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Topic: Planets at 29 degrees-"critical"?
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polysigh Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Chicago, USA Registered: May 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 07:49 PM
My venus is in virgo at 29 degrees. I read recently that a planet at 29 degrees is considered a critical degree/point but there was no further explanation. Does anyone know what this means? Would my virgo venus manifest differently than someone who has theirs at say 0 or 15 degrees in the same sign?IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 378 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 17, 2011 07:56 PM
I have Mars & ASC 29 deg...Venus 0 deg...don't know a thing about the critical degrees...can anyone else help? IP: Logged |
MysticalCat Newflake Posts: 17 From: New Zealand Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 08:05 PM
As far as I understand it is an Instant Karma degree. For instance if you did something good you're likely to recieve a 5x more favorable outcome, whilst doing something bad would suffer you the outcome 5x as bad.Another interpretation I've read was that 0 degree reveals someone whole is intune with the most primal of human attributes & character whilst 29th degree people are more intune with the spiritual to the point where they lose interest in everyday pursuits focusing their energies towards the spiritual side, making them guess a little dazed & out of worldly or something like that. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1584 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 17, 2011 08:24 PM
Any bad aspects from 29 degree means you must overcome that Karma once and for all.O degree badly aspected means you must pass the test or in your next incarnation you will have the same lessons. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2423 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 18, 2011 04:33 AM
Fascinating replies so far.........IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2423 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 18, 2011 05:01 AM
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polysigh Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Chicago, USA Registered: May 2011
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posted December 18, 2011 08:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: Fascinating replies so far.........
I agree! Thanks for the input. IP: Logged |
FireWire Knowflake Posts: 370 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 18, 2011 09:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by MysticalCat: As far as I understand it is an Instant Karma degree. For instance if you did something good you're likely to recieve a 5x more favorable outcome, whilst doing something bad would suffer you the outcome 5x as bad.Another interpretation I've read was that 0 degree reveals someone whole is intune with the most primal of human attributes & character whilst 29th degree people are more intune with the spiritual to the point where they lose interest in everyday pursuits focusing their energies towards the spiritual side, making them guess a little dazed & out of worldly or something like that.
I have a Merc. in Scorp (2nd house) at 29 degrees...instant karma, like how? Do you mind elaborating? I do like information and can research anything (esp. the mind), but I've never used anything to harm anyone. I normally try to help, actually. And I do get described as dazed, scattered and "not from here" all of the time. But I also have a 12th house ruled by Virgo, so I'm definitely not aloof or scattered. I only let a few people know what is really going on. I just appear that way. But you 'really' have to get to know me to be able to track my thoughts. And I prefer to keep it that way.
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I'm so cappy Newflake Posts: 14 From: Poland Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 05:50 PM
My Libra Moon is at 29 degrees and at the same time is almost in the 3rd house. Sometimes it seems to me I might have some Scorpio traits... ------------------ lots of earth+lots of air+Merc in Sag=sandstorm shooting arrows So you better not mess up with me ;) IP: Logged |
Sorcha Knowflake Posts: 637 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 07:06 PM
A lot of astrologers disagree about anaretic (29) and critical (0) degrees. Usually, it is 0, 13 and 26 degrees of the Cardinal signs which are considered critical - Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn. The Fixed critical degrees are 8-9 and 21-22 (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aqua) The Mutable critical degrees are 4 and 17 degrees (Gemini, Virgo, Sag and Pisces) Personally, I consider all the 29 and 0 point degrees myself. Another way to look at the 29th degree (anaretic) and the 0 degree (critical) is to see them as beginnings and endings, or of cycles of learning. When you have a planet at the 29th degree, you can see it as wrapping up a lesson or tying up loose ends. There can sometimes be a sense of urgency about this degree, especially if it is in close aspect to another planet. Take a look at what planet it is as well as the energies of the sign it's under to get a better idea of what you are working on 'finishing'. Also, if there is a particularly close aspect associated with that planet, look to that aspect as being part and parcel of of the particular lesson. (ie - your Sun at the 29th degree might have karmic issues surrounding your identity or ego while Mars at the 29th degree could have something to do with assertiveness - too much or too little) Those are just examples to give you an idea of what I mean. The 0 degree is more like the beginning of a new cycle and adapting to a new energy. Apply the same idea as above but in terms of lessons you are beginning instead of ending. I have found that this is also very telling in your progressed chart as well. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 2025 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 08:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sorcha: A lot of astrologers disagree about anaretic (29) and critical (0) degrees. Usually, it is 0, 13 and 26 degrees of the Cardinal signs which are considered critical - Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn. The Fixed critical degrees are 8-9 and 21-22 (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aqua) The Mutable critical degrees are 4 and 17 degrees (Gemini, Virgo, Sag and Pisces) Personally, I consider all the 29 and 0 point degrees myself. Another way to look at the 29th degree (anaretic) and the 0 degree (critical) is to see them as beginnings and endings, or of cycles of learning. When you have a planet at the 29th degree, you can see it as wrapping up a lesson or tying up loose ends. There can sometimes be a sense of urgency about this degree, especially if it is in close aspect to another planet. Take a look at what planet it is as well as the energies of the sign it's under to get a better idea of what you are working on 'finishing'. Also, if there is a particularly close aspect associated with that planet, look to that aspect as being part and parcel of of the particular lesson. (ie - your Sun at the 29th degree might have karmic issues surrounding your identity or ego while Mars at the 29th degree could have something to do with assertiveness - too much or too little) Those are just examples to give you an idea of what I mean. The 0 degree is more like the beginning of a new cycle and adapting to a new energy. Apply the same idea as above but in terms of lessons you are beginning instead of ending. I have found that this is also very telling in your progressed chart as well.
