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lilithpluto
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posted December 10, 2011 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings!

I am learning about the lilith aspects and starting by examining how it works in my chart. Really appreciate any insights from anyon.

My mars 10'55 conjunct lilith 12'47 in the first house. What does it mean? How will it affect how people see me?

And additional note is that my pluto is also at 19'13.. so it is difficult to know if the "appearance" (st house) is due to Lilith or Pluto. Anyone can explain the difference between Pluto and Lilith? They kinda seem similar.

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posted December 11, 2011 06:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My impression of Mars-Lilith in the 1st is that you aren't afraid of confronting taboos and it is obvious to the world. Of course, the sign that they occupy would factor in as well. You probably appear to radiate energy and with Pluto in the 1st as well, you have an intense, piercing gaze.

You attack and probe the surface to get at what's underneath. You're not afraid to dig up the truth, no matter how disturbing, and show it to the world.

You might rub most people the wrong way as a result.

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posted December 11, 2011 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2011 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2011 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2011 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I have been getting into trouble lately at work because I am too direct, tactless and I guess I offend people unintentionally"

Perfect description of Mars-BML in 1st house imo.

BML doesn´t "do" compromises, but probes deep to dig out that "inner truth", and Mars can be a bit too direct in expressing it.

Oh and I think there might be a strong sexual energy at play, too, depending on the sign it is in of course.

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posted December 11, 2011 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:

This I'm interested to know if that is hw i appear to others since mars-pluto-lilith in 1st house.. cos I'm very prim n proper to acquitamces, no alcohol, no drugs no clubbing, not much socializing. The only people who knows that side of me is this one man I am crazy abt n who i shared everything i am with. other than him, i doubt anyone know I'm very sexual, experimemtal (with him only).. blush. Nobody will know unless you r refering to vibe n aura that i might give off.



Pluto is good at hiding these things, will not be overly overt about them, but it is some kind of vibe people might still notice.


I am going to look for a good article on BML

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posted December 11, 2011 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please do share if you manage to find good articles !

Also, can you share with me what it means to hv my mars-pluto-lilith conjunct another'
s venus-pluto-lilith conjunction in lilith?

Is this rship manipulative, controlling as pluto-lilith together doesn't really strike off as fairytale romance...

Also, what abt venus-lilith-pluto in natal chart means if the conjunction is tight n in 5th house?


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posted December 11, 2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.heliastar.com/triplegoddess.html


"Black Moon is an energy vortex, an ancient pathway into incarnation and sword of truth. Its orbital cycle of eight years, ten months, coordinates with the Moonıs nodal cycles. Black Moon has deep instinctive intuition, will and desire power that can weave matter out of ether. Perhaps that why she comes in dreams, when our bodies and rational minds are asleep. Our thoughts are then turned off and she can whisper her secrets in images and even, perhaps, transport us to other realms. She is a weaver of the etheric and the physical, like the warp and woof of the loom. She weaves together the collective and the personal, as the myth becomes our experience to regenerate."

" Black Moon Lilith can have a strong impact of relationship dynamics. Relationships that involve Lilith energy are initiatory, soul-to-soul meetings that open into a deeper center where personal and impersonal experience merge. Can we trust this energy that is unraveling our edges, tapping into such a deep well? Can we trust ourselves?

The Black Moon point is where we are lured into the mystery. She insists that we feel through, let go, surrender to something essential and transparent in us that is primary, the bedrock beneath the shifting sands, the passion of the soul. It is a corridor into the heart through which we are lured to discover our deepest truth, the longings and yearnings of our souls and thereby leading us to the deeper truth within our heart, the longings and yearnings of our souls.

In Unremembered Country, Susan Griffin beautifully articulates the essence of this core energy:
As I go into the Earth, she pierces my heart. As I penetrate further, she unveils me. When I have reached her center, I am weeping openly. I have known her all my life, yet she reveals stories to me, and these stories are revelations and I am transformed. Each time I go to her I am born like this. Her renewal washes over me endlessly, her wounds caress me; I become aware of all that has come between us, of the noise between us, the blindness, of something sleeping between us. Now my body reaches out to her.

Black Moon symbolizes a central motivating factor that is subtle, unseen but felt. This Lilith taps into an urgent desire of the soul that seeks dramatization in life and will brook no denial. In a time such as ours of potent change, the Black Moon, with its underlying creative life force and spiritual impulse, illumines the inner pathway with the most heart for each seeker of Truth and Love."


for me she relates to the "dark side of the Moon", the raw, instinctual, undomestified side of us. Uncompromising, in her quest for her "soul`s truth".
There is something very archaic about her, as she is more instinctual than intellectual.

But that doesn`t have to be on public display, it is more a kind of "emotional background", something that is unspoken maybe.


EDIT:
BTW do not mistake her for the asteroid LILITH, I believe there might be different interpretations for each of these.


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posted December 11, 2011 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the relationship that you mentioned sounds to me as being absolutely transformative and kathartic in sexual terms.

Both have Pluto-Lilith, one gives Mars, the other Venus. Seems like Key and lock, in eliciting a stark raw feeling inside, very passionate, emotionally and sexually (psychologically) feeling compeltely naked.


But maybe the pull is too strong, too absolute, too uncompromising, and if one or both cannot deal with the depth of intimacy (the kind where you cannot hide anything from the other, and that is not really all that comforting most of the time), then it could turn to animosity and hostility in an attempt to fend off these raw emotional impact, that really hits you at the deepest core inside.

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