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lindisfarne
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posted December 10, 2011 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!

What placements would tell about potential restlessness? Or is it relative to age? I have a ton of mental energy, constantly buzzing... it's not easy for me to stay on one topic it feels like I have 6 million different subjects and topics all in one and I've gotta set them free in as little time as I have. (may explain the on going topics, sorry guys!) but this also effects my sleep. I rarely sleep too much mental energy.

I'm curious if you could also find out if someone has ADHD in their birth chart??

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posted December 10, 2011 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haz dat. Its no fun especially when it comes to school. I would imagine it has to do with a lot of nervous energy. I have strong mercury and saturn in my chart. Both on these planets are known for their nervous energy.

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posted December 10, 2011 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I haz dat. Its no fun especially when it comes to school. I would imagine it has to do with a lot of nervous energy. I have strong mercury and saturn in my chart. Both on these planets are known for their nervous energy.

Yessss. I think we need to make EXTRa effort in school. Lots of my teachers expressed their disappointment in me, told me I was impressively intelligent unfortunately I couldn't learn to cope with my mental restlessness so I could rarely focus... forget about studying! During exams all I needed one 30 minutes and I could get the entire subject. I can't sit still either when focussing it's SOO difficult thank god someone else has this placement

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posted December 10, 2011 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lmaoooo

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posted December 10, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's usually gem placements.

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posted December 10, 2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Yessss. I think we need to make EXTRa effort in school. Lots of my teachers expressed their disappointment in me, told me I was impressively intelligent unfortunately I couldn't learn to cope with my mental restlessness so I could rarely focus... forget about studying! During exams all I needed one 30 minutes and I could get the entire subject. I can't sit still either when focussing it's SOO difficult thank god someone else has this placement

I know what you mean. I'm terrible at math because I can't concentrate in class. I end up doodling all over my papers :P I do well in english and even languages. Anything that envolves ************ I excel in. I'm so happy I'm pursuing more creative ventures that do not envolve academics

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posted December 10, 2011 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had no idea Saturn related to nervous energy. How so?

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posted December 10, 2011 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
lmaoooo

What is so funny please share

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posted December 10, 2011 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I had no idea Saturn related to nervous energy. How so?

I read this somewhere. The moon is lymphatic, Venus is sanguine and lymphatic. Jupiter is sanguine. The sun in bilious, Mars is bilious. Mercury is nervous, saturn is nervous, Pluto is billious and nervous ( I think, or one of those).

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posted December 10, 2011 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
It's usually gem placements.

I dont have gemini in my planets though...

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posted December 10, 2011 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah but you have sun conjunct mercury lol. And mercury conjunct asc. Gives a sort of similar effect. It's like how sun conjunct venus gives a libran persona.

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posted December 10, 2011 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You also have jupiter square mars =) lol so lots of energy.

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posted December 10, 2011 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imo nervous energy is a Uranus + Mercury thing (and related signatures). Uranus electrifies everything it touches therefore the repeating signatures that are in your chart could denote an overstimulated nervous system.

The signature is evident in that T-square of Mars in a fire house, opposite Uranus both square Jupiter. The nervous signature repeats with Mercury in Aquarius conjunct sun, both trined by Jupiter, which amplifies anything it touches.

You also have a distinct lack of earth in your chart (few earth planets, empty earth houses), also Saturn doesn't make any strong aspects to any of your personal planets - earth would be a grounding/stabilising force.

Being out in nature, doing yoga or grounding meditations could help you manage your energy. Crystals such as black tourmaline, heamatite, galena are very grounding. I used to put a heamatite crystal in my bra, it really helped when I was feeling spacey.

Also ensure that the electrical items (especially wifi) are turned off in your sleeping space.

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posted December 10, 2011 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The school believed my son was ADHD because he was so jittery and unfocused.. And TALKS ALOT... never ever stops talking...

