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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering why I am so quirky. I was, just, going to do an article on how OBE's can cure disease. I stopped and said,"Damn, you are quirky" I have Jupiter conjunction Uranus and Vesta in the 9th house. This must be why. There is no idea that is too way out for me not to consider. It has to be the Jupiter conj Uranus in the 9th. Please, comment, if you care to and tell me your own whale tales about Jupiter

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posted December 23, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that jupiter conjunct uranus in the 9th will definitely make you open minded and open to considering alternative explanations for things. You add natal mercury retrograde and the need for everything to make sense at the deepest level of your core before you completely commit yourself to an idea is enhanced.

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posted December 23, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I think that jupiter conjunct uranus in the 9th will definitely make you open minded and open to considering alternative explanations for things. You add natal mercury retrograde and the need for everything to make sense at the deepest level of your core before you completely commit yourself to an idea is enhanced.

Thank you Amelia I have Merc Retro and Saturn Retro conjunct the ASC so I don't act on this stuff

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posted December 23, 2011 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really saw how Jupiter enlarged Venus in Doux Reve cuz she has an abounding love. She has Jupiter conjunct Venus. Having friends who share your love for Astrology really helps you understand it, more.

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posted December 23, 2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami you're so sweet for saying this
Thank you.


I don't know how exactly Jupiter works with the outer planets but it definitely "expands" the inner ones.
With the Sun = +ego, Moon = +emotions, Mercury = +intellectual pursuits, Venus = +love of good things and Mars = +energy.
These are just some ideas, it can certainly manifest in many different ways.

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posted December 23, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Doux
Could you give some examples of the Sun, like real life practical examples, if you care to.

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posted December 23, 2011 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami I don't know much about Sun-Jupiter aspects myself, so here is a link to an article about them, in case you haven't read it: http://astrofix.net/2011/03/22/sunjupiter-aspects/

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posted December 23, 2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Doux I will look. One site said a man would have a large penis if he had Jupiter in the 8th house

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posted December 23, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

n.Jupiter conjuncts my Sun and ASC. Definitely bite of way more than I can chew. I always assume I can do so many more things than is really possible. I do have a tendency to over-estimate my skills. As for the ego... Uuhh... Hate to admit it, but yup. It's there all right!

It gives me a cartoon kind of optimism. Meaning, I can get slammed by an anvil on my head, then pop right back up again later.

Guess the biggest issue is wanting to do everything. A Virgo friend told me I want to do too much. I don't want to pick something and stick with it, I want to do it ALL!

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posted December 23, 2011 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello,

n.Jupiter conjuncts my Sun and ASC. Definitely bite of way more than I can chew. I always assume I can do so many more things than is really possible. I do have a tendency to over-estimate my skills. As for the ego... Uuhh... Hate to admit it, but yup. It's there all right!

It gives me a cartoon kind of optimism. Meaning, I can get slammed by an anvil on my head, then pop right back up again later.

Guess the biggest issue is wanting to do everything. A Virgo friend told me I want to do too much. I don't want to pick something and stick with it, I want to do it ALL!



Yes, I would think it would give a happy, optimistic ego, not an obnoxious one

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posted December 23, 2011 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok Doux I will look. One site said a man would have a large penis if he had Jupiter in the 8th house



LMAO!!!!!!

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posted December 23, 2011 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ HAHA gotta see if that's true.

mmm

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posted December 23, 2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that I often mistake someone's Jupiter sign for their ASC. In any case, usually it is pronounced in the personality, just the same way as someone's Saturn sign might often be hard to pinpoint just by a quick interaction with them. People tend to emphasize their Jupiter sign and simultaneously put a positive spin on it, even if they are met with negative comments. Say, someone tells a Jupiter in Gemini person to shut up, they will still often carry on their merry way regardless. If they can't get their Jupiter needs met through that person (maybe adverse Jupiter synastry), they will gravitate to areas/people where they can be moving information around, getting opinions, etc., because that brings Gemini Jupiter joy and purpose. If someone calls a Leo Jupiter pompous, they might happily retort, "Well, I was born for greatness," make a joke out of it and move on. But the attitude of Leo Jupiter is that one would be hard-pressed to take away their firm belief in their specialness, so you get the sense that they really weren't completely joking after all.

