're coming from. They will see your point. Eventually. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: somebody else in this forum mentioned that she had an ex with venus in cancer and mars in aries and that the guy still holds a grudge against her 5 years later for her breaking up with him in highschool even though a few months later he started dating a close friend of her. His venus in cancer could be why he is sensitive to criticism and I think that cancer doesn't let go easily so even though aries gets angry and forgets quickly the venus in cancer will not forget and hold onto the anger that mars in aries experienced is my theory. But I am willing to bet that his venus in cancer does square his mars in aries and this would explain how immaturely he handles feedback and his intense reaction. Venus square mars needs to learn to assert himself/herself constructively and deal with setbacks and frustrations without it taking over them.
Fortunately there were a lot of glaring negatives about this guy, because I have a difficult time knowing when to stop giving people the benefit of the doubt. My Sun may be in Sag and part of a Grand Fire Trine, but it's also conjunct Neptune, lives in the 8th house with Scorpio on the cusp, and is ruled by Jupiter in Cancer. My Sun feels like a Grand Water Trine on its own. His freak out was sort of a relief for me, because it was an indicator that my sense to shut things down was on the right track. If he holds a grudge, that helps me not have to deal with accepting an apology from him and getting right back into it again lol. I must admit, being a Water Venus (Scorpio)/Fire Mars (Leo) also, I thought we would get along better, I guess I'm fortunate my Venus and Mars are about 20 degrees away from squaring. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 2201 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Xiiro: Thanks for all the input.I'm Sun Sag 11/Neptune Sag 15 (both opposed the current Moon) Mars Leo 11 Asc Aries Also Moon Virgo 11 Saturn Virgo 00 Mercury Cap 02 For a few months now people have blown up into fights based on misunderstanding something I've said. I am chalking that up to Pluto being on my Mercury though and Mercury having especially been retrograde recently. As for him, his Sun is conjunct my Moon and aside from his rising, I am not sure of any other earth.
Yes, Merc rx AND lunar eclipse squaring Mars AND Uranus/Jup about to turn direct there is high potential for things going sour communication-wise. I personally had to postpone a couple of meetings for this reason. BTW, is your Moon at 11d Virgo or did you mean 11th house. If it's close to T Mars in Virgo squaring this lunar eclipse, it's another reason you need to be careful with people these days! Basically your Moon will get hurt if these dudes have an Aries Mars. Sun/Nept opposite the eclipse Moon is of course another factor as you know. So again nothing wrong with you. The build-up of the approaching lunar eclipse can really mess up things. Because it's an eclipse and not just another full moon, it could stay this way for a while (up to 6mo's they say) but at least the separating energy is easier to handle! IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 04:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by psytaurus: I don't think you should start with your conclusion with an Aries Mars/Mercury because in my experience they're not going to listen to what you were going to say afterwards especially if it's something they perceive as an attack.I think this is how you should've started: They would probably still be fuming, but I think it will less intense and they would know where you're coming from. They will see your point. Eventually.
You're right, that would probably have been the best way to approach anyone. Having an earth Mercury is difficult, especially when interacting with people who have quick reactions. I often find my self spitting out stuff just to stay at the pace of the conversation. Then hours later I kick my self over all the things I could have said which would have resulted in much more practical communication. I even tried to explain that there is a big space between what happens in my head and what comes out of my mouth, but it was too late by then LOL. I like your suggestion. I know if I train my mind to think that way, communication will go a lot more smoothly. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 05:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10: Yes, Merc rx AND lunar eclipse squaring Mars AND Uranus/Jup about to turn direct there is high potential for things going sour communication-wise. I personally had to postpone a couple of meetings for this reason. BTW, is your Moon at 11d Virgo or did you mean 11th house. If it's close to T Mars in Virgo squaring this lunar eclipse, it's another reason you need to be careful with people these days! Basically your Moon will get hurt if these dudes have an Aries Mars. Sun/Nept opposite the eclipse Moon is of course another factor as you know. So again nothing wrong with you. The build-up of the approaching lunar eclipse can really mess up things. Because it's an eclipse and not just another full moon, it could stay this way for a while (up to 6mo's they say) but at least the separating energy is easier to handle!
