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Topic: How Do You Determine Chart Dominator
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L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
From: Midgard
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 07:02 PM
  
Like i hear a lot about this chart is heavily influenced by this and that, but how do you tell? For example, I know if your asc. is aries then yur chart ruler is mars, but it doesn't make yu mars dominant right? So how do I find out what planets or sign, whichever, I'm heavily influenced by?------------------
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VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
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posted December 27, 2011 07:07 PM
There is Pullen Astrology option on astro.com,it is interesting.
You can find final dispositor,as well.
Or,you can begin with chart ruler and compare the work its has been doing-how connected it is to the rest of chart,number of aspects,nature of aspects.IP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
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posted December 27, 2011 07:08 PM
oh...that sounds difficult D:!IP: Logged |
maira
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posted December 27, 2011 07:10 PM
You can generally tell by just looking at the chart - your problem reminds me of my attempts to cook  They always say "add the salt" or "bake until done", yes, but how do you know, lol. There is a more accurate method. Go to astro.com, select Pullen/Astrolog and from the drop down list - the sign/house dispositor graph (this to get a sense of which planets is or are stronger) and simple chart delineation for the exact percentages. I don't know what method is used in the second one. The first one uses dispositors (just like what you said, but further - Mars in Cancer for example is disposited by Moon in Virg, which is disposited by Mercury and so on). IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
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posted December 27, 2011 07:10 PM
It you post your planets' positions I can work out for you final dispositor for you. IP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
From: Midgard
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posted December 27, 2011 07:13 PM
phew okay ill leave it to the pros  oh and im still gonna 'try' on astro :] IP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
From: Midgard
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posted December 27, 2011 07:18 PM
omg wth is this!? i did that pullen thing but it looks like a big puzzle. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
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posted December 27, 2011 07:19 PM
Saturn and Pluto,as final dispositors.
Saturn is stronger.
Jupiter is also prominent.IP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
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posted December 27, 2011 07:20 PM
so a dispositor is like the main ruler of things the one pulling all the strings?wait so all in all what does all that mean? saturn/pluto/jup being dispositors etc... IP: Logged |
maira
Knowflake Posts: 1026
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posted December 27, 2011 07:23 PM
Your Cap stellium is disposited by Saturn in Cap. I think it's the strongest element in your chart along with Pluto which disposits moon. So you could say that you are earth - water - air, more specifically Cap-Scorp-Libra.Jupiter is another planet which is strong in your chart, since it's so elevated (conjunct the MC) and is "out there" for people (public, community) to see. To give a cliche, you could become known in your community for your ideas or your generosity (food comes to mind when speaking about Cancer, maybe some charity which gives food to people in need). IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 27, 2011 07:23 PM
Final dispositor is like prevailing influence,but not stings puller,chart ruler is the one with reigns.
Eta- something like boss behind the sceneIP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
From: Midgard
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posted December 27, 2011 07:26 PM
ahhhh okay i sorta see now thank yu very much guys ^_^
maybe with my new frying pan i'll be able to dazzle everyone with food :PIP: Logged |
maira
Knowflake Posts: 1026
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posted December 27, 2011 07:31 PM
No problem. I learned how to "cook" a chart and you can too, because if I can, everyone can
To this day, I feel proud of myself when my astro thoughts match someone who's opinion I value (like Venus). There was so much information that I thought I will never master it and I guess the insecurity is still there.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
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posted December 27, 2011 07:36 PM
Maira 
Don't feed Leo with compliments IP: Logged |
maira
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posted December 27, 2011 07:41 PM
... Aries expressed honest opinion  IP: Logged |
Chironrising
Knowflake Posts: 590
From: Chicago, IL, USA
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posted December 27, 2011 07:55 PM
for everyone born with pluto in scorpio...their chart dominators are pluto....just saving you some time...ultimately, pluto will be one of or your only final dispositor...by house and by sign.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
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posted December 27, 2011 07:56 PM
Her Mars,Jupiter,Moon are disposited by Pluto.
Mars>Jupiter>Moon>Pluto.IP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
From: Midgard
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posted December 27, 2011 07:57 PM
D:! pluto? so then if we are all the same with pluto dispositor then does dispositor not matter?IP: Logged |
tautomer4314
Knowflake Posts: 659
From: Oregon
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 08:11 PM
I don't understand what this means. I need a key or a list of what each things means. I assume things that lead to the end arrows are "in charge"? This is mine ------------------
It's All Elemental
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Doux Rêve
Moderator Posts: 2164
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posted December 27, 2011 08:11 PM
I disagree.I don't think Pluto has a major influence on everyone. It really depends on the chart. Some people are far more Plutonian than others, even among those born with Pluto in Scorpio. Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
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posted December 27, 2011 08:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I don't understand what this means. I need a key or a list of what each things means. I assume things that lead to the end arrows are "in charge"? This is mine
Yes,Mercury.
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Chironrising
Knowflake Posts: 590
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 08:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I disagree.I don't think Pluto has a major influence on everyone. It really depends on the chart. Some people are far more Plutonian than others, even among those born with Pluto in Scorpio. Just my opinion.
I would disagree too...but the rules of dispositors say that the the final dispositor is in the sign of his dignity...so pluto is always going to be one of the final dispositors in a chart, and if there are no planets in their house or sign, then he will be the only one...this is marked by the rise in personality disorders...which pluto rules...
schizoid
autism
asbergers
etc....all these names and labels for plutonian personality types which have no place in society...i.e...pluto is no longer a planet.....hence this song...for my generation...and the fact that babybloomers are subconciously supressing us...this song isn't the only song argeuing to bring black pluto...there are 1,000's if one pays attention to the subconcious symbolisms... http://youtu.be/ZG8bD28Ek84
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Doux Rêve
Moderator Posts: 2164
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posted December 27, 2011 08:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chironrising:
I would disagree too...but the rules of dispositors say that the the final dispositor is in the sign of his dignity...so pluto is always going to be one of the final dispositors in a chart, and if there are no planets in their house or sign, then he will be the only one...
I see. That's right.
But even then, in some charts personal planets will be desposited by Pluto, whereas in other charts Pluto will only remain a final despositor by itself, not a despositor of any personal planets. So naturally charts that have personal planets desposited by Pluto will be more Plutonian than those whose planets are not desposited by Pluto.
Either way Pluto will indeed be one of the final despositors, if not the only one. That's true. IP: Logged |
Fondue Knight
Knowflake Posts: 819
From: NY
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 28, 2011 12:40 AM
My dispositors are all over the place.  IP: Logged |
L0veLess
Knowflake Posts: 1293
From: Midgard
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted December 28, 2011 12:51 AM
ooo so i'd say my most dominant dispositor is saturn because its in cap and like they said it was ruling my stellium there and pluto is mostly affecting my moon. hm this dispositor stuff takes a lot of thinking @_@IP: Logged |
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