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Topic: Family Composite + Death Of A Child
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 10:24 AM
I am doing some research on child deaths as they relate to the composite of parent and child, and if your child has passed away (or you know someone who has had a child pass on) please provide birth info or post your composite with that child and also list the date the son/daughter died. Thank you.IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 10:27 AM
I suggest that if you're not relevant to the subject matter that there is no need to respond. This thread is for my research purposes, for the time being. Also I will post any relevant findings, here. If it turns into a wayward debate I will abandon this thread and begin anew. There are people who do research, alone, and I am one of them. However, comments on any findings (when updated) are welcome, as that would be a good jump start to the discussion for any interested parties.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7045 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 12:09 PM
Will check back and post when I get home because I cannot post charts from work.Thank you. IP: Logged |
Still_Hopeful Knowflake Posts: 617 From: Boston,USA Registered: Aug 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 12:17 PM
Lonake, you are sure you want to do that?what is a reason.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6130 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 22, 2011 12:22 PM
Why not? It is a research. Besides,Lonake can carry it out,H8 Sun... She finds death themes fascinating.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 12:22 PM
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3421 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 12:35 PM
I keep thinking about casey anthony. her poor little girl had Venus in Virgo (fall) square Pluto in Sag. Don't know exact day she died though so might not be helpful.IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 03:18 PM
^ Yes, that is one way that Astrodatabank has failed this discussion. I don't feel too comfortable venturing outside of their database or astrology forums for data. Wikipedia, often has it wrong, etc.IP: Logged |
PhoenixFire Knowflake Posts: 1398 From: The Crossing Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 04:04 PM
Would it be helpful to provide the dates of births, without the times? If I obtain permission, would like to contribute my cousin's data along with the parents, if they are ok with it. I have his time of birth/death, don't know their birth times.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2011 04:07 PM
You can e mail me about this subject, Lonake, Sweetheart!------------------ Passion,Lust, Desire Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Soothsayer Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 04:23 PM
Lonake, My mother lost her first child. I am sure she will remember his time of birth. I will find out today and post the composite for you, as well as the date (and possibly even the time) of death. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 04:45 PM
@ Lonake another site is astrotheme.fr. Very thorough database. Not sure if they'll have the famous people that you want, but very good. They have the site translated in English too. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6130 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 22, 2011 04:52 PM
^I use it sometimes,but it is way 2nd in comparison to asrro.comIP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7045 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 06:00 PM
So is this thread on or notI'm not going to pour my heart out if this thread is not serious. I'm perturbed by the level of noise. Losing my children is the most tragic thing in my life and I'm not going to have my loss trivialized by superfluous remarks. I lost two children. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6130 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 22, 2011 07:30 PM
Check if Lonake has email in her profile,and send data to her.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2011 08:15 PM
Lonake is a serious person, Ian. You can trust her.------------------ Passion,Lust, Desire Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7045 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 08:22 PM
I'm not questioning or doubting that, Ami. It's not her I'm concerned about. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 4125 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 08:29 PM
I hear you YoursTrulyAlways I lost one and I still can't talk about it sending you a compassionate hug IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7045 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 08:32 PM
Thank you very much, Lalalinda! Time never heals. It's always brutally painful. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6130 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 22, 2011 08:35 PM
People on LL are good people. No one would mock/question your pain,or anything of the sorts.IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 2242 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2011 10:15 PM
I wouldn't find it reliable to find the death of a child in the composite chart as the place to look is with the natal chart of the child or parent. To show in BOTH parents natals AND also in the composite would be too much. Still, it's possible.In the composite and also parents chart, you look at house 5 and 4 rulers. 5th for the child, and the 4th for the death of the child, as the 4th is the derived 12th house from the 5th. 12th house is death or 'end of' - end of child. IP: Logged |
Soothsayer Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 23, 2011 12:16 PM
I truly feel a heavy heart for any one of you who have suffered the loss of a child. It is not a joke or something to be taken lightly. It has got to be the most heartbreaking thing that could ever happen to anyone. It's been 23 years since my mother lost her first child and I can still see that awful pain in her eyes. I really hope that those of you that have been through such a tragedy are able to find some sort of peace Unfortunately, it is a part of life that so many have to suffer with. The biggest part of studying astrology, well for me anyway, is to studying human life. Why people do what they do and why things happen they way they do. I am interested in what Lonake can find, any correlation to the deaths in the composites. It's a hard subject to discuss, I know. But, even my mother was intrigued when I discussed it with her yesterday. Lonake, I have the birth date and time of his birthday as well as my mothers. But I don't have the father's birth date or time (her and the father broke up a couple years before she was with my father). Will the composite still be relevant if it is only with the mother and child?
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2011 02:30 PM
^ If it is a matter where one parent was more bonded to the child (in cases of parent abandonment, which happens often, or any other similar case) then the data for just that parent is fine. Adoptive parents are valid too, of course. IP: Logged |
Soothsayer Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 23, 2011 03:56 PM
My mother was definitely the most bonded to him. Her son was only about a week old when he passed (S.I.D.S). Below is the composite of he and my mother. He passed away October 1st 1988, about 8am(if needed). IP: Logged |
Soothsayer Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 23, 2011 04:03 PM
I really don't mean to hog this thread or anything, but I am really curious about that Uranus retro in the 8th. Unexpected death maybe? What do you think?IP: Logged |