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Topic: Saturn conjunct Pluto: Serial Kiler??
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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted December 20, 2011 03:02 AM
  
Um ... I have Saturn conjunct Pluto, Mars, and Ascendant, in Libra.My temper is not pretty, and my anger has gotten me in trouble more than a few times, although I am mellowing out a bit the older I get. I have never attempted to murder anyone though!
And I have rarely ever been violent, and never seriously violent.
I tend to make a lot of noise, usually driven by a sense of injustice or unfairness (Libra?), and then I turn it inwards so I don't hurt anyone else (ascendant conjunction?). IP: Logged |
amelia28
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From: dumont, CO
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posted December 20, 2011 03:04 AM
Lonake,I really wish I could discuss Ted's chart in person with you bc right now I have so many questions running through my head LOL...So his natal jupiter squares natal pluto/saturn or transit jupiter squared his natal pluto/saturn at time of the killings?? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 20, 2011 03:16 AM
^ Natally Jupiter squares his Saturn/Pluto conjunction, from Scorp to Leo.
There was another thread, remember, where people were talking about Saturn sq Jupiter and poor judgement, being jailed. That aspect has also been linked to depressive states in some interpretations I've read, Jupiter is the high end and then Saturn is the come down of reality.What Q's do you have? IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted December 20, 2011 03:21 AM
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amelia28
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posted December 20, 2011 03:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Natally Jupiter squares his Saturn/Pluto conjunction, from Scorp to Leo.
There was another thread, remember, where people were talking about Saturn sq Jupiter and poor judgement, being jailed. That aspect has also been linked to depressive states in some interpretations I've read, Jupiter is the high end and then Saturn is the come down of reality.What Q's do you have?
I have moon quintile chiron and moon biquintile pluto and eros biquintile neptune.
Why? does that redirect the energy of the aspect to something positive?  yes my friend from that thread does have jupiter square saturn and he is smart but does have poor judgement sometimes AND he is bipolar and has been all this life so I can definitely see what you mean about the jupiter been the high and saturn the low. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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From: dumont, CO
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 20, 2011 03:30 AM
Add:
He also has:
jupiter sesquisquare pluto in addition to
jupiter square saturn.
sun square pluto and
jupiter square uranus
venus square uranus,
venus conjunct saturn/uranus and neptune.
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amelia28
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posted December 20, 2011 03:42 AM
I also have:
pluto semisextile sun,
pluto sextile venus/mars,
pluto sextile neptune.in addition to pluto biquintile moon and pluto conjunct saturn. Could this mean that I have many good outlets for this energy that are positive and soft? bc I am not dark....I do like knowing about the the ugly side of the world bc I dont want to live in a bubble and hide myself from the truth but when I hear about people suffering it makes me really sad. I need to see his whole chart. I am going to post it. I could see how the jupiter square to pluto/saturn if there was darkness already reinforced by other aspects would expand the darkness in him and lead to murder so I want to check out his chart and see what other aspects he has. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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From: dumont, CO
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 20, 2011 04:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by scrappydog:
[b]This Can be a very harsh and sometimes vicious aspect and it is common in charts of killers. But it alone would absolutely Not make it so, it would need to be in hard contact to the sun, moon, or especially mars.
Ted Bundy had Mars trine to his conjunction. Here are the aspects,
Saturn/Pluto conj in Leo:
-both trine to Mars
-both sq to Jupiter
-both sextile to Neptune
-both trine to Moon (altho the orb from Saturn is a bit wide)
-Saturn trine to Sun
-Pluto sq to Venus
-Pluto sq to MC/IC [/B][/QUOTE] Pluto square to MC/IC has to be significant...is what made him famous but in a bad way and perhaps his family background has something to do with his poor coping skills and mental health conditions that lead to him been a killer. He appears to have both a lot of hard and soft aspects to the conjunct of pluto/saturn which probably has A LOT to do with it as this probably explains why he enjoys it!. My saturn conjunct pluto do not have any aspects to it. The other only aspect I have involving saturn is saturn semisquare mercury and pluto does not aspect my mercury and my MC semisquares my saturn but no aspects to my pluto. Thanks so much for this input, I am truly learning . You turned this thread into an astrology lesson for me . Thanks! Here is the chart in case some of you are more visual:
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