Positive Jupiter synastry, esp conjunctions and trines to personal planets/points is helpful (I would personally say that it is a necessity). If you're not supporting someone's Jupiter, they will easily run off and find some other way to get their Jupiter needs satisfied. Jupiter needs to be expressed, for a feeling of freedom, of joy. Squares in synastry to personal planets can point to the personal planet person not appreciating what Jupiter has to offer, often that happens with Venus square Jupiter: Jupiter sees something of value in Venus and wants to give, but they give based on what brings them joy, which is not at all what Venus would love to receive. The square with Jupiter can point to excess, so Jupiter keeps wanting to make this connection and share a positive experience with Venus, but Venus says "enough is enough, we don't like the same things." Venus conj or trine (and to a lesser extent sextile) Jupiter, it is an easy connection, Venus sees value in what Jupiter has to offer, and loves the gifts that she receives. A gift in this sense can be something in the physical, but often it is just Jupiter supporting Venus in their expression of their Venusian qualities, resulting in higher esteem for Venus, and increased romantic/beautiful thoughts of Venus for Jupiter. The square between the two can cause Jupiter to place too much emphasis on Venus's qualities, place too much value on them where it results in overkill and puts Jupiter in a place to be used if the Venus person so chooses, because Venus would have the upper hand.

Jupiter just wants to give and receive basically the same product (their personal Jupiter brand of happiness, whatever that may be), wants to raise their vibrational energy in the manner according to their Jupiter, wants to emphasize the qualities of the sign and house it is in, the aspects it makes. Those qualities, if not horribly overdone, often attract luck in those specific areas, because it would give out positive energy and receive it in turn. Jupiter is never really satisfied, it wants to keep expanding, building upon what it already knows, covering new ground, sharing what it's learned with like-minded others, always moving forward. This is the main reason I place emphasis on it in synastry because Jupiter never really sleeps. Saturn can lie dormant, it can be repressed, it can go unacknowledged for long periods of time, it can be explained away. Jupiter will never try to hide itself, never fears not being accepted (from what I've seen), because that is where the belief in the self lies. You could think of someone's Jupiter as their own personal religion.

If you're having trouble picking up on Jupiter's energy in the chart, whether natally or in synastry, then just take the time to mark out the people who you know personally, group em into their Jupiter sign groups, and compare and contrast.
Ask yourself,
*Is this Scorpio Jupiter group enigmatic and do they make no apologies for it? (Jupiter's fervent self-belief.)
*Is this Libra Jupiter group willing to compromise not as necessity but as a means of knowing that they will always personally benefit from doing so? (Jupiter knows that it will receive personal rewards on some level for its actions.)
*Is this Sagittarius Jupiter group willing to outdo themselves at every turn regardless of how others perceive their actions? (This is one group who will turn their Jupiter into a force to be reckoned with, they are often 'characters' in some way.)
*Is this Aquarius Jupiter group fully willing to carve their own path, not caring for what society expects of them based on their station in life? (Aquarius often rebels, Jupiter encourages full expression of the sign in which it is placed.)
*Is this Pisces Jupiter group willing to put their vulnerability on display as a fair price for creating their own beautiful idyllic landscape? (Jupiter as a planet is nothing if not a visionary, unconcerned with personal costs to the self, only with what it can gain, only with the areas that it can expand into.)

Try it for yourself and see. Jupiter does not go into details (unless we're speaking of Virgo Jupiters, in which case, you'll have to learn to steel yourself against their blows, but then again they are often intelligent). We're talking about an abundant, optimistic, and expansive energy, something that fills a person with life and with purpose. Even Virgo Jupiter (in detriment) wants to take their knowledge and apply it to solving tricky problems on a large scale.

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posted December 23, 2011 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Do research and come back and tell me

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posted December 23, 2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux RÍve:
I don't know how exactly Jupiter works with the outer planets but it definitely "expands" the inner ones.