He has
Taurus Venus/Mercury in H10
Gem Mars,Saturn,NN also in H10
packed H10 house...
Plus he's a Leo asc, so he wants the attention and he's LOUD!! lol

But when I spoke to a doctor he observed him, and said he didnt have it...
He said if you want to know if someone is ADHD he said give them a cup (fresh) not bottle cup of coffee...
He said coffee would do the opposite for someone with ADHD, they would mellow out and focus better...

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posted December 10, 2011 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
Imo nervous energy is a Uranus + Mercury thing (and related signatures). Uranus electrifies everything it touches therefore the repeating signatures that are in your chart could denote an overstimulated nervous system.

The signature is evident in that T-square of Mars in a fire house, opposite Uranus both square Jupiter. The nervous signature repeats with Mercury in Aquarius conjunct sun, both trined by Jupiter, which amplifies anything it touches.

You also have a distinct lack of earth in your chart (few earth planets, empty earth houses), also Saturn doesn't make any strong aspects to any of your personal planets - earth would be a grounding/stabilising force.

Being out in nature, doing yoga or grounding meditations could help you manage your energy. Crystals such as black tourmaline, heamatite, galena are very grounding. I used to put a heamatite crystal in my bra, it really helped when I was feeling spacey.

Also ensure that the electrical items (especially wifi) are turned off in your sleeping space.



but i have uranus in capricorn and Neptune? What are earth houses? LOL. I also keep all those things on. Always listening to music whilst asleep...

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posted December 10, 2011 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
The school believed my son was ADHD because he was so jittery and unfocused.. And TALKS ALOT... never ever stops talking...

He has
Taurus Venus/Mercury in H10
Gem Mars,Saturn,NN also in H10
packed H10 house...
Plus he's a Leo asc, so he wants the attention and he's LOUD!! lol

But when I spoke to a doctor he observed him, and said he didnt have it...
He said if you want to know if someone is ADHD he said give them a cup (fresh) not bottle cup of coffee...
He said coffee would do the opposite for someone with ADHD, they would mellow out and focus better...


Interesting because I always become sleepy and mellowed out if i drink any coffee/caffeinated foods i always wondered wtf people drank coffee for because it made me TIRED/mellow


Lucky you didn't put him on any medication

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posted December 10, 2011 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im super restless. my moons in virgo and i have a huge 7 planet t-sqaure in my 3rd, 6th, and 9th house so its all very mental. my uranus is very closely sqaured my merc/sun/mars and thats suppose to be lots of tension. i also have jupiter sqauring my merc/sun/mars conjunction also and that contributes as well. plus ive heard that jupiter in the 3rd can cause mental restlessness. im dominant cardinal signs as well so i have a hard time focusing or staying on one project/subject, sometimes ill start like 4 things at once ha

i get nervous really easily and stomach upsets ha. when i was in kindergarten i was held back for "ADD" . but when i got into 2nd grade my teacher realized that i wasnt so much ADD but i was bored so he put me in G.A.T.E ( gifted and talented education) so that was great cause i was in that for years and i learned so much more. i get really restless and nervous if i have to wait around or sit for too long. when i worked infront of a computer i had so much nervous energy that i went slightly crazy, i really have to move around haha otherwise im constantly sweating from all the tension!!

i bet a lot of your restlesness is from your aqua, ive noticed too that pisces moon, similar to virgo moon is prone to restlessness and nervousness. when the moons in the first house ive heard there can be bowel problems due to worry. maybe your pluto in the 9th makes you restless too

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posted December 10, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 10, 2011 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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but i have uranus in capricorn and Neptune? What are earth houses? LOL. I also keep all those things on. Always listening to music whilst asleep...

Like I said earlier you have very few planets in Earth (2 imo is very few ), they are in Capricorn; but you also have a double dose of Piscean energy with that Uranus (Neptune conjunct Uranus in the 12th - Neptune's natural house), which in my opinion offsets the grounding effect. Neptune is the antithesis of Saturn. Saturn is concrete, grounding and stabilising where as Neptune is dissolving, solvent and nebulous.

Earth houses are the 2nd, 6th and 10th.


