posted December 24, 2011 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
How did they know when he was born?
It kinda amazes me how they find a lot of birth times for celebrities.
He was born on the same day as my aunt.........

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posted December 24, 2011 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Personally I'm not very religious. So excuse my lack of knowledge.
I found this quite interesting. I tried finding information about the anti christ. How did they know when he was born?
It kinda amazes me how they find a lot of birth times for celebrities.
He was born on the same day as my aunt.........

http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/8fg6N6R582Q2.htm

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LOL when I saw this all I could think of was this:

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BoardMemberX: "He is clearly not the Anti-Christ, his ___ isn't opposite his ____. There are no conjunctions. The grand trine, bucket and stellium aren't there.

Where is the kite? An Anti-Christ MUST have a kite and a grand cross. The grand cross would only be for a bit of astrological and cosmological irony, the universe is clever, so it has to be there! NOW!

I even ran a synastry chart between the two of us--nothing. Only indicators and aspects suggesting that this is not 'my' Anti-Christ. How can it not be my Anti-Christ but be the Anti-Christ for the world? A near Anti-Christ, but not the real thing.

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posted December 24, 2011 08:10 AM            

I even ran a synastry chart between the two of us--nothing. Only indicators and aspects suggesting that this is not 'my' Anti-Christ. How can it not be my Anti-Christ but be the Anti-Christ for the world? A near Anti-Christ, but not the real thing.

posted December 24, 2011 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
BoardMemberX: "He is clearly not the Anti-Christ, his ___ isn't opposite his ____. There are no conjunctions. The grand trine, bucket and stellium aren't there.
Where is the kite? An Anti-Christ MUST have a kite and a grand cross. The grand cross would only be for a bit of astrological and cosmological irony, the universe is clever, so it has to be there! NOW!

I even ran a synastry chart between the two of us--nothing. Only indicators and aspects suggesting that this is not 'my' Anti-Christ. How can it not be my Anti-Christ but be the Anti-Christ for the world? A near Anti-Christ, but not the real thing.

I literally started laughing. Where is this post anyways?

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It isn't a real post (not yet anyway). My mind just started creating a scene of how this thread would evolve and progress over the day! 'BoardMemberX' is just one of the characters in that scene.

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LOLOL! Haha!

posted December 24, 2011 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:

It isn't a real post (not yet anyway). My mind just started creating a scene of how this thread would evolve and progress over the day! 'BoardMemberX' is just one of the characters in that scene.

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LOLOL! Haha!

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posted December 24, 2011 12:54 PM            

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posted December 24, 2011 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I remember thinking "wow, I have better synastry with the anti christ than Jesus!"

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Well, you know thinking about it...I mean theoretically speaking, wouldn't one expect the Anti-Christ to have the most compelling synastry with you/us? As a charming, charismatic and compelling figure here to lead one astray, it would seem natural that there would be a lot of 'good' synastry aspects, no? I mean, one can imagine a heavy amount of Neptunian dreaming and delusion in such a relationship, in theory. Would you 'really' be seeing the Anti-Christ for who this person is? It would seem more likely that you would have aspects that would lead to you going in that direction.

On the contrast, I think synastry with Jesus would be more challenging, no? It would be the relationship you would have to work for and the one that would challenge you. Back and forth, round and round. While I think there would be some softening aspects, it would be a lot of push and pull and the synastry might in astrological terms exemplify the relationship many people have with 'religious institutions.' A constant push and pull, love/hate...etc. This thought seems natural because the religious and, or spiritual side of the self is that many feel must be cultivated.

This is just a fascinating thought, to me. Comparing the synastry between the two figures and thinking of the broader implications for religion and society. Then again, everything has been fascinating to me lately, admittedly! Lol!

posted December 24, 2011 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:

It isn't a real post (not yet anyway). My mind just started creating a scene of how this thread would evolve and progress over the day! 'BoardMemberX' is just one of the characters in that scene.

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LOLOL! Haha!

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You've got your astro boards mixed up - I've never seen that type of s**t happen here or even at Astrodienst, only at AstrologyWeekly.

That nonsense aside, the Anti-christ birthchart thing makes me do the blank stare because I'm like, "How do you KNOW this particular person is the anti-christ?" If anything people probably won't be able to say for sure that it was them long after the whole situation is over and done with.

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It would be the relationship you would have to work for and the one that would challenge you.

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...When's the last time you actually read the Bible? The only people who found Jesus threatening or challenging were the people in power, the establishment. Everyone else who actually came into direct contact with him immediately took to him in a positive sense and some outright adored him. So it's actually more likely that he'd have a chart that had really good synastry with most people, except those in power, who would see him as really out-there and rebellious and threatening and a nuisance and want to do everything they could to discredit or silence him.

posted December 24, 2011 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

...When's the last time you actually read the Bible? The only people who found Jesus threatening or challenging were the people in power, the establishment. Everyone else who actually came into direct contact with him immediately took to him in a positive sense and some outright adored him. So it's actually more likely that he'd have a chart that had really good synastry with most people, except those in power, who would see him as really out-there and rebellious and threatening and a nuisance and want to do everything they could to discredit or silence him.

I'm thinking that the actual synastry between the public and the anti-christ would be negative in nature, which if you think about it makes sense since they want to harm and enslave everyone else. But he or she will get their hooks in anyway at first because they know how to play on the emotions of the public at large and play with their heads...which is why I wouldn't be surprised if the anti-christ has a water-heavy chart - because if you're intuitive and know what makes people tick...you can either use that for the highest motives or the lowest. So they'll use their spidey-sense and ability to read people to present themselves as what people want, and then continue to use that ability to kind of play with their heads and tell them what to believe. And people are going to go along with it for awhile because this person's ability to sway people will be that strong.

