posted January 03, 2012 02:28 AM            

As far as friendships go, I am extremely loyal to my friends, have quite high standards for them, and am highly selective. I am friendly to all though and will make aquaintences with most anyone. With friends I have the best time with extroverts and anyone that helps me get out of my shell, when I am with them I want to get up, MOVE and do stuff active, stimulating, and fun! That's what friends are for, right? It's extremely hard for me to truly emotionally open up to friends. I have managed with a few, but it is a work in progress.

posted January 03, 2012 03:39 AM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
My 11th is empty, but leo is on the cusp. Leo energy has very little impact on me at all in my own chart.

As far as friendships go, I am extremely loyal to my friends, have quite high standards for them, and am highly selective. I am friendly to all though and will make aquaintences with most anyone. With friends I have the best time with extroverts and anyone that helps me get out of my shell, when I am with them I want to get up, MOVE and do stuff active, stimulating, and fun! That's what friends are for, right? It's extremely hard for me to truly emotionally open up to friends. I have managed with a few, but it is a work in progress.

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Do you feel like you make far more acquaintances than actual friends? I ask because we have fairly similar charts and the same rising sign. I often find that I am so selective that I really don't really feel the need to get close to just anyone. However, without sounding conceited, people tend to really like me when we first meet. I'm not judgmental or pompous, so people feel comfortable around me. It isn't until I turn down invitations or disappear that people find my behavior off-putting. I'm assuming they think I'm a snob or that I think I'm too good for them... which is maybe half true... I just don't find a lot of people friend-worthy. :\ Especially in LA!

posted January 03, 2012 04:45 AM            

Also, with a Mercury in Scorpio, my humour tends to have a dry, sarcastic edge to it that feel I've grown into more as I have progressed from teenage to adulthood. Another thing with the ruler of 11th in the 3rd is that I have met and reconnected with a lot of friends over the internet. Some of my most valuable friends are people I have never met in real life. Also, even my random conversations revolve around the causes, topics, interests that are close to my heart. I cannot sustain even a few words in something I do not have any interest in. That must be the Mercury in Scorpio

posted January 03, 2012 05:11 AM            

I have got 0 Degree Pluto in Scorpio and Saturn in Scorpio at 9 Degree.

Honestly I care for my friends far too much. I try to keep in touch with them regularly. I give them space. I give gifts to my friends.
However for some odd reason most people would be saying " Have Fun !" " Enjoy !"...I somehow not sure how to take it. I am having fun.

I travel around quiet a lot so most people I meet I have to leave them physically. Story of my life and people who stick are kind of far away. Some of my friends are my grandparents age but that's got to do with Saturn there.

I make friends very easily however as I am getting older I do crave people near me who would stay in the same place.

I am always unsure about do I have enough friends and sometimes really question if there are any. I guess I am still looking for real life long friends.

I wish sometimes I could do more for them and they could do more for me.

I hope anyone has more details on pluto in 11 th as I am having at the moment transisting Saturn conjunct Natal Pluto.

posted January 03, 2012 05:45 AM              

But I also have impossibly high standards when it comes to who I consider a friend.

Edit: I know someone who has Moon in her 11th, the apex of a tight T-square between Neptune in 2nd and Mars in the 8th. She is emotionally dependent on her friends and also ends up being their shoulder to cry on. Her friends seem to be very troubled. They're either broke or knocked up without means of financial support or clinically depressed....

posted January 03, 2012 05:31 PM            

But this:

"Cancer
The influence of Cancer here suggests social activities are limited to an informal style normally conducted within the home. Favorite comrades are often pets, to which you may become very attached. Pets are appreciated because they never resent your tendency to criticize. You are never much of a joiner, but you can work very diligently within organizations promoting the welfare of children, animals, or the underprivileged. Friendships are never taken lightly by this emotional and feeling placement. So, there is a very discriminating attitude toward selecting those to whom you become close. To those close friends that are developed, you have a very protective and nurturing relationship."

is not me.

I also have Chiron, Jupiter and Moon there.

The Moon in 11th description is dead on though:

"Moon in the 11th House

All these needs and feelings are most likely to be met through friends, clubs, social movements, or the nurturing of some ideal. All these matters will go through phases, causing your goals and allegiances to fluctuate. Overall, you manage to keep your emotional life fairly light and breezy.

You prefer not to get morbid and heavy in one-to-one relationships and, if things get that way, you will go out with friends or to somewhere impersonal. This can be a good safety valve, but a bad habit if you make your friends or associations into an emotional crutch. It is wise to take a break from them every so often in order to re-establish your own identity, not to mention facing any more intimate emotional commitments.

posted January 04, 2012 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Do you feel like you make far more acquaintances than actual friends? I ask because we have fairly similar charts and the same rising sign. I often find that I am so selective that I really don't really feel the need to get close to just anyone. However, without sounding conceited, people tend to really like me when we first meet. I'm not judgmental or pompous, so people feel comfortable around me. It isn't until I turn down invitations or disappear that people find my behavior off-putting. I'm assuming they think I'm a snob or that I think I'm too good for them... which is maybe half true... I just don't find a lot of people friend-worthy. :\ Especially in LA!

I often look at groups of girls who are super close BFFs, and I cannot relate at all. There are very few people that I feel I would call to hang out with, and I don't do well in groups. I move to the beat of my own drum and don't give two ***** about status quo. So I often find myself with the same three people when I go out, which is fine with me. How about you?