Could you offer me a little insight? I have my sun in the critical degree for fixed signs (21 degrees Aquarius) and it's conjunct my Mercury, which is in the anaretic degree. What could I possibly have to learn from having Mercury in the anaretic degree? And moreover, could this be the reason I don't drive?
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Sorcha Knowflake Posts: 637 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 08:17 PM
Aquacheeka,In the charts I have studied where Mercury is at 29 degrees, I have found that there is karma associated with matters pertaining to communication. I actually have my Draconic Mercury at 29 degrees Libra opposite Neptune at 0 degrees Taurus. I have the opposition natally as well but not at critical degrees. In any case, for me on a soul level, I find it important to work on making sure that I communicate clearly, without misunderstanding or fuzzy logic. I can tend to go back and forth between my Mercury (which is sharp and super concise) and my Neptune (which is very foggy and unclear and based in feelings and knowings which are hard to articulate). For a Sun/Mercury conjunction I would say that in your case (depending on other aspects and house position) it may have to do with your identity and/or ego and how it affects the way you communicate or receive communication from others. Maybe ask yourself the question 'how can I find balance in my communications with others'? I'd be curious to know what house it's in. IP: Logged |
Sorcha Knowflake Posts: 637 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 08:46 PM
Here's a site that discusses critical degrees. Not sure if it will apply to anyone, but would be curious to know. http://www.dearbrutus.com/critical_degrees.html IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 2609 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 11:04 PM
My Vertex is at 29 Sag. Maybe that's influential because my first son has Juno at 29 Sag, my second son's ASC is 29 Sag, my third son's Pluto is at 29 Sag, and my fourth son's MC is 28 Sag...if that counts. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 11:42 PM
Mars in Cancer at 29 degrees. It's in the 8th. I have a lot of crises considering personal relationships and also my family. I basically feel that I have a lot of malice and anger towards my family and have had combative relationships since childhood from a pretty young age, not even of my doing 90% of the time.
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 2709 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2012 02:22 AM
Here's an interesting link on the 29th degree http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/special-points/ ------------------
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Maelstrom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: England Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 15, 2012 04:22 AM
I have Mercury, Venus and Jupiter (retrograde) all at 29 degrees. I have read many different interpretations on the subject but I have yet to find one that seems relevant to me. I am unclear on the whole "karmic lesson" viewpoint. Whilst I am a great believer in reincarnation I dont understand how I'm supposed to behave with these three planets at 29degs. If this is a life lesson then obviously I have some very important ones...how do I know if I'm getting it right?? Confused.com ------------------ "The fish is the twelfth sign, a composite of all that's gone before, and his nature is a blend of all the other signs, which is quite a lot to cope with" Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Blanky Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 16, 2012 10:03 PM
I think the 29th degree is like a TEST. Somehow, someway this is the time that you prove you are competent regarding the planet, sign, and placement that is at 29 degrees.I think that when a planet is at 0 degrees that we are beginning a new chapter of our life. We are a "baby" in this energy and are open for this new phase in our life. Uranus in Cancer in 5th at 29 degrees. Had my daughter at 34 yrs and was a single mother for 14 years. Very tough test that one. Neptune in Scorpio on 8th House cusp at 0 degrees. A "baby" in learning all that the 8th House Scorpio encompasses. The occult, sex, other people's money...wading through new waters. IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Los Angeles, Calif Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 17, 2012 08:52 AM
it's considered critical degree but not because of "karmic" properties. karmic astrology is another ballpark.generally speaking, 0 degree is the strongest power and 29 is the weakest point. planets gain strength or lose their mojo based upon degrees and affinity with the sign they're in. let's look at you 29 virgo venus. whilst it's in the fallen position of venus, a few moments later, venus would have entered her domicile of libra. because venus was about to go home, your venus gets a boost of excitement. ever get that feeling of looking at the clock and seeing that you have a few minutes left before you can go home? well that's what your venus acts like. venus is about to leave her jail cell and get to go home so she's getting all gussied up and happy. basically speaking, you don't really have that yucky of a venus unlike those who have early virgo venus. if anything, you have a stronger influence and behave more like a person with libra venus. another example is my 29 gemini mercury. if i was born a day later, i would have been cursed with soggy cancer mercury and that would really suck. although my gemini mercury is in domicile, still, mercury doesn't want to leave his home and so my gemini mercury power is fizzled. early gemini mercury is most powerful. despite my nearly busted gemini mercury, i've always been 1 of the top 3 in all my classes, devastate others in debates and arguments, and behave like a gemini mercury does. the gross part is, sometimes, i do get depressed (like cancer mercury would) about people. IP: Logged |