Jupiter with the outer planets concerns itself with how groups in society operate, as well as any group that the individual would be affiliated with in their own life. Jupiter in aspect to an outer planet thinks not of itself (when they are not in a group set-up), but of issues on a world scale, big ideas (and big problems) that effect the masses. It is one marker for being politically-minded, and/or for being personally involved in movements in one's community that might have a ripple effect on others through its actions.

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posted December 23, 2011 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do research and come back and tell me

:: smile :: You can blame my INTJ orientation for that, if you like

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posted December 23, 2011 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Do research and come back and tell me


:: smile :: You can blame my INTJ orientation for that, if you like [/B][/QUOTE]


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posted December 23, 2011 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about jupiter in cap?

i think i express my jupiter way more and it can even shadow the darker scorpy placements in my chart.

my sun and venus trine jupiter.

found this and it has movies of jupiter in cap years. cool!

ooh no wonder i loved the unbearable lightness of being with daniel day lewis. tho they might mean the kundera book.
http://www.guidingstar.com/JupiterInCap.html

i only have a minor jupiter-uranus aspect..

Jupiter semi-sextile Uranus

When there is a party, social gathering, or you just get in the mood, you can be very upbeat and funny. You often take an optimistic view of things and this draws good opportunities to you.

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posted December 24, 2011 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Capricorn Jupiters are natural administrators, they like to direct operations on a large scale. They have great instinct for what should stay and what has to go, who to include and who is not up to snuff for their larger goal/purpose. They like to be informed whenever there is something that could potentially cause a collapse of what they have built, because they don't want to hear that anything is threatening their empire as it were. I notice you're much into fashionable things, the head honcho at Vogue, Anna Wintour, has Jupiter in Capricorn in addition to her Scorpio Sun. She's a prime example of that Jupiter, quite focused and interested in how disparate parts relate to improve the greater whole. Capricorn Jupiters are happy to hold the reins and are generally responsible and well-informed in their respective industries. They can come across as somewhat preppy/stuffy, they can take the responsible image a bit too far, but they are very happy with being their own success stories, and when they like you they will encourage you on to greater responsibilities in your own life, they will take pride in your accomplishments and see them as reasons for celebration. If you down play the importance that their work has for them, then you're looked on with a kind of disdain, they might think that that is evidence that you are a slacker because 'why would anyone try to trample on another's success.'

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posted December 24, 2011 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't Jupiter kind of a lucky charm? Whatever house it's in, you'll receive a lot from it i.e. Jupiter in the 2nd, lots of luck with money. Unless it's afflicted, then you'll get a lot of ******** in whatever house it's in.

It's also an amplifier. Kicks things up a notch... or 10. So if it's Uranus conj Jupiter, you can expect to be super quirky.

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posted December 24, 2011 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello,

n.Jupiter conjuncts my Sun and ASC. Definitely bite of way more than I can chew. I always assume I can do so many more things than is really possible. I do have a tendency to over-estimate my skills. As for the ego... Uuhh... Hate to admit it, but yup. It's there all right!

It gives me a cartoon kind of optimism. Meaning, I can get slammed by an anvil on my head, then pop right back up again later.

Guess the biggest issue is wanting to do everything. A Virgo friend told me I want to do too much. I don't want to pick something and stick with it, I want to do it ALL!


I have exact conj Jupiter/Venus conj Sun (2 degree orb) in Leo. I def understand the Ego part! But I have worked hard to try and make it a happy healthy Ego I could live with. I work hard on trying to live life from & do everything from a place of love over self/ego now, still forget at times. Feels like it took me longer then most to 'grow up'.

Also, have the same thing of wanting to do everything and make my projects way more involved then they need to be in order to work. I am constantly reminding myself to make things as efficient as possible.

This thread is funny thou, because just this week i told my therapist that I felt I was born for greatness and that my ambition isn't about reaching the top of the corporate ladder, I want to own the corporate world, and the problem is I also feel just as strongly about wanting to use my skills to expand & raise money for non-profits that help humanity at the same time. Guess now I see where its coming from, from an astrological perspective. Always kinda wondered how it affected me

The other thing, is that I somehow feel a sense of 'luck'. Not in the lottery winning kind, but that I am def looked out for when I really need it. An ex once told me it wasn't fair how things just seem to land in my lap at just the right time. Maybe its Jupiter or maybe its just my faith that no matter what, things are going to work out just as they should.

