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Lonake
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posted December 22, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am doing some research on child deaths as they relate to the composite of parent and child, and if your child has passed away (or you know someone who has had a child pass on) please provide birth info or post your composite with that child and also list the date the son/daughter died. Thank you.

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Lonake
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posted December 22, 2011 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suggest that if you're not relevant to the subject matter that there is no need to respond.
This thread is for my research purposes, for the time being. Also I will post any relevant findings, here.
If it turns into a wayward debate I will abandon this thread and begin anew.
There are people who do research, alone, and I am one of them. However, comments on any findings (when updated) are welcome, as that would be a good jump start to the discussion for any interested parties.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 22, 2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will check back and post when I get home because I cannot post charts from work.

Thank you.

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Still_Hopeful
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posted December 22, 2011 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, you are sure you want to do that?what is a reason.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not? It is a research. Besides,Lonake can carry it out,H8 Sun... She finds death themes fascinating.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted December 22, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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athenegoddess
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posted December 22, 2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I keep thinking about casey anthony. her poor little girl had Venus in Virgo (fall) square Pluto in Sag. Don't know exact day she died though so might not be helpful.

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Lonake
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posted December 22, 2011 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yes, that is one way that Astrodatabank has failed this discussion. I don't feel too comfortable venturing outside of their database or astrology forums for data. Wikipedia, often has it wrong, etc.

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PhoenixFire
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posted December 22, 2011 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would it be helpful to provide the dates of births, without the times? If I obtain permission, would like to contribute my cousin's data along with the parents, if they are ok with it. I have his time of birth/death, don't know their birth times.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2011 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can e mail me about this subject, Lonake, Sweetheart!

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Soothsayer
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posted December 22, 2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake,
My mother lost her first child. I am sure she will remember his time of birth. I will find out today and post the composite for you, as well as the date (and possibly even the time) of death.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted December 22, 2011 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Lonake another site is astrotheme.fr. Very thorough database. Not sure if they'll have the famous people that you want, but very good. They have the site translated in English too.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2011 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I use it sometimes,but it is way 2nd in comparison to asrro.com

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 22, 2011 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So is this thread on or not

I'm not going to pour my heart out if this thread is not serious. I'm perturbed by the level of noise.

Losing my children is the most tragic thing in my life and I'm not going to have my loss trivialized by superfluous remarks.

I lost two children.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2011 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check if Lonake has email in her profile,and send data to her.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2011 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake is a serious person, Ian. You can trust her.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 22, 2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not questioning or doubting that, Ami. It's not her I'm concerned about.

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lalalinda
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posted December 22, 2011 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you YoursTrulyAlways

I lost one and I still can't talk about it

sending you a compassionate hug

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 22, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much, Lalalinda! Time never heals. It's always brutally painful.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2011 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People on LL are good people.
No one would mock/question your pain,or anything of the sorts.

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Coffee
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posted December 22, 2011 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't find it reliable to find the death of a child in the composite chart as the place to look is with the natal chart of the child or parent. To show in BOTH parents natals AND also in the composite would be too much. Still, it's possible.

In the composite and also parents chart, you look at house 5 and 4 rulers. 5th for the child, and the 4th for the death of the child, as the 4th is the derived 12th house from the 5th. 12th house is death or 'end of' - end of child.

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posted December 23, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I truly feel a heavy heart for any one of you who have suffered the loss of a child. It is not a joke or something to be taken lightly. It has got to be the most heartbreaking thing that could ever happen to anyone. It's been 23 years since my mother lost her first child and I can still see that awful pain in her eyes. I really hope that those of you that have been through such a tragedy are able to find some sort of peace

Unfortunately, it is a part of life that so many have to suffer with. The biggest part of studying astrology, well for me anyway, is to studying human life. Why people do what they do and why things happen they way they do. I am interested in what Lonake can find, any correlation to the deaths in the composites. It's a hard subject to discuss, I know. But, even my mother was intrigued when I discussed it with her yesterday.


Lonake,
I have the birth date and time of his birthday as well as my mothers. But I don't have the father's birth date or time (her and the father broke up a couple years before she was with my father). Will the composite still be relevant if it is only with the mother and child?

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Lonake
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posted December 23, 2011 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ If it is a matter where one parent was more bonded to the child (in cases of parent abandonment, which happens often, or any other similar case) then the data for just that parent is fine. Adoptive parents are valid too, of course.

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posted December 23, 2011 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother was definitely the most bonded to him. Her son was only about a week old when he passed (S.I.D.S). Below is the composite of he and my mother. He passed away October 1st 1988, about 8am(if needed).

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posted December 23, 2011 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't mean to hog this thread or anything, but I am really curious about that Uranus retro in the 8th. Unexpected death maybe? What do you think?

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