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There are some differences, but that does sound quite a bit like me! I have the ability to make friends very easily, and I can "charm" most anyone. People also do tend to warm up to me fast. However, I do put off an "odd" vibe if I am not talking and people won't always approach me (there is a certain kind of person that will though, 1/2 of them usually become close friends). When I am speaking or interacting I am much more often approached. I never really get called snobby, but I can "burn" people if I write them off, and I am not proud of that.

I can count my number of close friends on one hand, and I to generally prefer to hang out with the same people. I like that one on one connection.

posted January 05, 2012 10:27 AM            

My friends are like my family. And I treat my family member like friends. I care way too much, and I like to say yes and please all my friends. If anything, I spread myself too thin when caring for others, which ends with my resenting my friendships. There are those "dark days" where I feel like no one really cares about me, but in reality, it's that I think I care too much about others. Another issue w/this placement is that I've always looked for friendships over romantic relationships, so it's hard to adjust my "friendly" ways when dating. I do best when I start out as friends, or if there is a platonic energy to the relationship.

posted January 05, 2012 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
wild places, i have sun, merc and mars in aquarius too as well as moon in the 4th and i resonate with almost everything you say!

although for me, my 11th cusp is scorpio, with uranus ever-so-close to being inside it (on the deg of cusp, but in the 10th). apparently i am a huge *catalyst* for friends and it's true. i also attract a weird assortment of strange people i consider friends. for eg, certain hobos around town and some people who are half crazy, i feel closer to than people i probably "should". BUT i am also extremely independent and at this point in my life don't have a lot of time to put into my friendships (although if i could, wild place's set up sounds just about right! as long as i could get plenty of alone time when needed), and people seem to get hurt/confused by my absense, which is more absent-mindedness and being a busy single mom than anything. but i am extremely loyal in friendship and don't let my guard down completely but to few, and they mean a LOT to me.

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wild places/woah cakes -- aqua sun (11th)/venus(12th) and i completely identify w/both your descriptions.

especially the "absentmindedness" over abscence. i get a lot of complaints that i never return calls or pick up my phone or return texts, but it's always b/c i forget to listen to the message or i just glance over it. ah my friends could write a list of grievances about it.

my friends also joke that i'm a "magnet for the crazies" because strangers tend to open up to me immediately. when i was in NYC, i'd frequent an Irish pub near my apartment and the characters and stories I've heard over a pint of Guiness would amaze some. a famous actors just sat down & told me his secrets one day... i wasn't the least bit phased. i guess i'm just that sort of person. children & animals are also attracted to me for some odd reason, i get called the dog whisperer.

how funny, that aqua placement never gets boring.

posted January 05, 2012 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Gemini H11
11th & how I treat my friends?
I'm not the best with constant contact, as in some people wanna be on the phone/skype every day, that sorta freaks me out, I need more space than that. Doesn't fit since Gem is supposed to want to be on the phone all hrs of the day. I say I'll call/e-mail then I might, might not. I get busy w.other things. Out of sight out of mind. I fig new people are always in my life & people are always changing so w.friendships I don't really bank on em. Maybe that sounds Gem, maybe not.
Friends for me relates more to my Venus sign/aspects & my H7.

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That is an amazingly concurrent picture with my own behaviour but my aloofness and need to recharge myself comes from the Scorpio stellium around the IC.

posted January 05, 2012 04:21 PM            

I concur with this. I have venus in aqua in the 11th house -but cappy on the cusp. I tend to always end up with older female friends with supressed overambitious capricorn tendencies. I attract friends who end up being radically distant due to frustration in their work and social statuses. I swing between isolation and being very social (Pisces sun in 12th on the cusp of the first/aries). I usually experiences problems with my friends when I 'come out' of my shell and want to connect with the world. My jupiter conjunct my rising and my sun makes it really easy to garner attention and acquaintences when I want to. This always ends up conflicting with my aquarian/capricorn-esque aspects of my friends when it happens because it usually gives me instant success socially and business-wise (cap Midheaven) -without the shallowness and corporate backstabbing that they've displayed. In turn, I feel I see my friend's 'true' colors and so I pisces-swim away. It has been difficult so far for me to find friends for the long haul that understand that being genuine and open-minded is a much better way to deal with people and life rather than possessive ladder climbing. I also experience my friends being too distant for comfort for me. It makes me conflicted because I understand isolation (my sun), independence (aries rising/north node), and privacy(scorp moon) but I still feel that -after intense beginnings in my friendships- they then fade out to these very distant relationships.. if I haven't swam away that is.

posted January 05, 2012 04:33 PM            

I am in love with you!! I have 4th and 5th houses in cancer and I can tell when I like/love/am fond of someone because I will start cooking and baking and feeding them! I actually have the nickname of Gypsy and yet my home is my safe haven! When I decorate my home I always have in the back of my mind what my friends will be comfortable with too. My friends laugh at me because I have soo many sets of dishes and I am just a single college student living by herself.

It also hurts me extremely bad if I have a friend who doesn't like to go over to other people's homes much. It is like an entire deep part of my friendship that I cannot express if my friends don't let me care for them at my home.(I'm even known to make fancy oil and herbal baths for my friends when they've had a hard time!)I also will travel hell and high water if my friends invite me over. I take it as such a sweet honor and I will walk and take the bus and the subway for hours to reach them. So if I have friends who consistently say they 'don't have time' or 'are too busy' I have a hard time relating and get despondent (I am able to make room for friends always -even when I was working 50+ hours and going to school fulltime!)