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posted December 18, 2011 06:43 AM            

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29 degrees is a karmic degree so if you have a planet in this degree is urgent/essential you learn the karmic lesson of that planet in order to keep evolving spiritually.

I have progressed pluto in libra at 29 degrees in my 11th cusp and it opposes my progressed juno in Taurus in the 5th at 1 degree and progressed juno will be at 0 degree in a year.

Hence I have karma involving 11th/5th house axis, pluto/juno, and libra/Taurus.

What is it that I am suppose to get right this time around that involves the theme of Juno/Pluto/5th house/11th house/Taurus/Libra??

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posted December 18, 2011 08:03 AM            

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It depends on what the 5th House means to you. It can be recreation (fun or children of the mind) or re-creation (children). I'm just gonna go with the latter for simplicity's sake.

At this point in your life, you feel an internal tension between the transformation/intensification of hopes and ideals through partnership and your need for a traditional/secure relationship when the question of having children is at hand.

You feel as though you have to sacrifice some of your group-oriented goals and ideals for your need to have children within a secure relationship.

With the opposition, you will probably have to choose a side.

This is all happening within so your transits should hopefully provide opportunities for resolution.

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posted December 18, 2011 03:32 PM            

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Interesting.......all my life I always knew I wanted children but in the last year or so the idea scares me. I talk to husband about it and tell him I want to have a baby but TWO minutes later tell him I dont. I have been doing this back and forth thing for at least a year or so now. I always knew I wanted to be married before having children.

I very much want to adopt with him but he is not going to go for it. Adopting I suppose would be a good way to compromise the opposition right??

I am realizing now that the indecision about having kids probably started when progressed libra turned to 29 degrees bc this indecision is a new thing and I read that libra at 29 degrees makes you indecisive. I also only recently started becoming indecisive about the idea of marriage and started to become more unconventional in my thinking.

In a year progressed Juno will be at 0 degrees in taurus in the 5th cusp. I wonder if perhaps then I will make up mind about having children.

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posted December 18, 2011 03:41 PM            

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Athene mentioned this in another thread and that is why I started this one:

Any bad aspects from 29 degree means you must overcome that Karma once and for all.

O degree badly aspected means you must pass the test or in your next incarnation you will have the same lessons.

I am trying to figure out the significance of these critical degrees in relation to this progressed transit.

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posted December 18, 2011 03:45 PM            

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It could also mean that I Would have to give up a meaningful friendship if I decide to have a baby with husband

or that I will have to give up my dream of adopting bc husband does not want this in order to have a family with him.

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posted December 18, 2011 03:51 PM            

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wow. i am not sure how to answer your question but my MC is 29 libra, and not only that, its ruler, venus is 29 sag in my chart.

someone told me a few days ago that anaretic degrees are really intensely expressive, so i suppose that makes sense that libra at its 'fullest' would be extremely indecisive. i don't really feel that i'm especially indecisive personally but maybe i'm not looking at it in the right context or something and it feels like it must not be a coincidence that my MC ruler is also anaretic. things that make you go hmm!

i'm going to contemplate this today as i have a big decision to make and see if anything i ponder might be of relevance to you. oh and my pluto, which is a singleton at 19 libra in my 10th, is my most elevated planet as well so there is a bit of a tie in there as well, i guess, even though the orb is very wide.

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posted December 18, 2011 04:00 PM            

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I read this in cafeastrology:

If the Sun progresses to 29 degrees of Libra, for example, the sense of urgency and crisis can surround relationships. Divorce or jumping into a new partnership rather blindly may be the result of this urgency.

Even though is talking about the sun and not pluto, it resonates. I have never been the indecisive type, this is a new thing and this sense of urgency has been messing with me for about a year and is amazing that I haven't left and jumped into a new partnership. Perhaps the opposition to Juno is what kept me from leaving and the fact that 29 degrees is karmic and this relationship is karmic so leaving is not an option at least that is how it feels with him, I have to deal with the karma in this life that I have with him once and for all, hence the sense of urgency but now I am seeing that the karma has to do with having children as well. Husband didn't want to have kids when I met him but my relationship with him transformed that and this is something he felt really strongly about. Now he does but will only CONSIDER adopting if we have one of our own.

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posted December 18, 2011 04:15 PM            

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my progressed sun conjuncts my p pluto and is also opposing my p juno in the 5th cusp. In 5 years progressed sun will be at 0 degrees in scorpio an opposing juno at 0 degrees in Taurus.

so I have a progressed stellium between sun/pluto/juno.

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posted December 18, 2011 04:24 PM            

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that was your 1111th post!

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posted December 18, 2011 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
that was your 1111th post!

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OMG you are right......I was totally going to miss that. Thanks for pointing this out. I have noticed that meaningful numbers do appear when I am trying really hard to figure something out in LL in relation to why I am here.

1111 has do with twin souls.

sun/pluto/juno and 11th/5th cusp and 1111..how can we connect these three variables together?

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