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LOL @ you. BelligerentPygmy, it is obvious I was being mildly humorous with how the conversation would transpire here. I've made similar remarks before on other threads and people have gotten EXACTLY what I was saying, no harm intended. Simply exaggerating the manner in which we sometimes try to prove and, or disprove things astrologically either on the board or in our heads. I mean, in this case I was referencing the Twin Flame thread, and some of the conversations DID in fact turn into that sort of dialogue. And I laughed at it there and will continue to laugh at it anywhere else.

And also, even the OP knows this chart isn't real. REAL as in the 'actual' Anti-Christ! It is more like, "if it was the Anti-Christ, how interesting that x,y,z...etc." I don't think anyone is taking it seriously.

But also, there are very easy ways to express 'strong' opinions, ideologies and philosophies without creating the least bit of condescension. I don't think you've consciously done this, but it is 'marked.' "When's the last time you actually read the Bible [afterthought: 'because you haven't in a while' or 'because I have, and I have understood it' ]."

Why even open a retort in that fashion unless you are [un]consciously trying to setup an distorted dynamic in the dialogue? Oftentimes, in everday life I hear complaints about people being 'closeminded' and they have often engaged in discussions with people in the EXACT way you've done. That isn't to say all people who are closeminded are closeminded because of this, but it certainly doesn't encourage expansive thinking. Idk, it is just a method of argumentation and dynamic that I don't find effective, and grow weary of people who find it necessary to constantly debate or have intellectual discussions in this way.

And for the record, I never said Jesus was threatening. I never said Jesus was challenging. What I stated and indirectly implied was that the relationship would be challenging. As in, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" highlighting human imperfections and desire to attain that oneness.

Some people (you know, us mere mortals) have a tough time living up to 'spiritual aspirations' regardless of what religion. In this case, I was referring to 'Jesus' as the figurehead of Christianity/Christendom, implying that perhaps one's synastry aspects and relationship with 'Christ' might reflect the tensions a person might experience in their own spiritual walk via Christianity--just expressed in astrological terms. That, perhaps the synastry aspects would reflect the tensions some experience. I wasn't EVEN revering to the historicity of Christ, as that is more of a theological and perhaps a sociocultural discussion. I was talking about a relationship with Christ, which is something altogether different and may or may not relate to those who have a relationship with Christ. I've know some people who have relationships with religion and ritual, and the text and find trouble in integrating the principles in real ways of relationing to others via the example (Jesus Christ in this case).

...The main point, is that it is just discussion! Scenarios! Thought! Pondering! Pontificating! Hypothetical! Philosophical! Lol! Gah! Light-hearted discussion. Not deep, dark, brooding, soul searching, darknight of the wandering soul! I save that for my quiet reflections.

posted December 24, 2011 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
BRAVA!!!! BRAVA!!!!!!!

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Bows! Thank you, thank you!

posted December 26, 2011 05:13 PM            

"Jeanne Dixon wrote for him this date and time...."

This is the key. She took this seriously, but if you read up well on Jeanne Dixon you'll see her credibility is lacking for such 'prophecies.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Dixon#Career_as_a_psychic

Jeanne Dixon was a mediocre astrologer at best who got more recognition than she really deserved.

The identification of such an individual (if they were real) would only have meaning to those who are essentially Christian and believe it is important to identify them so as not to follow them - in other words, Christians too susceptible to fear to remain Love-focused. It most appeals to the fearful and paranoid, but does make good funnies for the rest of us.

posted December 26, 2011 05:25 PM            

it could possibly be the birth of the antichrist :P

i made a chart for that day XD (note: this should be taken seriously in any way... i do strange thing when im tired XD)

posted March 30, 2017 08:19 PM            

Oh, but maybe Pisces can represent a Jesus Christ archetype that is trying to bring peace and spiritual enlightment upon everyone. Pisces equals= a selfless pacifist, like Jesus. It comes right after Aquarius, so it could represent the New Age of Jesus? So that can explain why a lot of Aquarius in that particular chart would make the person appear as the anti-Christ, maybe. It would probably be seen in a symbolic light and does not necessarily mean the person is evil because I personally don't think Aquarius is a bad sign at all, but the symbolic representation makes sense. Oh, but don't the Ages work in reverse, as in our current era is in the Age of Pisces and progressing slowly into Aquarius? So the Piscean Age is seen as the "Age of Deception" while the Aquarian Age is where ancient knowledge that was once previously hidden is now revealed. I'm probably just overthinking this and confusing myself now.

posted April 01, 2017 04:21 PM            

I think to determine the antichrist you would have a better idea of looking at the chart of Hitler.

posted April 27, 2017 05:24 PM            

I feel bad for your aunt if she was
aware of that, in some communities it
might have been a stigma?

Astro.com has it too:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Anti-Christ

I really only agree with her in part. I believe the Aqu rising makes sense due to it being the least common rising sign (criteria based research I've read). Plus we are in the Age of Aquarius after all. Maybe a Mars Aqu placed in the 12H. As far as Air qualities are concerned, I would think Gemini/Mercury would be more prominent with the other Air placements. I think of his/hers 5th Earth. As it just makes sense as people also use the terminology 'Devil's playground'.
I doubt Virgo, even though that is Mercurial.
I believe the balance of energies might be lack in water. Heavy in Sag and/or Aries.