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posted December 24, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have exact conj Jupiter/Venus conj Sun (2 degree orb) in Leo. I def understand the Ego part! But I have worked hard to try and make it a happy healthy Ego I could live with. I work hard on trying to live life from & do everything from a place of love over self/ego now, still forget at times. Feels like it took me longer then most to 'grow up'.

The other thing, is that I somehow feel a sense of 'luck'. Not in the lottery winning kind, but that I am def looked out for when I really need it. An ex once told me it wasn't fair how things just seem to land in my lap at just the right time. Maybe its Jupiter or maybe its just my faith that no matter what, things are going to work out just as they should.


Oh, I totally get the whole thing about feeling like only now you're "growing up." Yeah, I'm in my late 40's, and I feel now that I'm starting to get the hang of it! Maybe it's Sun in the 12th. Late bloomer, for sure! Yeah, I'm struggling big-time with my ego. I have found that Taurus is in fact a way bigger egotist than Aries! Trying to clamp down on both my Taurus AND Aries has been a real high-wire act.

Yes, oh, the "luck" thing. Wow, when I really look at my life, I can see where I'm super-lucky compared to others. On the other hand, I've had things happen to me that no one should have happen to them. I'm torn on that one. I guess on the day-to-day living thing, I'm all right. Definitely NOT independently wealthy, but I'm not destitute--yet! <knock on wood!> It isn't fun though, and a *little* more luck sure would come in handy.

Interesting to see here what's going to transpire with Jupiter about to go direct. It's planted on top of my n.Jupiter right now. Wonder how it's going to manifest once it really starts to take off, and goes through my 1st House. I heard something on a podcast that the Sun/Moon midpoint is particularly sensitive, and that lands at 19 degrees Taurus in my 1st House. Interested to see what that day brings. If anything.

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posted December 24, 2011 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ Capricorn Jupiters are natural administrators, they like to direct operations on a large scale. [b]They have great instinct for what should stay and what has to go, who to include and who is not up to snuff for their larger goal/purpose. They like to be informed whenever there is something that could potentially cause a collapse of what they have built, because they don't want to hear that anything is threatening their empire as it were. I notice you're much into fashionable things, the head honcho at Vogue, Anna Wintour, has Jupiter in Capricorn in addition to her Scorpio Sun. She's a prime example of that Jupiter, quite focused and interested in how disparate parts relate to improve the greater whole. Capricorn Jupiters are happy to hold the reins and are generally responsible and well-informed in their respective industries. They can come across as somewhat preppy/stuffy, they can take the responsible image a bit too far, but they are very happy with being their own success stories, and when they like you they will encourage you on to greater responsibilities in your own life, they will take pride in your accomplishments and see them as reasons for celebration. If you down play the importance that their work has for them, then you're looked on with a kind of disdain, they might think that that is evidence that you are a slacker because 'why would anyone try to trample on another's success.'[/B]

so true the not up to snuff part kinda makes me feel bad tho sometimes when it includes people.

ooh didn't know anna was a jupiter in cappy. i think her personality is kinda hawt actually lol!

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Hmm...I've been here for like, ever, but I guess I don't learn well 'cause I dunno how to "pick up" on or isolate energies/planets.

But uh, I have Jupiter in the Third. Normally, my social life is through the roof. I'm a big extravert, I'm outgoing, talkative, I make friends wherever I go...Maybe my Mars in Eleventh plays into that? I'm driven to socialize and make connections wherever I find myself.

That is until recently that I decided to vanish from the public eye. ;D

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*Is this Scorpio Jupiter group enigmatic and do they make no apologies for it? (Jupiter's fervent self-belief.)

Uh, I think I can enigmatic sometimes. I definitely do things that others find confusing.

And I for real will never say sorry unless I actually mean it for once. Never! Ever!

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posted December 26, 2011 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how wouls jupiter conjunct sun be in effect in one's natal?

and how would jupiter (male) affect venus (female) in syanstry?

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