That definitely makes sense... hmmm. My Moon is 11 degrees Virgo (exactly square Sun), so yeah. IP: Logged |
Frozen Queen Moderator Posts: 394 From: 11th Dimension Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 12, 2011 03:44 AM
EDIT: Re-read it again and it's making me smile now because even I jumped the gun so to speak (Aries Mars here, my bad) You do realise my experienced friend that he only wanted to talk to you so you could validate his own opinions and not "educate" him even though you knew more than him? ------------------ Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways. ♥ IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 885 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 04:12 AM
Mars in Aries.. please run. Do what's best for your future, ok?IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 885 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 04:13 AM
Typical Aries ESP in mars to allow their innate aggression to prevent them from grasping concepts abstract or not. They are so entertaining when they get like this.You should def plan your escape. Or, try to get him into the bedroom. See if this innate aggression is really there IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 885 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 04:16 AM
Typical MARS/Aries to catastrophize a very simple/less threatening aspect and blow it way out of proportion. You hurt his ego unintentionally this is how they get I swear it's the most terrifying/hilarious things to watch. I wish I was there op to see this.Obviously he must not be capable of having simplistic conversations without blowing it out of proportion... hmmmmm IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 04:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Frozen Queen: EDIT: Re-read it again and it's making me smile now because even I jumped the gun so to speak (Aries Mars here, my bad) You do realise my experienced friend that he only wanted to talk to you so you could validate his own opinions and not "educate" him even though you knew more than him?
I didn't know, he approached me with a very convincing interest in learning about it. I have a lot of experience with Venus in Aries and sort of expected it to be similar. I must admit Mars in Aries caught me off guard. I'm Mars in Leo (in the decan and duad of Sag), I respect people's knowledge and experience, because I expect the same courtesy in return. My issue however had less to do with him taking or ignoring my advise, and more to do with him ending interactions with me based on a complete misunderstanding. Especially after I apologized for the poor communication and offered further explanation of my intentions. There were plenty of things he said and did which I would regularly consider quite rude, condescending, or inappropriate. I recognized my reaction as a personal interpretation of something which could possibly be misunderstood and set it aside in an attempt to gain a deeper understanding of him. Even in his reaction, I have no idea how his day was, or what personal issues he has. I still believe there could be valid reasons for his reaction (even if I wasn't the one who deserved the wrath). That's why I mentioned that I was happy his Venus in Cancer may hold a grudge, because I have little interest in another conversation like that if he is prone to those types of reactions. I connect with people deeply and don't appreciate being written off as a theme in my relationships with people. LOL Thank you for shining light on that aspect of Aries for me, I will make a note to be more courteous of that flavor to Mars in Aries nature. =) IP: Logged |
lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 885 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 04:38 AM
Op, anytime this happens apologize to him and say you are wrong and he is right. He will appreciate it a lot. That's the only way to win with an Aries unless you enjoy p*ssing them off which is an activity for me at times. So if you ever said/done something to evoke their condescending uppityness, apologize and sound convincing. They like a challenge/combat so yaIP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 441 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 04:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by lindisfarne: Op, anytime this happens apologize to him and say you are wrong and he is right. He will appreciate it a lot. That's the only way to win with an Aries unless you enjoy p*ssing them off which is an activity for me at times. So if you ever said/done something to evoke their condescending uppityness, apologize and sound convincing. They like a challenge/combat so ya
Ooooo I dunno if I can do that. My Mars is in Leo and exactly trine Sun in Sag, I don't do the whole, "You're right I'm wrong" thing unless 1). They ARE right and I'm wrong. Or 2). I love them a lot and the fight is about something stupid. I am definitely prone to Leonine pride when it comes to preening others.... I'm the Lion... Preen me damn!t. HEhe IP: Logged | |