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posted December 19, 2011 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chiron conjuncts his venus
My venus is opposite his chiron
My sun is opposite his chiron

How would these aspects play out in synastry? I've read the conjunction of venus/chiron=true love...the opposite of venus/chiron=impossible dream...sun opposite chiron...???

It seems Magi Astrology puts a lot of emphasis on chiron in synastry. I hate to be redundant, I am sure this has been posted about a lot...but do you all subscribe to Magi's hypotheses? And what are your thoughts about the above aspects in a synastry chart esp. the venus/chiron DW. Sun/chiron?? I am clueless on this one. Do relationships with a lot of chiron tend to last or fizzle out?


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posted December 19, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Run.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Run.

Is it that bad? Seriously, do you have a personal experience with this, athene?? If you want to share...don't want to pry

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posted December 19, 2011 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I do.

My Venus Gemini 14
His Chiron Gemini 14

His Venus Virgo 13
His Mars Virgo 14
His Uranus Sagittarius 14

Wasn't a DW but we do have Venus trine Vertex exact DW. When we met it was very deep and profound love.

Chiron wounds.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes I do.

My Venus Gemini 14
His Chiron Gemini 14

His Venus Virgo 13
His Mars Virgo 14
His Uranus Sagittarius 14


Did you run? if so, why??

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posted December 19, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I still talk to him. But he is so slow with love. He is like a turtle and I don't have time to wait for him.

Sad too, because I'm the love of his life. We met when his P Venus was conjunct His Natal Sun and my ASc conjuncts this.

Right now even, his Solar Arc Venus is exactly conjunct his Natal Sun. And I know I'm the one giving him the love energy because my last name asteroid opposes his Sun exact.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes I do.

My Venus Gemini 14
His Chiron Gemini 14

His Venus Virgo 13
His Mars Virgo 14
His Uranus Sagittarius 14

Wasn't a DW but we do have Venus trine Vertex exact DW. When we met it was very deep and profound love.

Chiron wounds.


Do you mean the chiron person wounds the other? So I guess we both wounded each other in some way? Like you, felt the same way upon meeting. Speaking of literally running, I think we both ran from it, brought up painful stuff.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
No, I still talk to him. But he is so slow with love. He is like a turtle and I don't have time to wait for him.

Sad too, because I'm the love of his life. We met when his P Venus was conjunct His Natal Sun and my ASc conjuncts this.

Right now even, his Solar Arc Venus is exactly conjunct his Natal Sun. And I know I'm the one giving him the love energy because my last name asteroid opposes his Sun exact.


Sorry to hear that. do you speak with him often? Must be hell to see him and not be able to move the relationship forward. I can relate. Thanks for your input.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stopped seeing him awhile ago.
He is too damn slow for me.

And yes the Chiron person wounds BUT only if the Chiron person has afflictions which he clearly does lol.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I stopped seeing him awhile ago.
He is too damn slow for me.

And yes the Chiron person wounds BUT only if the Chiron person has afflictions which he clearly does lol.


Athene, one more thing (and thanks for your patience!)...can the "wounding" mean the chiron person brings up the venus person's "stuff" thereby bringing down venus' walls and venus finds it hurtful and "wounding" to confront such issues?

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posted December 19, 2011 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends what is afflicting the Chiron. In our case since Venus/Mars/Uranus was in the mix, the wounding has to do with us not being able to have a permanent stable relationship.

Uranus isn't about stability.
So it depends what is making the bad aspect.

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posted December 19, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
It depends what is afflicting the Chiron. In our case since Venus/Mars/Uranus was in the mix, the wounding has to do with us not being able to have a permanent stable relationship.

Uranus isn't about stability.
So it depends what is making the bad aspect.


I understand what you are saying now. Thanks, athene!

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posted December 19, 2011 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly? It depends. Remember Chiron is wounding OR healing. So the relationship could actually be extremely healing and emotionally beneficial to one or both parties...or be really hurtful.

I've had people trigger my Chiron and it was hurtful for me but that doesn't mean that's always how it'll manifest for everyone.

I really think you should just continue on seeing one another anyway for now and then if you start seeing signs that it's going to go bad, get out while you can. But it'd be stupid to just figure it'd be a disaster just based on that one aspect and run like hell because you could be running out on and missing something good.

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posted December 19, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Honestly? It depends. Remember Chiron is wounding OR healing. So the relationship could actually be extremely healing and emotionally beneficial to one or both parties...or be really hurtful.

I've had people trigger my Chiron and it was hurtful for me but that doesn't mean that's always how it'll manifest for everyone.

I really think you should just continue on seeing one another anyway for now and then if you start seeing signs that it's going to go bad, get out while you can. But it'd be stupid to just figure it'd be a disaster just based on that one aspect and run like hell because you could be running out on and missing something good.


Did you not read what I wrote?

An affliction means wounding. Good aspects mean healing.

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posted December 20, 2011 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Magi astrology put much into chiron but they not talk about chariklo. I think this astrologycouple Chiron/Chariklo in aspect in synastry must be most important. Exactly on same way as eros/psyche.

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posted December 22, 2011 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Magi stuff is bogus, don't waste your time with all those fatalistic linkage descriptions. They put waaaaaaay to much emphasis on Chiron, which was only discovered during the 1970s, and they say Juno is ONLY about sex. Talk about revisionist history! That is NOT what the mythology of Juno is. Only thing I like about Magi is the use of declinations. Magi astrology has been discussed many times before here and the majority of people feel they are full of it.

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posted December 22, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't think they are lying about Venus/Chiron conjunctions in synastry. In my experience it is indeed the marker of true and very deep love. Something about it makes it very different from other connections.

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posted December 22, 2011 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Don't think they are lying about Venus/Chiron conjunctions in synastry. In my experience it is indeed the marker of true and very deep love. Something about it makes it very different from other connections.

Nah, not discounting your experience at all, I wouldn't put too much stock in their theories regarding Venus/chiron.

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posted January 30, 2022 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psyche23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this thread is super duper old, but I'm wondering... does anyone have experience with a DW Venus trine Chiron in synastry, and therefore Venus trine Chiron in composite?

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