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posted December 10, 2011 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
The school believed my son was ADHD because he was so jittery and unfocused.. And TALKS ALOT... never ever stops talking...

He has
Taurus Venus/Mercury in H10
Gem Mars,Saturn,NN also in H10
packed H10 house...
Plus he's a Leo asc, so he wants the attention and he's LOUD!! lol

But when I spoke to a doctor he observed him, and said he didnt have it...
He said if you want to know if someone is ADHD he said give them a cup (fresh) not bottle cup of coffee...
He said coffee would do the opposite for someone with ADHD, they would mellow out and focus better...


My son has a packed 10th house too.

Gemini Mercury and Saturn conjunct the MC

Cancer Sun, Mars, Jupiter-the latter two conjunct

He was diagnosed with ADD a couple of years ago-when he was seven. He can focus just fine when it's something he's interested in but not so much when he's not interested.

He is a bit hyper and goes through stages where he has some pretty strange habits. Right now, we're at the tail end of a baby talk/strange noises phase. Before that it was twisting his shirt. Before that, and this was lovely, he would use his hand to push his tongue up. Yeah-fun.

We're doing straight behavorial therapy. If it's not something he outgrows,it'll be something he knows how to work with or around. Whatever gets him where he needs to go.

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posted December 11, 2011 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... a lot of Air leads to so much restlessness (Gemini for sure, then Aquarius, Libra the least), maybe a grand cross in mutable signs? I find Cancer moons to be supah restless, never stopping...

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posted December 11, 2011 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Hmm... a lot of Air leads to so much restlessness (Gemini for sure, then Aquarius, Libra the least), maybe a grand cross in mutable signs? I find Cancer moons to be supah restless, never stopping...

Whats the association with cancer and restlessness?

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posted December 11, 2011 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Whats the association with cancer and restlessness?

I would imagine that, since Cancer is the ocean among water signs, and tides are always changing, a moon there would be extremely restless. And it holds true for my Cancer mooners.

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posted December 11, 2011 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
[B]Hello!

What placements would tell about potential restlessness? Or is it relative to age? I have a ton of mental energy, constantly buzzing... it's not easy for me to stay on one topic it feels like I have 6 million different subjects and topics all in one and I've gotta set them free in as little time as I have. (may explain the on going topics, sorry guys!) but this also effects my sleep. I rarely sleep too much mental energy.


Someone who has Mercury square Saturn might have a learning disability or speech impediment. Although I've been told the orb is too wide - I have ADD, and I have a lisp - AND that aspect. Soo.....

Gemini rising too. This guy (the Leo with the Aquarius moon) was ALWAYS tapping his pencil, drumming something, on his phone, on his laptop, COULD NOT sit still for the life of me. It's interesting because I have Gemini rising too but you'd never know looking at me. Well, unless I opened my mouth.

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posted December 11, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm fairly sure i have ADD. i've never been tested but i've been told that maybe i should've been tested. i did an online test (not that i think that actually diagnoses it, but still...) and it said i was 85% ADD haha

i've been told "if you would just apply yourself" so often in school it's a little crazy. i'm interested in it, but just don't have the patience to sit down and focus on it. i have a super short attention span as well. i don't have anything in gemini but 3 planets in sag. i like moving at all times, i even get bored eating. i like to eat, wander around for a little while, eat a bit more, continue, and then stretch after i eat haha if i do sit down and eat, i need a book or i'll probably be there for AT LEAST half an hour.

i definitely have nervous energy at times, i went through a social anxiety phase also, which didn't really help.

Looking at our two charts lindisfarne, the things we have in common are Aqua sun and mercury, and venus in pisces, we have opposite moons signs. maybe it's the conflict between air and water that causes it?

i also have sleeping problems, i was pretty much an insomniac althroughout high school, but i've gotten a lot better at it.

i also have a lisp and had to go to speech therapy a lot when i was younger. My Mercury ISN'T square saturn though. Mercury in aqua, saturn in sagittarius.

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