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starfox
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posted December 16, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In personal relationships of all kinds, I can only let it go so far and no further, would that relate to my Mercury in XII house?

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amelia28
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posted December 16, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have venus/moon aspects to saturn? I feel this makes you so cautious in love bc of fear of getting hurt that it results in person letting people in but up to a certain point. Post your chart up!

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posted December 16, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Do you have venus/moon aspects to saturn? I feel this makes you so cautious in love bc of fear of getting hurt that it results in person letting people in but up to a certain point. Post your chart up!

Square Mercury Saturn is all I seem to have?
I will repost my chart tomorrow as it seems to have vanished & its now 12:40 am here... zzz

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posted December 18, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personal relationships....isn't that 7th House territory? Do you have Saturn in the 7th? Or maybe 8th? Since 8th deals with emotional intimacy.

The 12th is about merging with the universe, not interpersonal interactions.

Mercury in the 12th might make verbal expression difficult. A square from Saturn to Mercury slows down your thought process but also makes it careful and deliberated in time.

P.S. Let me in!! Let me in!! Lol

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Heartless
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posted December 18, 2011 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am the same. no matter how deep and meaningful the relationships are i keep everyone at arm's length. that deepest depth is meant for me and me alone.

i do have Saturn in H8. anything else/other aspects?

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put up your chart Star Fox
I would not think the 11th house would be enough to do that. I would think something with the moon/ and or 12th house planets.
Glad you reached out. You have been on my mind. You have been too quiet

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been scattered,lately. If I don't come back, put it up in the Asteroid forum and we can discuss it there.

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posted December 18, 2011 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StarFox, please make it a Natal+Transits+Progressions chart. I 'smell' personal planet activity by progression in the 12th...

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tautomer4314
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posted December 18, 2011 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is probably more going on then just a 12th house aspect. I agree with others sentiments that you should post your chart.

As for struggling to let other people in, try working on it! Baby steps. I struggle with it as well but I have made a good chunk of progress and am improving. Seeing a psychologist and group therapy has been very helpful.

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starfox
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posted December 18, 2011 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just been so busy lately.. and I can't find my photobucket login..

So until then, does anything in this stand out?

Sun Square Jupiter
Sun Square Uranus
Moon Trine Mercury
Moon Square Venus
Moon Opposition Neptune
Moon Trine Pluto
Moon Square Ascendant
Mercury Square Saturn
Mercury Sextile Neptune
Mercury Trine Pluto
Venus Sextile Saturn
Venus Square Neptune
Venus Quincunx Pluto
Venus Conjunction Ascendant
Jupiter Conjunction Uranus
Saturn Sextile Ascendant
Neptune Sextile Pluto

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2011 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square ASC---for one. Your deepest heart is at odds with your "exterior self" i.e. mask we all wear to the world, you could call it, although it is a stuck on mask, lest Ceri come and correct me

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posted December 18, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have planets in your 7th or 5th or 11th cusp??

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2011 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus conj ASC is good BUT Moon squares it making your deepest, most vulnerable heart at odds with your outer personality. Your Venus(love nature) is add odds with your deepest heart, too. These things make polarities that are hard to reconcile. It makes a stuck kind of situation like a stale mate sort of thing. Do you feel that?

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posted December 18, 2011 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus square Neptune. You may idealize people and not see clearly. Then, when reality hits, it is bad, and you want to give you. Does that fit?

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posted December 18, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

venus conj ASC is good BUT Moon squares it making your deepest, most vulnerable heart at odds with your outer personality. Your

Venus(love nature) is add odds with your deepest heart, too. These things make polarities that are hard to reconcile. It makes a stuck kind of situation like a stale mate sort of thing. Do you feel that?
Venus square Neptune. You may idealize people and not see clearly. Then, when reality hits, it is bad, and you want to give you. Does that fit?


yes and yes! my idealised people have feet of clay eventually..

I'll add this too, that lately things in my life seem to be finally coming together.?
I feel like a lot of stuff that used to trouble me has been dropped by the side of the road & I'm coming to a new place of things.
Like in a dream I had a while ago, where a little spirit told me she would 'fix my life for me' its like I'm finally becoming who/what I want to be.

Capricorn ageing syndrome neh?

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tautomer4314
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posted December 18, 2011 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something additional I see is moon opposing neptune could make your own feelings difficult to understand and communicate them. If you don't understand yourself well then this could lead to not feeling all that safe with letting people in (walls are built to protect yourself)

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posted December 18, 2011 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
moon opposing neptune could make your own feelings difficult to understand and communicate them.

Yes,I have this trouble, I feel its difficult to get my subtlest meanings across.

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posted December 18, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes,I have this trouble, I feel its difficult to get my subtlest meanings across.

One of the best ways to get around this is to simply try. Trial and error is sometimes needed to get past a barrier. The more you at least try to communicate your feelings to others, it will slowly get easier to open up and get close to others. Astrology explains a lot of stuff, but I personally never let it become an excuse .

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posted December 18, 2011 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this same problem, I always attributed it to my moon square saturn and mercury semi square saturn, don't know if this is right or wrong though. Sometimes I have trouble even making connections with people in the first place, either because Im willingly isolating myself or others will try and I will just cut them off in the very beginning for no real reason at all. Then later I wonder why Im lonely lol.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2011 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starfox and Scrappy. I am with you in having force myself to break down my internal tapes which make me want to hide away out of pain

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posted December 18, 2011 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Heartless:
i am the same. no matter how deep and meaningful the relationships are i keep everyone at arm's length. that deepest depth is meant for me and me alone.

i do have Saturn in H8. anything else/other aspects?



The thing I noticed with Saturn in the 8th people who are close to me is that they end up working on their intimacy issues as life progresses. Saturn will see to it, even if it takes a lifetime. They're just very careful about who they become close to (prudent & wise IMO).

I can't think of any other aspects that haven't been mentioned already.

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lindisfarne
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posted December 18, 2011 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You probably have some issues repressed, theres a reason why you can't let people in. Try cognitive therapy, astrological aspects can only get you so far

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